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November 7, 2007 at 7:14 AM #10836November 7, 2007 at 7:24 AM #96590CoronitaParticipant
For reference…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Chin
Although, I didn't know about the Federal civil charges after the state slap on the hand… I sort of feel better now. Ok, not really.
November 7, 2007 at 7:24 AM #96653CoronitaParticipantFor reference…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Chin
Although, I didn't know about the Federal civil charges after the state slap on the hand… I sort of feel better now. Ok, not really.
November 7, 2007 at 7:24 AM #96660CoronitaParticipantFor reference…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Chin
Although, I didn't know about the Federal civil charges after the state slap on the hand… I sort of feel better now. Ok, not really.
November 7, 2007 at 7:24 AM #96667CoronitaParticipantFor reference…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Chin
Although, I didn't know about the Federal civil charges after the state slap on the hand… I sort of feel better now. Ok, not really.
November 7, 2007 at 7:58 AM #96606NotCrankyParticipantThat is just awful. You might take heart in the fact that Arabs and Muslims are not being rounded up in mass and put in internment camps at the current time as the Japanese were in WW2. I expect propaganda and backlash against any threat to U.S. agenda or supremacy but let’s hope nothing like that will ever happen again with so little justice. It is just disturbing. See Arraya’s post about monkeys in the “Love of God or money thread”.
http://www.randomhouse.com/vintage/read/snow/
That is a book you might like, also a movie.November 7, 2007 at 7:58 AM #96669NotCrankyParticipantThat is just awful. You might take heart in the fact that Arabs and Muslims are not being rounded up in mass and put in internment camps at the current time as the Japanese were in WW2. I expect propaganda and backlash against any threat to U.S. agenda or supremacy but let’s hope nothing like that will ever happen again with so little justice. It is just disturbing. See Arraya’s post about monkeys in the “Love of God or money thread”.
http://www.randomhouse.com/vintage/read/snow/
That is a book you might like, also a movie.November 7, 2007 at 7:58 AM #96677NotCrankyParticipantThat is just awful. You might take heart in the fact that Arabs and Muslims are not being rounded up in mass and put in internment camps at the current time as the Japanese were in WW2. I expect propaganda and backlash against any threat to U.S. agenda or supremacy but let’s hope nothing like that will ever happen again with so little justice. It is just disturbing. See Arraya’s post about monkeys in the “Love of God or money thread”.
http://www.randomhouse.com/vintage/read/snow/
That is a book you might like, also a movie.November 7, 2007 at 7:58 AM #96684NotCrankyParticipantThat is just awful. You might take heart in the fact that Arabs and Muslims are not being rounded up in mass and put in internment camps at the current time as the Japanese were in WW2. I expect propaganda and backlash against any threat to U.S. agenda or supremacy but let’s hope nothing like that will ever happen again with so little justice. It is just disturbing. See Arraya’s post about monkeys in the “Love of God or money thread”.
http://www.randomhouse.com/vintage/read/snow/
That is a book you might like, also a movie.November 7, 2007 at 8:05 AM #96614Allan from FallbrookParticipantRustico: While I think that internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII is a black mark on America’s reputation, you also have to put it into context: The Japanese had just attacked Pearl Harbor (with the help of Japanese spies in the Hawaiian islands), they had been running rampant in the Pacific, China and Mongolia and were potentially a threat to the west coast of the US.
You might also remember that German-Americans and Italian-Americans were also being interned, mainly members of the Bund and the Italian-American Friendship Society.
I don’t see a huge backlash against Chinese-Americans, and I would caution those that see China reprising the role of Japan, Inc. during the 1980s to please remember how that turned out for Japan.
Lastly, the biggest threat to America’s supremacy is America itself. The mess we are in at present is entirely of our own creation. Hubris, ignorance and greed have landed us in the soup and we’ll see if this generation has the sand to knuckle down and get ourselves back on track.
November 7, 2007 at 8:05 AM #96676Allan from FallbrookParticipantRustico: While I think that internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII is a black mark on America’s reputation, you also have to put it into context: The Japanese had just attacked Pearl Harbor (with the help of Japanese spies in the Hawaiian islands), they had been running rampant in the Pacific, China and Mongolia and were potentially a threat to the west coast of the US.
You might also remember that German-Americans and Italian-Americans were also being interned, mainly members of the Bund and the Italian-American Friendship Society.
I don’t see a huge backlash against Chinese-Americans, and I would caution those that see China reprising the role of Japan, Inc. during the 1980s to please remember how that turned out for Japan.
Lastly, the biggest threat to America’s supremacy is America itself. The mess we are in at present is entirely of our own creation. Hubris, ignorance and greed have landed us in the soup and we’ll see if this generation has the sand to knuckle down and get ourselves back on track.
November 7, 2007 at 8:05 AM #96683Allan from FallbrookParticipantRustico: While I think that internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII is a black mark on America’s reputation, you also have to put it into context: The Japanese had just attacked Pearl Harbor (with the help of Japanese spies in the Hawaiian islands), they had been running rampant in the Pacific, China and Mongolia and were potentially a threat to the west coast of the US.
You might also remember that German-Americans and Italian-Americans were also being interned, mainly members of the Bund and the Italian-American Friendship Society.
I don’t see a huge backlash against Chinese-Americans, and I would caution those that see China reprising the role of Japan, Inc. during the 1980s to please remember how that turned out for Japan.
Lastly, the biggest threat to America’s supremacy is America itself. The mess we are in at present is entirely of our own creation. Hubris, ignorance and greed have landed us in the soup and we’ll see if this generation has the sand to knuckle down and get ourselves back on track.
November 7, 2007 at 8:05 AM #96692Allan from FallbrookParticipantRustico: While I think that internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII is a black mark on America’s reputation, you also have to put it into context: The Japanese had just attacked Pearl Harbor (with the help of Japanese spies in the Hawaiian islands), they had been running rampant in the Pacific, China and Mongolia and were potentially a threat to the west coast of the US.
You might also remember that German-Americans and Italian-Americans were also being interned, mainly members of the Bund and the Italian-American Friendship Society.
I don’t see a huge backlash against Chinese-Americans, and I would caution those that see China reprising the role of Japan, Inc. during the 1980s to please remember how that turned out for Japan.
Lastly, the biggest threat to America’s supremacy is America itself. The mess we are in at present is entirely of our own creation. Hubris, ignorance and greed have landed us in the soup and we’ll see if this generation has the sand to knuckle down and get ourselves back on track.
November 7, 2007 at 8:45 AM #96654NotCrankyParticipantI lost my wonderful, well thought out post Allan. Anyway I have contemplated the internment issues from many angles. I have even seen essays by Japanese of the era who had the opinion that it was not completely unjustified. As you point out Japan then Vs. China now are completely different.
Anyway, FLU was more concerned of ramifications that occured circa 1980 and I don’t blame him. I don’t have confidence that the U.S.,from the upper levels of power to the blue collar guy who will go ape shit when he losses his job in the factories, is very different with regards to the tendancies you describe in your last paragraph,over the entire time frame discussed so far.I am sure we both wish it were better.
Disclaimer: editing issues due to feeding baby and having already lost a perfect work of art on the topic…Good luck reading that.
November 7, 2007 at 8:45 AM #96716NotCrankyParticipantI lost my wonderful, well thought out post Allan. Anyway I have contemplated the internment issues from many angles. I have even seen essays by Japanese of the era who had the opinion that it was not completely unjustified. As you point out Japan then Vs. China now are completely different.
Anyway, FLU was more concerned of ramifications that occured circa 1980 and I don’t blame him. I don’t have confidence that the U.S.,from the upper levels of power to the blue collar guy who will go ape shit when he losses his job in the factories, is very different with regards to the tendancies you describe in your last paragraph,over the entire time frame discussed so far.I am sure we both wish it were better.
Disclaimer: editing issues due to feeding baby and having already lost a perfect work of art on the topic…Good luck reading that.
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