Proposition 23

[BigGovernmentIsGood]

[quote=CA renter]

Allan,

Yes, you’re absolutely right about the need to evaluate the true costs and benefits of any environmental regulation/policy. Econ Prof made good points WRT diminishing returns, and I really can’t disagree with anything s/he has said. Still, I just wanted to point out that the “benefits” might not be economic — it still might be worth it (or not).[/quote]

Don’t fall for the same ‘sky will fall’ BS that big business has been using forever. Here’s what GM had to say in the 1970’s regarding catalytic converters:

However, the Auto Alliance’s protest seems very familiar. Back in the 1970s, GM warned the EPA, “[I]f GM is forced to introduce catalytic converter systems across-the board on 1975 models, the prospect of an unreasonable risk of business catastrophe and massive difficulties with these vehicles in the hands of the public must be faced.” Catalytic converters were shortly after introduced and found to work fine, and customers continued to consume Detroit’s cars.

http://www.stopgreenwash.org/autos

SBSDD (Same BS Different Decade)

[BigGovernmentIsGood]

And here’s what Big Pollution had to say about the Clean Air Act of 1970:

Similarly, the Auto Alliance’s spiritual predecessor, the Automobile Manufacturer’s Association, discussed the proposed Clean Air Act in 1970, a government effort to regulate national pollution standards, with a certain degree of panic or deception. They claimed: “It presently appears that it will simply not be possible for vehicle manufacturers to achieve the control levels specified in the bill with any fossil fuel-burning engine-including steam, gas turbines, etc., as well as internal combustion engines.” The Clean Air Act, of course, passed and has been amended several times since then—it began the gradual improvement of America’s air quality.

http://www.stopgreenwash.org/autos

The pro-prop-23 crowd used up all their credibility in the 1970’s (assuming they ever had any in the first place).

[BigGovernmentIsGood]

And here’s what Big Pollution had to say about the Clean Air Act of 1970:

Similarly, the Auto Alliance’s spiritual predecessor, the Automobile Manufacturer’s Association, discussed the proposed Clean Air Act in 1970, a government effort to regulate national pollution standards, with a certain degree of panic or deception. They claimed: “It presently appears that it will simply not be possible for vehicle manufacturers to achieve the control levels specified in the bill with any fossil fuel-burning engine-including steam, gas turbines, etc., as well as internal combustion engines.” The Clean Air Act, of course, passed and has been amended several times since then—it began the gradual improvement of America’s air quality.

http://www.stopgreenwash.org/autos

The pro-prop-23 crowd used up all their credibility in the 1970’s (assuming they ever had any in the first place).

[BigGovernmentIsGood]

And here’s what Big Pollution had to say about the Clean Air Act of 1970:

Similarly, the Auto Alliance’s spiritual predecessor, the Automobile Manufacturer’s Association, discussed the proposed Clean Air Act in 1970, a government effort to regulate national pollution standards, with a certain degree of panic or deception. They claimed: “It presently appears that it will simply not be possible for vehicle manufacturers to achieve the control levels specified in the bill with any fossil fuel-burning engine-including steam, gas turbines, etc., as well as internal combustion engines.” The Clean Air Act, of course, passed and has been amended several times since then—it began the gradual improvement of America’s air quality.

http://www.stopgreenwash.org/autos

The pro-prop-23 crowd used up all their credibility in the 1970’s (assuming they ever had any in the first place).

[BigGovernmentIsGood]

And here’s what Big Pollution had to say about the Clean Air Act of 1970:

Similarly, the Auto Alliance’s spiritual predecessor, the Automobile Manufacturer’s Association, discussed the proposed Clean Air Act in 1970, a government effort to regulate national pollution standards, with a certain degree of panic or deception. They claimed: “It presently appears that it will simply not be possible for vehicle manufacturers to achieve the control levels specified in the bill with any fossil fuel-burning engine-including steam, gas turbines, etc., as well as internal combustion engines.” The Clean Air Act, of course, passed and has been amended several times since then—it began the gradual improvement of America’s air quality.

http://www.stopgreenwash.org/autos

The pro-prop-23 crowd used up all their credibility in the 1970’s (assuming they ever had any in the first place).

[BigGovernmentIsGood]

And here’s what Big Pollution had to say about the Clean Air Act of 1970:

Similarly, the Auto Alliance’s spiritual predecessor, the Automobile Manufacturer’s Association, discussed the proposed Clean Air Act in 1970, a government effort to regulate national pollution standards, with a certain degree of panic or deception. They claimed: “It presently appears that it will simply not be possible for vehicle manufacturers to achieve the control levels specified in the bill with any fossil fuel-burning engine-including steam, gas turbines, etc., as well as internal combustion engines.” The Clean Air Act, of course, passed and has been amended several times since then—it began the gradual improvement of America’s air quality.

http://www.stopgreenwash.org/autos

The pro-prop-23 crowd used up all their credibility in the 1970’s (assuming they ever had any in the first place).

[luchabee]

Posters have mentioned that big oil is behind this proposition. The same thing can be said for the global warming hysterics as well, who receive billions in funding:

University of California physics professor, resigning from American Physical Society:

‘Global warming is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life’

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100058265/us-physics-professor-global-warming-is-the-greatest-and-most-successful-pseudoscientific-fraud-i-have-seen-in-my-long-life/

[luchabee]

Posters have mentioned that big oil is behind this proposition. The same thing can be said for the global warming hysterics as well, who receive billions in funding:

University of California physics professor, resigning from American Physical Society:

‘Global warming is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life’

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100058265/us-physics-professor-global-warming-is-the-greatest-and-most-successful-pseudoscientific-fraud-i-have-seen-in-my-long-life/

[luchabee]

Posters have mentioned that big oil is behind this proposition. The same thing can be said for the global warming hysterics as well, who receive billions in funding:

University of California physics professor, resigning from American Physical Society:

‘Global warming is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life’

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100058265/us-physics-professor-global-warming-is-the-greatest-and-most-successful-pseudoscientific-fraud-i-have-seen-in-my-long-life/

[luchabee]

Posters have mentioned that big oil is behind this proposition. The same thing can be said for the global warming hysterics as well, who receive billions in funding:

University of California physics professor, resigning from American Physical Society:

‘Global warming is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life’

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100058265/us-physics-professor-global-warming-is-the-greatest-and-most-successful-pseudoscientific-fraud-i-have-seen-in-my-long-life/

[luchabee]

Posters have mentioned that big oil is behind this proposition. The same thing can be said for the global warming hysterics as well, who receive billions in funding:

University of California physics professor, resigning from American Physical Society:

‘Global warming is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life’

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100058265/us-physics-professor-global-warming-is-the-greatest-and-most-successful-pseudoscientific-fraud-i-have-seen-in-my-long-life/

[EmilyHicks]

My voting strategy now is voting against anything that the liberals are for.

[EmilyHicks]

My voting strategy now is voting against anything that the liberals are for.

[EmilyHicks]

My voting strategy now is voting against anything that the liberals are for.

[EmilyHicks]

My voting strategy now is voting against anything that the liberals are for.

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