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July 15, 2009 at 11:53 AM #431360July 15, 2009 at 12:05 PM #430634CascaParticipant
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Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.
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Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.
The whole thing is stupid.[/quote]
His mother was a minor, and thus not able to pass on her citizenship. Now pops was a British subject, and Kenyan, so Obama might be able to be PM, except that BO became an Indonesian when he was adopted by the only father he ever knew, Mr. Soetoro. Even if he had been born in Hawaii, he lost his claim to citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia.
July 15, 2009 at 12:05 PM #430851CascaParticipant[quote=IONEGARM][quote=Casca]
Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.
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Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.
The whole thing is stupid.[/quote]
His mother was a minor, and thus not able to pass on her citizenship. Now pops was a British subject, and Kenyan, so Obama might be able to be PM, except that BO became an Indonesian when he was adopted by the only father he ever knew, Mr. Soetoro. Even if he had been born in Hawaii, he lost his claim to citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia.
July 15, 2009 at 12:05 PM #431144CascaParticipant[quote=IONEGARM][quote=Casca]
Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.
[/quote]
Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.
The whole thing is stupid.[/quote]
His mother was a minor, and thus not able to pass on her citizenship. Now pops was a British subject, and Kenyan, so Obama might be able to be PM, except that BO became an Indonesian when he was adopted by the only father he ever knew, Mr. Soetoro. Even if he had been born in Hawaii, he lost his claim to citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia.
July 15, 2009 at 12:05 PM #431214CascaParticipant[quote=IONEGARM][quote=Casca]
Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.
[/quote]
Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.
The whole thing is stupid.[/quote]
His mother was a minor, and thus not able to pass on her citizenship. Now pops was a British subject, and Kenyan, so Obama might be able to be PM, except that BO became an Indonesian when he was adopted by the only father he ever knew, Mr. Soetoro. Even if he had been born in Hawaii, he lost his claim to citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia.
July 15, 2009 at 12:05 PM #431375CascaParticipant[quote=IONEGARM][quote=Casca]
Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.
[/quote]
Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.
The whole thing is stupid.[/quote]
His mother was a minor, and thus not able to pass on her citizenship. Now pops was a British subject, and Kenyan, so Obama might be able to be PM, except that BO became an Indonesian when he was adopted by the only father he ever knew, Mr. Soetoro. Even if he had been born in Hawaii, he lost his claim to citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia.
July 15, 2009 at 12:14 PM #430644IONEGARMParticipantI thought the moon landing being faked was the #1 stupidest conspiracy theory.
But really this just takes the cake.
July 15, 2009 at 12:14 PM #430860IONEGARMParticipantI thought the moon landing being faked was the #1 stupidest conspiracy theory.
But really this just takes the cake.
July 15, 2009 at 12:14 PM #431154IONEGARMParticipantI thought the moon landing being faked was the #1 stupidest conspiracy theory.
But really this just takes the cake.
July 15, 2009 at 12:14 PM #431224IONEGARMParticipantI thought the moon landing being faked was the #1 stupidest conspiracy theory.
But really this just takes the cake.
July 15, 2009 at 12:14 PM #431385IONEGARMParticipantI thought the moon landing being faked was the #1 stupidest conspiracy theory.
But really this just takes the cake.
July 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM #430659SDEngineerParticipant[quote=Casca][quote=IONEGARM][quote=Casca]
Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.
[/quote]
Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.
The whole thing is stupid.[/quote]
His mother was a minor, and thus not able to pass on her citizenship. Now pops was a British subject, and Kenyan, so Obama might be able to be PM, except that BO became an Indonesian when he was adopted by the only father he ever knew, Mr. Soetoro. Even if he had been born in Hawaii, he lost his claim to citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia.[/quote]
Huh? As far as I know, adoption by a foreign national does not strip a minor who is an American citizen by birth of citizenship. In fact, so far as I can find out, there is NO way for a minor born on U.S. soil to at least one American parent to lose that citizenship before their majority.
Here are the ways you can lose your citizenship:
1) serve in a foreign army which is “engaged in hostilities” against the USA.
2) commit treason.
3) renounce your citizenship formally.
4) apply for citizenship in another country, on purpose, of your own free will, and with the foreknowledge that you are giving up your US citizenshipNone of the above would ever be likely to apply to a minor, as minors are generally held to be unable to give informed consent, which all 4 above require.
July 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM #430875SDEngineerParticipant[quote=Casca][quote=IONEGARM][quote=Casca]
Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.
[/quote]
Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.
The whole thing is stupid.[/quote]
His mother was a minor, and thus not able to pass on her citizenship. Now pops was a British subject, and Kenyan, so Obama might be able to be PM, except that BO became an Indonesian when he was adopted by the only father he ever knew, Mr. Soetoro. Even if he had been born in Hawaii, he lost his claim to citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia.[/quote]
Huh? As far as I know, adoption by a foreign national does not strip a minor who is an American citizen by birth of citizenship. In fact, so far as I can find out, there is NO way for a minor born on U.S. soil to at least one American parent to lose that citizenship before their majority.
Here are the ways you can lose your citizenship:
1) serve in a foreign army which is “engaged in hostilities” against the USA.
2) commit treason.
3) renounce your citizenship formally.
4) apply for citizenship in another country, on purpose, of your own free will, and with the foreknowledge that you are giving up your US citizenshipNone of the above would ever be likely to apply to a minor, as minors are generally held to be unable to give informed consent, which all 4 above require.
July 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM #431169SDEngineerParticipant[quote=Casca][quote=IONEGARM][quote=Casca]
Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.
[/quote]
Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.
The whole thing is stupid.[/quote]
His mother was a minor, and thus not able to pass on her citizenship. Now pops was a British subject, and Kenyan, so Obama might be able to be PM, except that BO became an Indonesian when he was adopted by the only father he ever knew, Mr. Soetoro. Even if he had been born in Hawaii, he lost his claim to citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia.[/quote]
Huh? As far as I know, adoption by a foreign national does not strip a minor who is an American citizen by birth of citizenship. In fact, so far as I can find out, there is NO way for a minor born on U.S. soil to at least one American parent to lose that citizenship before their majority.
Here are the ways you can lose your citizenship:
1) serve in a foreign army which is “engaged in hostilities” against the USA.
2) commit treason.
3) renounce your citizenship formally.
4) apply for citizenship in another country, on purpose, of your own free will, and with the foreknowledge that you are giving up your US citizenshipNone of the above would ever be likely to apply to a minor, as minors are generally held to be unable to give informed consent, which all 4 above require.
July 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM #431239SDEngineerParticipant[quote=Casca][quote=IONEGARM][quote=Casca]
Obama’s Kenyan relatives claim he was born in Kenya, and that his mother flew home weeks after his birth, and obtained his certificate of live birth in Hawaii.
[/quote]
Ok lets assume he wasnt born in America, his mother is American and therefore he has citizenship from birth.
The whole thing is stupid.[/quote]
His mother was a minor, and thus not able to pass on her citizenship. Now pops was a British subject, and Kenyan, so Obama might be able to be PM, except that BO became an Indonesian when he was adopted by the only father he ever knew, Mr. Soetoro. Even if he had been born in Hawaii, he lost his claim to citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia.[/quote]
Huh? As far as I know, adoption by a foreign national does not strip a minor who is an American citizen by birth of citizenship. In fact, so far as I can find out, there is NO way for a minor born on U.S. soil to at least one American parent to lose that citizenship before their majority.
Here are the ways you can lose your citizenship:
1) serve in a foreign army which is “engaged in hostilities” against the USA.
2) commit treason.
3) renounce your citizenship formally.
4) apply for citizenship in another country, on purpose, of your own free will, and with the foreknowledge that you are giving up your US citizenshipNone of the above would ever be likely to apply to a minor, as minors are generally held to be unable to give informed consent, which all 4 above require.
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