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[briansd1]

The use of services by ethnic group is pretty-well documented. People who work in social services would tell you that Vietnamese-Americans comprise a large portion of clients.

Here’s one report.
http://www.ochna.org/publications/documents/OCHNAVietnameseHealthReport_000.pdf

• The poverty rate for Vietnamese individuals and families is much higher than other race/ethnic groups; in 2008,
the poverty rate for Vietnamese people was 14.7%. The poverty rate for all individuals in Orange County was
9.9%.

http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html
The table below presents the percentages of welfare use by immigrants over the age of 65, both overall and from some of the larger immigrant groups, in 1990.

group % on welfare, California

all immigrants 45%
Chinese 55%
Filipino 39%
Iranian 26%
Korean 50%
Mexican 21%
Soviet Union 66%
Vietnamese 74%
all native-born 9%

If I get some time, I’ll find you some more recent information.

Unfortunately, the academic studies tend to lag by a decade or two are more data is available and academics take interest in studying the populations.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/Papers/Borjas-Trejo_1991.pdf

From Frum Forum, here’s an interesting article on Vietnamese voting for republicans.
http://www.frumforum.com/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters
http://hiphoprepublican.com/general/2010/08/24/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters/

Thankfully, as Vietnamese-Americans become more integrated, they vote more independently from their refugee parents.

Is the Republican Party taking Vietnamese voters for granted?

[briansd1]

[quote=AK]For that matter can you back up the “1/2 million” figure? There are about that many Asian-American residents of Orange County inclusive of all nationalities, Vietnamese Americans being perhaps a plurality but not a majority.[/quote]

Yes, the 1/2 million is an exaggeration on my part. That’s because I have Vietnamese-American friends who like to say that Little Saigon is 1/2 million.

I don’t have the 2010 census info off-hand, but I wanted to respond nonetheless. 1/2 million total Asians in OC sounds about right.

But considering that “Vietnamese Americans voted in favor of John McCain over Barack Obama at a rate of 67% to 30%” a change in voting pattern in the Vietnamese-American community to reflect the general proportions in OC can easily turn Orange County into a nice shade of blue.

[briansd1]

[quote=AK]For that matter can you back up the “1/2 million” figure? There are about that many Asian-American residents of Orange County inclusive of all nationalities, Vietnamese Americans being perhaps a plurality but not a majority.[/quote]

Yes, the 1/2 million is an exaggeration on my part. That’s because I have Vietnamese-American friends who like to say that Little Saigon is 1/2 million.

I don’t have the 2010 census info off-hand, but I wanted to respond nonetheless. 1/2 million total Asians in OC sounds about right.

But considering that “Vietnamese Americans voted in favor of John McCain over Barack Obama at a rate of 67% to 30%” a change in voting pattern in the Vietnamese-American community to reflect the general proportions in OC can easily turn Orange County into a nice shade of blue.

[briansd1]

[quote=AK]For that matter can you back up the “1/2 million” figure? There are about that many Asian-American residents of Orange County inclusive of all nationalities, Vietnamese Americans being perhaps a plurality but not a majority.[/quote]

Yes, the 1/2 million is an exaggeration on my part. That’s because I have Vietnamese-American friends who like to say that Little Saigon is 1/2 million.

I don’t have the 2010 census info off-hand, but I wanted to respond nonetheless. 1/2 million total Asians in OC sounds about right.

But considering that “Vietnamese Americans voted in favor of John McCain over Barack Obama at a rate of 67% to 30%” a change in voting pattern in the Vietnamese-American community to reflect the general proportions in OC can easily turn Orange County into a nice shade of blue.

[briansd1]

[quote=AK]For that matter can you back up the “1/2 million” figure? There are about that many Asian-American residents of Orange County inclusive of all nationalities, Vietnamese Americans being perhaps a plurality but not a majority.[/quote]

Yes, the 1/2 million is an exaggeration on my part. That’s because I have Vietnamese-American friends who like to say that Little Saigon is 1/2 million.

I don’t have the 2010 census info off-hand, but I wanted to respond nonetheless. 1/2 million total Asians in OC sounds about right.

But considering that “Vietnamese Americans voted in favor of John McCain over Barack Obama at a rate of 67% to 30%” a change in voting pattern in the Vietnamese-American community to reflect the general proportions in OC can easily turn Orange County into a nice shade of blue.

[briansd1]

[quote=AK]For that matter can you back up the “1/2 million” figure? There are about that many Asian-American residents of Orange County inclusive of all nationalities, Vietnamese Americans being perhaps a plurality but not a majority.[/quote]

Yes, the 1/2 million is an exaggeration on my part. That’s because I have Vietnamese-American friends who like to say that Little Saigon is 1/2 million.

I don’t have the 2010 census info off-hand, but I wanted to respond nonetheless. 1/2 million total Asians in OC sounds about right.

But considering that “Vietnamese Americans voted in favor of John McCain over Barack Obama at a rate of 67% to 30%” a change in voting pattern in the Vietnamese-American community to reflect the general proportions in OC can easily turn Orange County into a nice shade of blue.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1]The use of services by ethnic group is pretty-well documented. People who work in social services would tell you that Vietnamese-Americans comprise a large portion of clients.

Here’s one report.
http://www.ochna.org/publications/documents/OCHNAVietnameseHealthReport_000.pdf

• The poverty rate for Vietnamese individuals and families is much higher than other race/ethnic groups; in 2008,
the poverty rate for Vietnamese people was 14.7%. The poverty rate for all individuals in Orange County was
9.9%.

http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html
The table below presents the percentages of welfare use by immigrants over the age of 65, both overall and from some of the larger immigrant groups, in 1990.

group % on welfare, California

all immigrants 45%
Chinese 55%
Filipino 39%
Iranian 26%
Korean 50%
Mexican 21%
Soviet Union 66%
Vietnamese 74%
all native-born 9%

If I get some time, I’ll find you some more recent information.

Unfortunately, the academic studies tend to lag by a decade or two are more data is available and academics take interest in studying the populations.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/Papers/Borjas-Trejo_1991.pdf

From Frum Forum, here’s an interesting article on Vietnamese voting for republicans.
http://www.frumforum.com/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters
http://hiphoprepublican.com/general/2010/08/24/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters/

Thankfully, as Vietnamese-Americans become more integrated, they vote more independently from their refugee parents.

http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2009/11/is-the-republican-party-taking-vietnamese-voters-for-granted/%5B/quote%5D

You do realize a good portion of these immigrants are borderline welfare fraudsters…IE: kinda hard to substantiate overseas assets and income in the U.S. Just saying…..The sad part is some folks get better medical on Medicaid then folks on Medicare.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1]The use of services by ethnic group is pretty-well documented. People who work in social services would tell you that Vietnamese-Americans comprise a large portion of clients.

Here’s one report.
http://www.ochna.org/publications/documents/OCHNAVietnameseHealthReport_000.pdf

• The poverty rate for Vietnamese individuals and families is much higher than other race/ethnic groups; in 2008,
the poverty rate for Vietnamese people was 14.7%. The poverty rate for all individuals in Orange County was
9.9%.

http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html
The table below presents the percentages of welfare use by immigrants over the age of 65, both overall and from some of the larger immigrant groups, in 1990.

group % on welfare, California

all immigrants 45%
Chinese 55%
Filipino 39%
Iranian 26%
Korean 50%
Mexican 21%
Soviet Union 66%
Vietnamese 74%
all native-born 9%

If I get some time, I’ll find you some more recent information.

Unfortunately, the academic studies tend to lag by a decade or two are more data is available and academics take interest in studying the populations.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/Papers/Borjas-Trejo_1991.pdf

From Frum Forum, here’s an interesting article on Vietnamese voting for republicans.
http://www.frumforum.com/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters
http://hiphoprepublican.com/general/2010/08/24/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters/

Thankfully, as Vietnamese-Americans become more integrated, they vote more independently from their refugee parents.

http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2009/11/is-the-republican-party-taking-vietnamese-voters-for-granted/%5B/quote%5D

You do realize a good portion of these immigrants are borderline welfare fraudsters…IE: kinda hard to substantiate overseas assets and income in the U.S. Just saying…..The sad part is some folks get better medical on Medicaid then folks on Medicare.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1]The use of services by ethnic group is pretty-well documented. People who work in social services would tell you that Vietnamese-Americans comprise a large portion of clients.

Here’s one report.
http://www.ochna.org/publications/documents/OCHNAVietnameseHealthReport_000.pdf

• The poverty rate for Vietnamese individuals and families is much higher than other race/ethnic groups; in 2008,
the poverty rate for Vietnamese people was 14.7%. The poverty rate for all individuals in Orange County was
9.9%.

http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html
The table below presents the percentages of welfare use by immigrants over the age of 65, both overall and from some of the larger immigrant groups, in 1990.

group % on welfare, California

all immigrants 45%
Chinese 55%
Filipino 39%
Iranian 26%
Korean 50%
Mexican 21%
Soviet Union 66%
Vietnamese 74%
all native-born 9%

If I get some time, I’ll find you some more recent information.

Unfortunately, the academic studies tend to lag by a decade or two are more data is available and academics take interest in studying the populations.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/Papers/Borjas-Trejo_1991.pdf

From Frum Forum, here’s an interesting article on Vietnamese voting for republicans.
http://www.frumforum.com/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters
http://hiphoprepublican.com/general/2010/08/24/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters/

Thankfully, as Vietnamese-Americans become more integrated, they vote more independently from their refugee parents.

http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2009/11/is-the-republican-party-taking-vietnamese-voters-for-granted/%5B/quote%5D

You do realize a good portion of these immigrants are borderline welfare fraudsters…IE: kinda hard to substantiate overseas assets and income in the U.S. Just saying…..The sad part is some folks get better medical on Medicaid then folks on Medicare.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1]The use of services by ethnic group is pretty-well documented. People who work in social services would tell you that Vietnamese-Americans comprise a large portion of clients.

Here’s one report.
http://www.ochna.org/publications/documents/OCHNAVietnameseHealthReport_000.pdf

• The poverty rate for Vietnamese individuals and families is much higher than other race/ethnic groups; in 2008,
the poverty rate for Vietnamese people was 14.7%. The poverty rate for all individuals in Orange County was
9.9%.

http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html
The table below presents the percentages of welfare use by immigrants over the age of 65, both overall and from some of the larger immigrant groups, in 1990.

group % on welfare, California

all immigrants 45%
Chinese 55%
Filipino 39%
Iranian 26%
Korean 50%
Mexican 21%
Soviet Union 66%
Vietnamese 74%
all native-born 9%

If I get some time, I’ll find you some more recent information.

Unfortunately, the academic studies tend to lag by a decade or two are more data is available and academics take interest in studying the populations.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/Papers/Borjas-Trejo_1991.pdf

From Frum Forum, here’s an interesting article on Vietnamese voting for republicans.
http://www.frumforum.com/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters
http://hiphoprepublican.com/general/2010/08/24/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters/

Thankfully, as Vietnamese-Americans become more integrated, they vote more independently from their refugee parents.

http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2009/11/is-the-republican-party-taking-vietnamese-voters-for-granted/%5B/quote%5D

You do realize a good portion of these immigrants are borderline welfare fraudsters…IE: kinda hard to substantiate overseas assets and income in the U.S. Just saying…..The sad part is some folks get better medical on Medicaid then folks on Medicare.

[Coronita]

[quote=briansd1]The use of services by ethnic group is pretty-well documented. People who work in social services would tell you that Vietnamese-Americans comprise a large portion of clients.

Here’s one report.
http://www.ochna.org/publications/documents/OCHNAVietnameseHealthReport_000.pdf

• The poverty rate for Vietnamese individuals and families is much higher than other race/ethnic groups; in 2008,
the poverty rate for Vietnamese people was 14.7%. The poverty rate for all individuals in Orange County was
9.9%.

http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html
The table below presents the percentages of welfare use by immigrants over the age of 65, both overall and from some of the larger immigrant groups, in 1990.

group % on welfare, California

all immigrants 45%
Chinese 55%
Filipino 39%
Iranian 26%
Korean 50%
Mexican 21%
Soviet Union 66%
Vietnamese 74%
all native-born 9%

If I get some time, I’ll find you some more recent information.

Unfortunately, the academic studies tend to lag by a decade or two are more data is available and academics take interest in studying the populations.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/Papers/Borjas-Trejo_1991.pdf

From Frum Forum, here’s an interesting article on Vietnamese voting for republicans.
http://www.frumforum.com/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters
http://hiphoprepublican.com/general/2010/08/24/gop-losing-vietnamese-american-voters/

Thankfully, as Vietnamese-Americans become more integrated, they vote more independently from their refugee parents.

http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2009/11/is-the-republican-party-taking-vietnamese-voters-for-granted/%5B/quote%5D

You do realize a good portion of these immigrants are borderline welfare fraudsters…IE: kinda hard to substantiate overseas assets and income in the U.S. Just saying…..The sad part is some folks get better medical on Medicaid then folks on Medicare.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
You do realize a good portion of these immigrants are borderline welfare fraudsters…IE: kinda hard to substantiate overseas assets and income in the U.S. Just saying…..The sad part is some folks get better medical on Medicaid then folks on Medicare.[/quote]

Perhaps you’re right….

The UC Davis article referenced earlier is interesting paper about elderly Chinese-Americans’ use of welfare:
http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html

But don’t f—ing vote Republican if you’re on the dole. Pretty dumb, IMO.

Interesting to me that only Vietnamese-American, of all Asian-Americans, disproportionally vote Republican. But Vietnamese-Americans are some of the heaviest users of social services.

For example, I heard that Vietnamese-American are heavy users of in-home medical services in OC. It would serve them right if the Republicans succeed in cutting off their services.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
You do realize a good portion of these immigrants are borderline welfare fraudsters…IE: kinda hard to substantiate overseas assets and income in the U.S. Just saying…..The sad part is some folks get better medical on Medicaid then folks on Medicare.[/quote]

Perhaps you’re right….

The UC Davis article referenced earlier is interesting paper about elderly Chinese-Americans’ use of welfare:
http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html

But don’t f—ing vote Republican if you’re on the dole. Pretty dumb, IMO.

Interesting to me that only Vietnamese-American, of all Asian-Americans, disproportionally vote Republican. But Vietnamese-Americans are some of the heaviest users of social services.

For example, I heard that Vietnamese-American are heavy users of in-home medical services in OC. It would serve them right if the Republicans succeed in cutting off their services.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
You do realize a good portion of these immigrants are borderline welfare fraudsters…IE: kinda hard to substantiate overseas assets and income in the U.S. Just saying…..The sad part is some folks get better medical on Medicaid then folks on Medicare.[/quote]

Perhaps you’re right….

The UC Davis article referenced earlier is interesting paper about elderly Chinese-Americans’ use of welfare:
http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html

But don’t f—ing vote Republican if you’re on the dole. Pretty dumb, IMO.

Interesting to me that only Vietnamese-American, of all Asian-Americans, disproportionally vote Republican. But Vietnamese-Americans are some of the heaviest users of social services.

For example, I heard that Vietnamese-American are heavy users of in-home medical services in OC. It would serve them right if the Republicans succeed in cutting off their services.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
You do realize a good portion of these immigrants are borderline welfare fraudsters…IE: kinda hard to substantiate overseas assets and income in the U.S. Just saying…..The sad part is some folks get better medical on Medicaid then folks on Medicare.[/quote]

Perhaps you’re right….

The UC Davis article referenced earlier is interesting paper about elderly Chinese-Americans’ use of welfare:
http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/pub/Immigration/WelfareUse/WelfareUsageReport/FullNMReport.html

But don’t f—ing vote Republican if you’re on the dole. Pretty dumb, IMO.

Interesting to me that only Vietnamese-American, of all Asian-Americans, disproportionally vote Republican. But Vietnamese-Americans are some of the heaviest users of social services.

For example, I heard that Vietnamese-American are heavy users of in-home medical services in OC. It would serve them right if the Republicans succeed in cutting off their services.

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