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January 10, 2011 at 7:25 PM #652001January 10, 2011 at 7:31 PM #650891
Eugene
ParticipantAs always, there are Chinese mothers and there are Chinese mothers.
The kind we see here in the U.S. are very specific, highly selected, basically the tip of the iceberg.
If you were to see the ‘typical’, the ‘average’ Chinese mother, you’d be shocked and horrified.
Suffice to say that as many as 40% of kids in rural Chinese schools never graduate from MIDDLE SCHOOL. They just drop out at some point around the time when it becomes evident that they won’t make the cut on gaokaos, usually around the age of 13 or 14, and move on to work on the nearest farm.
January 10, 2011 at 7:31 PM #650962ParticipantAs always, there are Chinese mothers and there are Chinese mothers.
The kind we see here in the U.S. are very specific, highly selected, basically the tip of the iceberg.
If you were to see the ‘typical’, the ‘average’ Chinese mother, you’d be shocked and horrified.
Suffice to say that as many as 40% of kids in rural Chinese schools never graduate from MIDDLE SCHOOL. They just drop out at some point around the time when it becomes evident that they won’t make the cut on gaokaos, usually around the age of 13 or 14, and move on to work on the nearest farm.
January 10, 2011 at 7:31 PM #651543ParticipantAs always, there are Chinese mothers and there are Chinese mothers.
The kind we see here in the U.S. are very specific, highly selected, basically the tip of the iceberg.
If you were to see the ‘typical’, the ‘average’ Chinese mother, you’d be shocked and horrified.
Suffice to say that as many as 40% of kids in rural Chinese schools never graduate from MIDDLE SCHOOL. They just drop out at some point around the time when it becomes evident that they won’t make the cut on gaokaos, usually around the age of 13 or 14, and move on to work on the nearest farm.
January 10, 2011 at 7:31 PM #651679ParticipantAs always, there are Chinese mothers and there are Chinese mothers.
The kind we see here in the U.S. are very specific, highly selected, basically the tip of the iceberg.
If you were to see the ‘typical’, the ‘average’ Chinese mother, you’d be shocked and horrified.
Suffice to say that as many as 40% of kids in rural Chinese schools never graduate from MIDDLE SCHOOL. They just drop out at some point around the time when it becomes evident that they won’t make the cut on gaokaos, usually around the age of 13 or 14, and move on to work on the nearest farm.
January 10, 2011 at 7:31 PM #652006ParticipantAs always, there are Chinese mothers and there are Chinese mothers.
The kind we see here in the U.S. are very specific, highly selected, basically the tip of the iceberg.
If you were to see the ‘typical’, the ‘average’ Chinese mother, you’d be shocked and horrified.
Suffice to say that as many as 40% of kids in rural Chinese schools never graduate from MIDDLE SCHOOL. They just drop out at some point around the time when it becomes evident that they won’t make the cut on gaokaos, usually around the age of 13 or 14, and move on to work on the nearest farm.
January 10, 2011 at 7:41 PM #650901Participant[quote=briansd1]
It’s no surprise to me to that, in one generation, Hong Kong and Singapore got richer (per capita) than their former colonial masters, Great Britain.
[/quote]And India is still dirt poor. Is there a difference in values between China and India?
The real reason is that, just like the Chinese people in the U.S., Hong Kong and Singapore are both inhabited by highly selected, most intelligent and hard-working narrow subset of the Chinese people who had the opportunity to immigrate to either. The same thing is happening in Beijing and Shanghai.
But I guess you could attribute that to Asian values too. If you’re inherently capable of high achievement, Asian values of your parents ensure that you go far. If you’re not, your parents will give up on you, send you to a farm and make another baby.
January 10, 2011 at 7:41 PM #650972Participant[quote=briansd1]
It’s no surprise to me to that, in one generation, Hong Kong and Singapore got richer (per capita) than their former colonial masters, Great Britain.
[/quote]And India is still dirt poor. Is there a difference in values between China and India?
The real reason is that, just like the Chinese people in the U.S., Hong Kong and Singapore are both inhabited by highly selected, most intelligent and hard-working narrow subset of the Chinese people who had the opportunity to immigrate to either. The same thing is happening in Beijing and Shanghai.
But I guess you could attribute that to Asian values too. If you’re inherently capable of high achievement, Asian values of your parents ensure that you go far. If you’re not, your parents will give up on you, send you to a farm and make another baby.
January 10, 2011 at 7:41 PM #651553Participant[quote=briansd1]
It’s no surprise to me to that, in one generation, Hong Kong and Singapore got richer (per capita) than their former colonial masters, Great Britain.
[/quote]And India is still dirt poor. Is there a difference in values between China and India?
The real reason is that, just like the Chinese people in the U.S., Hong Kong and Singapore are both inhabited by highly selected, most intelligent and hard-working narrow subset of the Chinese people who had the opportunity to immigrate to either. The same thing is happening in Beijing and Shanghai.
But I guess you could attribute that to Asian values too. If you’re inherently capable of high achievement, Asian values of your parents ensure that you go far. If you’re not, your parents will give up on you, send you to a farm and make another baby.
January 10, 2011 at 7:41 PM #651689Participant[quote=briansd1]
It’s no surprise to me to that, in one generation, Hong Kong and Singapore got richer (per capita) than their former colonial masters, Great Britain.
[/quote]And India is still dirt poor. Is there a difference in values between China and India?
The real reason is that, just like the Chinese people in the U.S., Hong Kong and Singapore are both inhabited by highly selected, most intelligent and hard-working narrow subset of the Chinese people who had the opportunity to immigrate to either. The same thing is happening in Beijing and Shanghai.
But I guess you could attribute that to Asian values too. If you’re inherently capable of high achievement, Asian values of your parents ensure that you go far. If you’re not, your parents will give up on you, send you to a farm and make another baby.
January 10, 2011 at 7:41 PM #652016Participant[quote=briansd1]
It’s no surprise to me to that, in one generation, Hong Kong and Singapore got richer (per capita) than their former colonial masters, Great Britain.
[/quote]And India is still dirt poor. Is there a difference in values between China and India?
The real reason is that, just like the Chinese people in the U.S., Hong Kong and Singapore are both inhabited by highly selected, most intelligent and hard-working narrow subset of the Chinese people who had the opportunity to immigrate to either. The same thing is happening in Beijing and Shanghai.
But I guess you could attribute that to Asian values too. If you’re inherently capable of high achievement, Asian values of your parents ensure that you go far. If you’re not, your parents will give up on you, send you to a farm and make another baby.
January 10, 2011 at 9:14 PM #650921CDMA ENG
ParticipantWhen I was at ASU they built a new building across from the H wing. It was the new life science building. We quickly dubbed it the death science building because there were three or four suicide jumpers in quick succesion until they locked the building down tighter than a drum.
All of them were asians. None of them were flunking out. It was noted by thier asian friends that these guys were “failures” and deeply ashamed because they were not maintian 4.0s in whatever.
One kid killed himself by slitting his own throat.
I can’t imagine that kind of family pressure that would make someone do that.
As for SDDuuuude kids… Man… they are well adjusted smart little kids…
They are proof positive that kids can be kids and do well in life.
CE
January 10, 2011 at 9:14 PM #650992ParticipantWhen I was at ASU they built a new building across from the H wing. It was the new life science building. We quickly dubbed it the death science building because there were three or four suicide jumpers in quick succesion until they locked the building down tighter than a drum.
All of them were asians. None of them were flunking out. It was noted by thier asian friends that these guys were “failures” and deeply ashamed because they were not maintian 4.0s in whatever.
One kid killed himself by slitting his own throat.
I can’t imagine that kind of family pressure that would make someone do that.
As for SDDuuuude kids… Man… they are well adjusted smart little kids…
They are proof positive that kids can be kids and do well in life.
CE
January 10, 2011 at 9:14 PM #651572ParticipantWhen I was at ASU they built a new building across from the H wing. It was the new life science building. We quickly dubbed it the death science building because there were three or four suicide jumpers in quick succesion until they locked the building down tighter than a drum.
All of them were asians. None of them were flunking out. It was noted by thier asian friends that these guys were “failures” and deeply ashamed because they were not maintian 4.0s in whatever.
One kid killed himself by slitting his own throat.
I can’t imagine that kind of family pressure that would make someone do that.
As for SDDuuuude kids… Man… they are well adjusted smart little kids…
They are proof positive that kids can be kids and do well in life.
CE
January 10, 2011 at 9:14 PM #651709ParticipantWhen I was at ASU they built a new building across from the H wing. It was the new life science building. We quickly dubbed it the death science building because there were three or four suicide jumpers in quick succesion until they locked the building down tighter than a drum.
All of them were asians. None of them were flunking out. It was noted by thier asian friends that these guys were “failures” and deeply ashamed because they were not maintian 4.0s in whatever.
One kid killed himself by slitting his own throat.
I can’t imagine that kind of family pressure that would make someone do that.
As for SDDuuuude kids… Man… they are well adjusted smart little kids…
They are proof positive that kids can be kids and do well in life.
CE
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