OT: so this is what our soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan?

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[quote=patb][quote=CONCHO][quote=martink110]The war in Afganistan is about oil and gas.[/quote]

There is at least one other very valuable global commodity in the region as well. The Taliban had unwisely outlawed production of this important resource but it is being produced and exported in large quantities again.[/quote]

lots of opium from Burma, India, Thailand.

Now Michael Moore said there was a
Pipeline the bushies wanted to run through
Afghanistan, but, seems awful silly to invade over a pipeline route.[/quote]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan

Afghanistan is, as of March, 2008, the greatest illicit opium producer in the world, ahead of Burma (Myanmar) and the “Golden Triangle”. Afghanistan is the main producer of opium in “Golden Crescent”. Opium production in Afghanistan has been on the rise since the downfall of the Taliban in 2001. Based on UNODC data, there has been more opium poppy cultivation in each of the past four growing seasons (2004–2007) than in any one year during Taliban rule. Also, more land is now used for opium in Afghanistan than for coca cultivation in Latin America. In 2007, 93% of the opiates on the world market originated in Afghanistan.[1] This amounts to an export value of about $64 billion,

Illegal narcotics are about the 3rd or 4th biggest industry in the world behind energy and weapons @ about 4-500 billion per year. CIA and proxies have a history of involvement and 85% of it winds up in western banks.

The first guy to figure it out wound up suiciding himself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb

Former LAPD narcotics officer confronting the CIA director on C-Span

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2009/dec/13/drug-money-banks-saved-un-cfief-claims
Drug money saved banks in global crisis, claims UN advisor

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/DEA_encouraged_drug_trade_says_Morales_1106.html
Bolivian leader Evo Morales on Thursday accused the US government of encouraging drug-trafficking as he explained his decision to banish the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA).

[raty4R]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=patb]
Now Michael Moore said there was a
Pipeline the bushies wanted to run through
Afghanistan, but, seems awful silly to invade over a pipeline route.[/quote]

That pipeline was a myth. As much as the Russians and others would love it, nobody on this planet would finance it. Cuz it’s in…you know…Afghanistan. Where empires go to die.[/quote]

Myth?
Polictics, left right has nothing to do with it. Bush and Cheny were pawns.
put on your tinfoil hat and research how the CIA got Russia involved in Afghanistan. that war was the Russian Vietnam it bankrupted the USSR.
This link show a time line starting in 1979-yes 1979 of the interestss in Afghanistan. very interesting with plenty of links to research.
http://www.ringnebula.com/Oil/Timeline.htm

1997 bbc article on the Taliban Texas for talks on gas pipeline
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm
sorry my linking skills are weak.

[raty4R]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=patb]
Now Michael Moore said there was a
Pipeline the bushies wanted to run through
Afghanistan, but, seems awful silly to invade over a pipeline route.[/quote]

That pipeline was a myth. As much as the Russians and others would love it, nobody on this planet would finance it. Cuz it’s in…you know…Afghanistan. Where empires go to die.[/quote]

Myth?
Polictics, left right has nothing to do with it. Bush and Cheny were pawns.
put on your tinfoil hat and research how the CIA got Russia involved in Afghanistan. that war was the Russian Vietnam it bankrupted the USSR.
This link show a time line starting in 1979-yes 1979 of the interestss in Afghanistan. very interesting with plenty of links to research.
http://www.ringnebula.com/Oil/Timeline.htm

1997 bbc article on the Taliban Texas for talks on gas pipeline
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm
sorry my linking skills are weak.

[raty4R]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=patb]
Now Michael Moore said there was a
Pipeline the bushies wanted to run through
Afghanistan, but, seems awful silly to invade over a pipeline route.[/quote]

That pipeline was a myth. As much as the Russians and others would love it, nobody on this planet would finance it. Cuz it’s in…you know…Afghanistan. Where empires go to die.[/quote]

Myth?
Polictics, left right has nothing to do with it. Bush and Cheny were pawns.
put on your tinfoil hat and research how the CIA got Russia involved in Afghanistan. that war was the Russian Vietnam it bankrupted the USSR.
This link show a time line starting in 1979-yes 1979 of the interestss in Afghanistan. very interesting with plenty of links to research.
http://www.ringnebula.com/Oil/Timeline.htm

1997 bbc article on the Taliban Texas for talks on gas pipeline
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm
sorry my linking skills are weak.

[raty4R]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=patb]
Now Michael Moore said there was a
Pipeline the bushies wanted to run through
Afghanistan, but, seems awful silly to invade over a pipeline route.[/quote]

That pipeline was a myth. As much as the Russians and others would love it, nobody on this planet would finance it. Cuz it’s in…you know…Afghanistan. Where empires go to die.[/quote]

Myth?
Polictics, left right has nothing to do with it. Bush and Cheny were pawns.
put on your tinfoil hat and research how the CIA got Russia involved in Afghanistan. that war was the Russian Vietnam it bankrupted the USSR.
This link show a time line starting in 1979-yes 1979 of the interestss in Afghanistan. very interesting with plenty of links to research.
http://www.ringnebula.com/Oil/Timeline.htm

1997 bbc article on the Taliban Texas for talks on gas pipeline
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm
sorry my linking skills are weak.

[raty4R]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=patb]
Now Michael Moore said there was a
Pipeline the bushies wanted to run through
Afghanistan, but, seems awful silly to invade over a pipeline route.[/quote]

That pipeline was a myth. As much as the Russians and others would love it, nobody on this planet would finance it. Cuz it’s in…you know…Afghanistan. Where empires go to die.[/quote]

Myth?
Polictics, left right has nothing to do with it. Bush and Cheny were pawns.
put on your tinfoil hat and research how the CIA got Russia involved in Afghanistan. that war was the Russian Vietnam it bankrupted the USSR.
This link show a time line starting in 1979-yes 1979 of the interestss in Afghanistan. very interesting with plenty of links to research.
http://www.ringnebula.com/Oil/Timeline.htm

1997 bbc article on the Taliban Texas for talks on gas pipeline
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm
sorry my linking skills are weak.

[SK in CV]

[quote=martink110][quote=SK in CV][quote=patb]
Now Michael Moore said there was a
Pipeline the bushies wanted to run through
Afghanistan, but, seems awful silly to invade over a pipeline route.[/quote]

That pipeline was a myth. As much as the Russians and others would love it, nobody on this planet would finance it. Cuz it’s in…you know…Afghanistan. Where empires go to die.[/quote]

Myth?
Polictics, left right has nothing to do with it. [/quote]

Yes, myth. From wherever it came. (I doubt Moore was the first to propose it.) I’m quite sure I never proposed or even implied that politics had anything to do with it.

[SK in CV]

[quote=martink110][quote=SK in CV][quote=patb]
Now Michael Moore said there was a
Pipeline the bushies wanted to run through
Afghanistan, but, seems awful silly to invade over a pipeline route.[/quote]

That pipeline was a myth. As much as the Russians and others would love it, nobody on this planet would finance it. Cuz it’s in…you know…Afghanistan. Where empires go to die.[/quote]

Myth?
Polictics, left right has nothing to do with it. [/quote]

Yes, myth. From wherever it came. (I doubt Moore was the first to propose it.) I’m quite sure I never proposed or even implied that politics had anything to do with it.

[SK in CV]

[quote=martink110][quote=SK in CV][quote=patb]
Now Michael Moore said there was a
Pipeline the bushies wanted to run through
Afghanistan, but, seems awful silly to invade over a pipeline route.[/quote]

That pipeline was a myth. As much as the Russians and others would love it, nobody on this planet would finance it. Cuz it’s in…you know…Afghanistan. Where empires go to die.[/quote]

Myth?
Polictics, left right has nothing to do with it. [/quote]

Yes, myth. From wherever it came. (I doubt Moore was the first to propose it.) I’m quite sure I never proposed or even implied that politics had anything to do with it.

[SK in CV]

[quote=martink110][quote=SK in CV][quote=patb]
Now Michael Moore said there was a
Pipeline the bushies wanted to run through
Afghanistan, but, seems awful silly to invade over a pipeline route.[/quote]

That pipeline was a myth. As much as the Russians and others would love it, nobody on this planet would finance it. Cuz it’s in…you know…Afghanistan. Where empires go to die.[/quote]

Myth?
Polictics, left right has nothing to do with it. [/quote]

Yes, myth. From wherever it came. (I doubt Moore was the first to propose it.) I’m quite sure I never proposed or even implied that politics had anything to do with it.

[SK in CV]

[quote=martink110][quote=SK in CV][quote=patb]
Now Michael Moore said there was a
Pipeline the bushies wanted to run through
Afghanistan, but, seems awful silly to invade over a pipeline route.[/quote]

That pipeline was a myth. As much as the Russians and others would love it, nobody on this planet would finance it. Cuz it’s in…you know…Afghanistan. Where empires go to die.[/quote]

Myth?
Polictics, left right has nothing to do with it. [/quote]

Yes, myth. From wherever it came. (I doubt Moore was the first to propose it.) I’m quite sure I never proposed or even implied that politics had anything to do with it.

[raty4R]

Well myth wise – time will tell… The polictics part was in response to other posts blaming Bush or the left or right. Why do you believe the US is in Afghanistan?(honest question)

[raty4R]

Well myth wise – time will tell… The polictics part was in response to other posts blaming Bush or the left or right. Why do you believe the US is in Afghanistan?(honest question)

[raty4R]

Well myth wise – time will tell… The polictics part was in response to other posts blaming Bush or the left or right. Why do you believe the US is in Afghanistan?(honest question)

[raty4R]

Well myth wise – time will tell… The polictics part was in response to other posts blaming Bush or the left or right. Why do you believe the US is in Afghanistan?(honest question)

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