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[an]

[quote=briansd1]Everything I wrote here is facts, not opinions; and I provided data to support my statements.[/quote]
I’d say, you’re light on facts and heavy on opinions. You tried to paint the picture than poor people vote republicans and rich people vote democrats.

Here are some data to disput your claim. San Diego political map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California
Go to the politics section. Although San Diego turned blue in 2008, the districts w/ higher median household income and per capita income voted Republicans while the Districts with lower income voted Democrats.

According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.

[ocrenter]

[quote=AN][quote=briansd1]Everything I wrote here is facts, not opinions; and I provided data to support my statements.[/quote]
I’d say, you’re light on facts and heavy on opinions. You tried to paint the picture than poor people vote republicans and rich people vote democrats.

Here are some data to disput your claim. San Diego political map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California
Go to the politics section. Although San Diego turned blue in 2008, the districts w/ higher median household income and per capita income voted Republicans while the Districts with lower income voted Democrats.

According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.[/quote]

sometimes selected presentation of facts is even worse than no facts at all. why focus on the Jews and Asians? why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?

[ocrenter]

[quote=AN][quote=briansd1]Everything I wrote here is facts, not opinions; and I provided data to support my statements.[/quote]
I’d say, you’re light on facts and heavy on opinions. You tried to paint the picture than poor people vote republicans and rich people vote democrats.

Here are some data to disput your claim. San Diego political map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California
Go to the politics section. Although San Diego turned blue in 2008, the districts w/ higher median household income and per capita income voted Republicans while the Districts with lower income voted Democrats.

According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.[/quote]

sometimes selected presentation of facts is even worse than no facts at all. why focus on the Jews and Asians? why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?

[ocrenter]

[quote=AN][quote=briansd1]Everything I wrote here is facts, not opinions; and I provided data to support my statements.[/quote]
I’d say, you’re light on facts and heavy on opinions. You tried to paint the picture than poor people vote republicans and rich people vote democrats.

Here are some data to disput your claim. San Diego political map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California
Go to the politics section. Although San Diego turned blue in 2008, the districts w/ higher median household income and per capita income voted Republicans while the Districts with lower income voted Democrats.

According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.[/quote]

sometimes selected presentation of facts is even worse than no facts at all. why focus on the Jews and Asians? why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?

[ocrenter]

[quote=AN][quote=briansd1]Everything I wrote here is facts, not opinions; and I provided data to support my statements.[/quote]
I’d say, you’re light on facts and heavy on opinions. You tried to paint the picture than poor people vote republicans and rich people vote democrats.

Here are some data to disput your claim. San Diego political map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California
Go to the politics section. Although San Diego turned blue in 2008, the districts w/ higher median household income and per capita income voted Republicans while the Districts with lower income voted Democrats.

According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.[/quote]

sometimes selected presentation of facts is even worse than no facts at all. why focus on the Jews and Asians? why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?

[ocrenter]

[quote=AN][quote=briansd1]Everything I wrote here is facts, not opinions; and I provided data to support my statements.[/quote]
I’d say, you’re light on facts and heavy on opinions. You tried to paint the picture than poor people vote republicans and rich people vote democrats.

Here are some data to disput your claim. San Diego political map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California
Go to the politics section. Although San Diego turned blue in 2008, the districts w/ higher median household income and per capita income voted Republicans while the Districts with lower income voted Democrats.

According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.[/quote]

sometimes selected presentation of facts is even worse than no facts at all. why focus on the Jews and Asians? why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?

[an]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=AN][quote=briansd1]Everything I wrote here is facts, not opinions; and I provided data to support my statements.[/quote]
I’d say, you’re light on facts and heavy on opinions. You tried to paint the picture than poor people vote republicans and rich people vote democrats.

Here are some data to disput your claim. San Diego political map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California
Go to the politics section. Although San Diego turned blue in 2008, the districts w/ higher median household income and per capita income voted Republicans while the Districts with lower income voted Democrats.

According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.[/quote]

sometimes selected presentation of facts is even worse than no facts at all. why focus on the Jews and Asians? why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?[/quote]
According to Brian, the answer would yes. It’s the stupid poor Vietnamese American and White American that don’t know what’s good for them.

[an]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=AN][quote=briansd1]Everything I wrote here is facts, not opinions; and I provided data to support my statements.[/quote]
I’d say, you’re light on facts and heavy on opinions. You tried to paint the picture than poor people vote republicans and rich people vote democrats.

Here are some data to disput your claim. San Diego political map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California
Go to the politics section. Although San Diego turned blue in 2008, the districts w/ higher median household income and per capita income voted Republicans while the Districts with lower income voted Democrats.

According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.[/quote]

sometimes selected presentation of facts is even worse than no facts at all. why focus on the Jews and Asians? why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?[/quote]
According to Brian, the answer would yes. It’s the stupid poor Vietnamese American and White American that don’t know what’s good for them.

[an]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=AN][quote=briansd1]Everything I wrote here is facts, not opinions; and I provided data to support my statements.[/quote]
I’d say, you’re light on facts and heavy on opinions. You tried to paint the picture than poor people vote republicans and rich people vote democrats.

Here are some data to disput your claim. San Diego political map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California
Go to the politics section. Although San Diego turned blue in 2008, the districts w/ higher median household income and per capita income voted Republicans while the Districts with lower income voted Democrats.

According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.[/quote]

sometimes selected presentation of facts is even worse than no facts at all. why focus on the Jews and Asians? why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?[/quote]
According to Brian, the answer would yes. It’s the stupid poor Vietnamese American and White American that don’t know what’s good for them.

[an]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=AN][quote=briansd1]Everything I wrote here is facts, not opinions; and I provided data to support my statements.[/quote]
I’d say, you’re light on facts and heavy on opinions. You tried to paint the picture than poor people vote republicans and rich people vote democrats.

Here are some data to disput your claim. San Diego political map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California
Go to the politics section. Although San Diego turned blue in 2008, the districts w/ higher median household income and per capita income voted Republicans while the Districts with lower income voted Democrats.

According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.[/quote]

sometimes selected presentation of facts is even worse than no facts at all. why focus on the Jews and Asians? why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?[/quote]
According to Brian, the answer would yes. It’s the stupid poor Vietnamese American and White American that don’t know what’s good for them.

[an]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=AN][quote=briansd1]Everything I wrote here is facts, not opinions; and I provided data to support my statements.[/quote]
I’d say, you’re light on facts and heavy on opinions. You tried to paint the picture than poor people vote republicans and rich people vote democrats.

Here are some data to disput your claim. San Diego political map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_County,_California
Go to the politics section. Although San Diego turned blue in 2008, the districts w/ higher median household income and per capita income voted Republicans while the Districts with lower income voted Democrats.

According to the Orange County Registrar of Voters, as of July 21, 2009, Orange County had 1,599,889 registered voters. Of these, 43.6% (698,140) are registered Republicans, and 32.1% (512,853) are registered Democrats. An additional 20.2% (324,669) declined to state a political party.[/quote]

sometimes selected presentation of facts is even worse than no facts at all. why focus on the Jews and Asians? why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?[/quote]
According to Brian, the answer would yes. It’s the stupid poor Vietnamese American and White American that don’t know what’s good for them.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]. why focus on the Jews and Asians?
why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
[/quote]

Yes, why not indeed.

Because the answer is self-explanatory.

[quote=ocrenter]
are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?[/quote]

Low-income Hispanics and Blacks vote Democratic because of the programs they depend on, programs that Democrats support. Makes perfect sense.

Perhaps low-income Hispanics and low-income Blacks see some things that low-income Whites and certain low-income Asians don’t see.

Arraya made an allusion to culture and wealth and power worship on different tread. With regard to Asians, perhaps one explanation is that some cultures are post-feudal and post-colonial. In those earlier times, kowtowing to power was a survival skill.

I’m focusing on Asians more because of Orange County. If the Vietnamese-American votes were more statistically evenly divided, and more in line with Asian-Americans in general, Orange County would have gone Democratic in 2008.

More generally, it’s clear that Republicans would never, ever, win presidential elections without the low-income Whites in the Red States. That’s why George Bush won the electoral votes and became President, whereas Al Gore got the popular vote but lost.

Those last two items are facts hard to deny.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]. why focus on the Jews and Asians?
why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
[/quote]

Yes, why not indeed.

Because the answer is self-explanatory.

[quote=ocrenter]
are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?[/quote]

Low-income Hispanics and Blacks vote Democratic because of the programs they depend on, programs that Democrats support. Makes perfect sense.

Perhaps low-income Hispanics and low-income Blacks see some things that low-income Whites and certain low-income Asians don’t see.

Arraya made an allusion to culture and wealth and power worship on different tread. With regard to Asians, perhaps one explanation is that some cultures are post-feudal and post-colonial. In those earlier times, kowtowing to power was a survival skill.

I’m focusing on Asians more because of Orange County. If the Vietnamese-American votes were more statistically evenly divided, and more in line with Asian-Americans in general, Orange County would have gone Democratic in 2008.

More generally, it’s clear that Republicans would never, ever, win presidential elections without the low-income Whites in the Red States. That’s why George Bush won the electoral votes and became President, whereas Al Gore got the popular vote but lost.

Those last two items are facts hard to deny.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]. why focus on the Jews and Asians?
why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
[/quote]

Yes, why not indeed.

Because the answer is self-explanatory.

[quote=ocrenter]
are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?[/quote]

Low-income Hispanics and Blacks vote Democratic because of the programs they depend on, programs that Democrats support. Makes perfect sense.

Perhaps low-income Hispanics and low-income Blacks see some things that low-income Whites and certain low-income Asians don’t see.

Arraya made an allusion to culture and wealth and power worship on different tread. With regard to Asians, perhaps one explanation is that some cultures are post-feudal and post-colonial. In those earlier times, kowtowing to power was a survival skill.

I’m focusing on Asians more because of Orange County. If the Vietnamese-American votes were more statistically evenly divided, and more in line with Asian-Americans in general, Orange County would have gone Democratic in 2008.

More generally, it’s clear that Republicans would never, ever, win presidential elections without the low-income Whites in the Red States. That’s why George Bush won the electoral votes and became President, whereas Al Gore got the popular vote but lost.

Those last two items are facts hard to deny.

[briansd1]

[quote=ocrenter]. why focus on the Jews and Asians?
why not focus on the fact that Hispanics and Blacks, both groups are poor, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
[/quote]

Yes, why not indeed.

Because the answer is self-explanatory.

[quote=ocrenter]
are we trying to say low income Hispanic and Black are more enlightened than low income white?[/quote]

Low-income Hispanics and Blacks vote Democratic because of the programs they depend on, programs that Democrats support. Makes perfect sense.

Perhaps low-income Hispanics and low-income Blacks see some things that low-income Whites and certain low-income Asians don’t see.

Arraya made an allusion to culture and wealth and power worship on different tread. With regard to Asians, perhaps one explanation is that some cultures are post-feudal and post-colonial. In those earlier times, kowtowing to power was a survival skill.

I’m focusing on Asians more because of Orange County. If the Vietnamese-American votes were more statistically evenly divided, and more in line with Asian-Americans in general, Orange County would have gone Democratic in 2008.

More generally, it’s clear that Republicans would never, ever, win presidential elections without the low-income Whites in the Red States. That’s why George Bush won the electoral votes and became President, whereas Al Gore got the popular vote but lost.

Those last two items are facts hard to deny.

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