OT: so this is what our soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan?

[outtamojo]

[quote=briansd1][quote=TexasLine]

Really? “Hard-core right wing bushies”…? and the boy rapers…? This is vile behavior and your implication that there is any connection, between a conservative world view and pedophilia …is just as vile.
[/quote]

Not about pedophilia…. but I can think of quite a few right-wingers who were “taken down” by homosexuality.

It’s perfectly honorable to be gay in my opinion….. but when politicians are bashing gay people and they are homosexuals themselves, then there’s something very wicked. They really need to get their heads examined.[/quote]

The Pashtuns should be good research material on the learned behaviour vs genetic debate on homosexuality.

[NotCranky]

[quote=outtamojo][quote=Russell]Ottamojo, while what you posted about is awful,I don’t think it relates to the current administration’s justification for the war. You can correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t the current administration promoting the war on only on the idea that it is the best place to fight “terrorism”? There was a lot of culture based propaganda to gain sympathy for the wars early on. I think you have to take that with a grain of salt.

I apologize if I was offensive to you in my somewhat off-tract rant. Just wanted to address any possible U.S. as “holier than thou” misconceptions and some things that really bother me in our own culture.[/quote]

We here in the U.S are far from perfect I realize that;but how they reconcile their religion with man-boy hookups is beyond my ability to comprehend. I am tempted to insert a Catholic priest joke here but am afraid of the path it may lead to : )[/quote]

I understand and agree that what you described is offensive. I disagree with with linking that behavior to Islam and to the validity of the mission for which our soldiers sacrifice. It is too close to anti-Islam propaganda.Yeah, people involved are messed up.

Afghans live in a surreal/ science fiction world for reason not related to their religion, thanks to larger super powers. Can you imagine walking around wondering if a projectile was incoming from some unmanned aircraft tens of thousands of feet out of view? How many cylinders would your culture be firing on with this kind of continuous stress prevalent since the invasion of the Soviets?

Can we agree that we are simply talking about symptoms in a society ripe for an epidemic of some sort?

[NotCranky]

[quote=outtamojo][quote=Russell]Ottamojo, while what you posted about is awful,I don’t think it relates to the current administration’s justification for the war. You can correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t the current administration promoting the war on only on the idea that it is the best place to fight “terrorism”? There was a lot of culture based propaganda to gain sympathy for the wars early on. I think you have to take that with a grain of salt.

I apologize if I was offensive to you in my somewhat off-tract rant. Just wanted to address any possible U.S. as “holier than thou” misconceptions and some things that really bother me in our own culture.[/quote]

We here in the U.S are far from perfect I realize that;but how they reconcile their religion with man-boy hookups is beyond my ability to comprehend. I am tempted to insert a Catholic priest joke here but am afraid of the path it may lead to : )[/quote]

I understand and agree that what you described is offensive. I disagree with with linking that behavior to Islam and to the validity of the mission for which our soldiers sacrifice. It is too close to anti-Islam propaganda.Yeah, people involved are messed up.

Afghans live in a surreal/ science fiction world for reason not related to their religion, thanks to larger super powers. Can you imagine walking around wondering if a projectile was incoming from some unmanned aircraft tens of thousands of feet out of view? How many cylinders would your culture be firing on with this kind of continuous stress prevalent since the invasion of the Soviets?

Can we agree that we are simply talking about symptoms in a society ripe for an epidemic of some sort?

[NotCranky]

[quote=outtamojo][quote=Russell]Ottamojo, while what you posted about is awful,I don’t think it relates to the current administration’s justification for the war. You can correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t the current administration promoting the war on only on the idea that it is the best place to fight “terrorism”? There was a lot of culture based propaganda to gain sympathy for the wars early on. I think you have to take that with a grain of salt.

I apologize if I was offensive to you in my somewhat off-tract rant. Just wanted to address any possible U.S. as “holier than thou” misconceptions and some things that really bother me in our own culture.[/quote]

We here in the U.S are far from perfect I realize that;but how they reconcile their religion with man-boy hookups is beyond my ability to comprehend. I am tempted to insert a Catholic priest joke here but am afraid of the path it may lead to : )[/quote]

I understand and agree that what you described is offensive. I disagree with with linking that behavior to Islam and to the validity of the mission for which our soldiers sacrifice. It is too close to anti-Islam propaganda.Yeah, people involved are messed up.

Afghans live in a surreal/ science fiction world for reason not related to their religion, thanks to larger super powers. Can you imagine walking around wondering if a projectile was incoming from some unmanned aircraft tens of thousands of feet out of view? How many cylinders would your culture be firing on with this kind of continuous stress prevalent since the invasion of the Soviets?

Can we agree that we are simply talking about symptoms in a society ripe for an epidemic of some sort?

[NotCranky]

[quote=outtamojo][quote=Russell]Ottamojo, while what you posted about is awful,I don’t think it relates to the current administration’s justification for the war. You can correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t the current administration promoting the war on only on the idea that it is the best place to fight “terrorism”? There was a lot of culture based propaganda to gain sympathy for the wars early on. I think you have to take that with a grain of salt.

I apologize if I was offensive to you in my somewhat off-tract rant. Just wanted to address any possible U.S. as “holier than thou” misconceptions and some things that really bother me in our own culture.[/quote]

We here in the U.S are far from perfect I realize that;but how they reconcile their religion with man-boy hookups is beyond my ability to comprehend. I am tempted to insert a Catholic priest joke here but am afraid of the path it may lead to : )[/quote]

I understand and agree that what you described is offensive. I disagree with with linking that behavior to Islam and to the validity of the mission for which our soldiers sacrifice. It is too close to anti-Islam propaganda.Yeah, people involved are messed up.

Afghans live in a surreal/ science fiction world for reason not related to their religion, thanks to larger super powers. Can you imagine walking around wondering if a projectile was incoming from some unmanned aircraft tens of thousands of feet out of view? How many cylinders would your culture be firing on with this kind of continuous stress prevalent since the invasion of the Soviets?

Can we agree that we are simply talking about symptoms in a society ripe for an epidemic of some sort?

[NotCranky]

[quote=outtamojo][quote=Russell]Ottamojo, while what you posted about is awful,I don’t think it relates to the current administration’s justification for the war. You can correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t the current administration promoting the war on only on the idea that it is the best place to fight “terrorism”? There was a lot of culture based propaganda to gain sympathy for the wars early on. I think you have to take that with a grain of salt.

I apologize if I was offensive to you in my somewhat off-tract rant. Just wanted to address any possible U.S. as “holier than thou” misconceptions and some things that really bother me in our own culture.[/quote]

We here in the U.S are far from perfect I realize that;but how they reconcile their religion with man-boy hookups is beyond my ability to comprehend. I am tempted to insert a Catholic priest joke here but am afraid of the path it may lead to : )[/quote]

I understand and agree that what you described is offensive. I disagree with with linking that behavior to Islam and to the validity of the mission for which our soldiers sacrifice. It is too close to anti-Islam propaganda.Yeah, people involved are messed up.

Afghans live in a surreal/ science fiction world for reason not related to their religion, thanks to larger super powers. Can you imagine walking around wondering if a projectile was incoming from some unmanned aircraft tens of thousands of feet out of view? How many cylinders would your culture be firing on with this kind of continuous stress prevalent since the invasion of the Soviets?

Can we agree that we are simply talking about symptoms in a society ripe for an epidemic of some sort?

[raty4R]

The war in Afganistan is about oil and gas.
the link shows oil and gas pipelines in the region. Should open your eyes a little.
href=”http://www.informationliberation.com/files/middleastmap.jpg”

You can google for more Afgan oil pipeline information. The US and Russia ain’t in these godforsaken regions to bring justice and freedom to the peoples.

[raty4R]

The war in Afganistan is about oil and gas.
the link shows oil and gas pipelines in the region. Should open your eyes a little.
href=”http://www.informationliberation.com/files/middleastmap.jpg”

You can google for more Afgan oil pipeline information. The US and Russia ain’t in these godforsaken regions to bring justice and freedom to the peoples.

[raty4R]

The war in Afganistan is about oil and gas.
the link shows oil and gas pipelines in the region. Should open your eyes a little.
href=”http://www.informationliberation.com/files/middleastmap.jpg”

You can google for more Afgan oil pipeline information. The US and Russia ain’t in these godforsaken regions to bring justice and freedom to the peoples.

[raty4R]

The war in Afganistan is about oil and gas.
the link shows oil and gas pipelines in the region. Should open your eyes a little.
href=”http://www.informationliberation.com/files/middleastmap.jpg”

You can google for more Afgan oil pipeline information. The US and Russia ain’t in these godforsaken regions to bring justice and freedom to the peoples.

[raty4R]

The war in Afganistan is about oil and gas.
the link shows oil and gas pipelines in the region. Should open your eyes a little.
href=”http://www.informationliberation.com/files/middleastmap.jpg”

You can google for more Afgan oil pipeline information. The US and Russia ain’t in these godforsaken regions to bring justice and freedom to the peoples.

[NotCranky]

[quote=outtamojoThe Pashtuns should be good research material on the learned behaviour vs genetic debate on homosexuality.[/quote]

Outtamojo, I thought about this area of thought and perception on the issue after reading the story linked in your original post.
In the Philippines the “Benny boy” syndrome is(was?) pretty prevalent and I sometimes wondered about causation there, if it was related to prostitution in favor of American men, one way or another…The Catholic church would not escape scrutiny either. Not an expert of course… or drawing conclusions of guilt. On this topic in general, I don’t think the opinions of the top experts in the field are PC and we don’t hear about them much.

Of course, you’d be opening a real can of worms to suggest this as a topic. I mean…you did.

[NotCranky]

[quote=outtamojoThe Pashtuns should be good research material on the learned behaviour vs genetic debate on homosexuality.[/quote]

Outtamojo, I thought about this area of thought and perception on the issue after reading the story linked in your original post.
In the Philippines the “Benny boy” syndrome is(was?) pretty prevalent and I sometimes wondered about causation there, if it was related to prostitution in favor of American men, one way or another…The Catholic church would not escape scrutiny either. Not an expert of course… or drawing conclusions of guilt. On this topic in general, I don’t think the opinions of the top experts in the field are PC and we don’t hear about them much.

Of course, you’d be opening a real can of worms to suggest this as a topic. I mean…you did.

[NotCranky]

[quote=outtamojoThe Pashtuns should be good research material on the learned behaviour vs genetic debate on homosexuality.[/quote]

Outtamojo, I thought about this area of thought and perception on the issue after reading the story linked in your original post.
In the Philippines the “Benny boy” syndrome is(was?) pretty prevalent and I sometimes wondered about causation there, if it was related to prostitution in favor of American men, one way or another…The Catholic church would not escape scrutiny either. Not an expert of course… or drawing conclusions of guilt. On this topic in general, I don’t think the opinions of the top experts in the field are PC and we don’t hear about them much.

Of course, you’d be opening a real can of worms to suggest this as a topic. I mean…you did.

[NotCranky]

[quote=outtamojoThe Pashtuns should be good research material on the learned behaviour vs genetic debate on homosexuality.[/quote]

Outtamojo, I thought about this area of thought and perception on the issue after reading the story linked in your original post.
In the Philippines the “Benny boy” syndrome is(was?) pretty prevalent and I sometimes wondered about causation there, if it was related to prostitution in favor of American men, one way or another…The Catholic church would not escape scrutiny either. Not an expert of course… or drawing conclusions of guilt. On this topic in general, I don’t think the opinions of the top experts in the field are PC and we don’t hear about them much.

Of course, you’d be opening a real can of worms to suggest this as a topic. I mean…you did.

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