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July 16, 2009 at 6:28 AM #432007July 16, 2009 at 7:36 AM #431278Allan from FallbrookParticipant
[quote=pabloesqobar]Who the hell volunteers for duty in Afghanistan, and a scant 2 months later decides to sue in federal court as a conscientious objector – based on the fact that he’s being ordered to go to Afghanistan? This guy should never go to Afghanistan. He should be discharged. I’m not exactly what type of discharge, but discharged nonetheless. This was a fabricated stunt orchestrated by the attorney.[/quote]
Pablo: At a minimum, you can make a strong case for CUBO (Conduct Unbecoming) and probably bootstrap into an Article 15. If you really wanted to throw the book at him, go Article 32 on his ass and see if you could make a case for a GCM (General Court Martial). This is a time of war and the punishments meted out for this sort of shit are generally stiffer. Of course, in this PC age, who knows? We have to think about his “feelings” and “motivations”.
I know how I’d handle it.
July 16, 2009 at 7:36 AM #431489Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pabloesqobar]Who the hell volunteers for duty in Afghanistan, and a scant 2 months later decides to sue in federal court as a conscientious objector – based on the fact that he’s being ordered to go to Afghanistan? This guy should never go to Afghanistan. He should be discharged. I’m not exactly what type of discharge, but discharged nonetheless. This was a fabricated stunt orchestrated by the attorney.[/quote]
Pablo: At a minimum, you can make a strong case for CUBO (Conduct Unbecoming) and probably bootstrap into an Article 15. If you really wanted to throw the book at him, go Article 32 on his ass and see if you could make a case for a GCM (General Court Martial). This is a time of war and the punishments meted out for this sort of shit are generally stiffer. Of course, in this PC age, who knows? We have to think about his “feelings” and “motivations”.
I know how I’d handle it.
July 16, 2009 at 7:36 AM #431782Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pabloesqobar]Who the hell volunteers for duty in Afghanistan, and a scant 2 months later decides to sue in federal court as a conscientious objector – based on the fact that he’s being ordered to go to Afghanistan? This guy should never go to Afghanistan. He should be discharged. I’m not exactly what type of discharge, but discharged nonetheless. This was a fabricated stunt orchestrated by the attorney.[/quote]
Pablo: At a minimum, you can make a strong case for CUBO (Conduct Unbecoming) and probably bootstrap into an Article 15. If you really wanted to throw the book at him, go Article 32 on his ass and see if you could make a case for a GCM (General Court Martial). This is a time of war and the punishments meted out for this sort of shit are generally stiffer. Of course, in this PC age, who knows? We have to think about his “feelings” and “motivations”.
I know how I’d handle it.
July 16, 2009 at 7:36 AM #431851Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pabloesqobar]Who the hell volunteers for duty in Afghanistan, and a scant 2 months later decides to sue in federal court as a conscientious objector – based on the fact that he’s being ordered to go to Afghanistan? This guy should never go to Afghanistan. He should be discharged. I’m not exactly what type of discharge, but discharged nonetheless. This was a fabricated stunt orchestrated by the attorney.[/quote]
Pablo: At a minimum, you can make a strong case for CUBO (Conduct Unbecoming) and probably bootstrap into an Article 15. If you really wanted to throw the book at him, go Article 32 on his ass and see if you could make a case for a GCM (General Court Martial). This is a time of war and the punishments meted out for this sort of shit are generally stiffer. Of course, in this PC age, who knows? We have to think about his “feelings” and “motivations”.
I know how I’d handle it.
July 16, 2009 at 7:36 AM #432012Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pabloesqobar]Who the hell volunteers for duty in Afghanistan, and a scant 2 months later decides to sue in federal court as a conscientious objector – based on the fact that he’s being ordered to go to Afghanistan? This guy should never go to Afghanistan. He should be discharged. I’m not exactly what type of discharge, but discharged nonetheless. This was a fabricated stunt orchestrated by the attorney.[/quote]
Pablo: At a minimum, you can make a strong case for CUBO (Conduct Unbecoming) and probably bootstrap into an Article 15. If you really wanted to throw the book at him, go Article 32 on his ass and see if you could make a case for a GCM (General Court Martial). This is a time of war and the punishments meted out for this sort of shit are generally stiffer. Of course, in this PC age, who knows? We have to think about his “feelings” and “motivations”.
I know how I’d handle it.
July 16, 2009 at 7:46 AM #431283Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk]Allan,
Side note: My understanding is that technically every commissioned officer is on IRR status for life. But it really doesn’t mean anything. If things were to get that bad, I’m sure everyone would become a potential conscript.[/quote]
Pri: I’m pretty sure you’re right. I went out under a medical discharge/honorable after a helo crash and I was told that, following my rehab, I was still on IRR for the five years immediately following. I’m still not sure what benefit I would have provided the Army at that point, but still.
Hey, and apropos of nothing: Have you ever been approached by either the Navy Reserve or the Coast Guard Reserve following your time in? As late as just a few years ago, I fielded calls from both to come in at same rank/privileges on the Reserve side. I fully explained my circumstances and they didn’t seem to care. Just curious.
July 16, 2009 at 7:46 AM #431494Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk]Allan,
Side note: My understanding is that technically every commissioned officer is on IRR status for life. But it really doesn’t mean anything. If things were to get that bad, I’m sure everyone would become a potential conscript.[/quote]
Pri: I’m pretty sure you’re right. I went out under a medical discharge/honorable after a helo crash and I was told that, following my rehab, I was still on IRR for the five years immediately following. I’m still not sure what benefit I would have provided the Army at that point, but still.
Hey, and apropos of nothing: Have you ever been approached by either the Navy Reserve or the Coast Guard Reserve following your time in? As late as just a few years ago, I fielded calls from both to come in at same rank/privileges on the Reserve side. I fully explained my circumstances and they didn’t seem to care. Just curious.
July 16, 2009 at 7:46 AM #431787Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk]Allan,
Side note: My understanding is that technically every commissioned officer is on IRR status for life. But it really doesn’t mean anything. If things were to get that bad, I’m sure everyone would become a potential conscript.[/quote]
Pri: I’m pretty sure you’re right. I went out under a medical discharge/honorable after a helo crash and I was told that, following my rehab, I was still on IRR for the five years immediately following. I’m still not sure what benefit I would have provided the Army at that point, but still.
Hey, and apropos of nothing: Have you ever been approached by either the Navy Reserve or the Coast Guard Reserve following your time in? As late as just a few years ago, I fielded calls from both to come in at same rank/privileges on the Reserve side. I fully explained my circumstances and they didn’t seem to care. Just curious.
July 16, 2009 at 7:46 AM #431856Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk]Allan,
Side note: My understanding is that technically every commissioned officer is on IRR status for life. But it really doesn’t mean anything. If things were to get that bad, I’m sure everyone would become a potential conscript.[/quote]
Pri: I’m pretty sure you’re right. I went out under a medical discharge/honorable after a helo crash and I was told that, following my rehab, I was still on IRR for the five years immediately following. I’m still not sure what benefit I would have provided the Army at that point, but still.
Hey, and apropos of nothing: Have you ever been approached by either the Navy Reserve or the Coast Guard Reserve following your time in? As late as just a few years ago, I fielded calls from both to come in at same rank/privileges on the Reserve side. I fully explained my circumstances and they didn’t seem to care. Just curious.
July 16, 2009 at 7:46 AM #432017Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=pri_dk]Allan,
Side note: My understanding is that technically every commissioned officer is on IRR status for life. But it really doesn’t mean anything. If things were to get that bad, I’m sure everyone would become a potential conscript.[/quote]
Pri: I’m pretty sure you’re right. I went out under a medical discharge/honorable after a helo crash and I was told that, following my rehab, I was still on IRR for the five years immediately following. I’m still not sure what benefit I would have provided the Army at that point, but still.
Hey, and apropos of nothing: Have you ever been approached by either the Navy Reserve or the Coast Guard Reserve following your time in? As late as just a few years ago, I fielded calls from both to come in at same rank/privileges on the Reserve side. I fully explained my circumstances and they didn’t seem to care. Just curious.
July 16, 2009 at 8:49 AM #431357dbapigParticipant[quote=pri_dk]
Obama has provided as much proof as any Presidential candidate ever has. So why is he being held to a different standard?[/quote]Because he has an African father. Sad I know.
July 16, 2009 at 8:49 AM #431566dbapigParticipant[quote=pri_dk]
Obama has provided as much proof as any Presidential candidate ever has. So why is he being held to a different standard?[/quote]Because he has an African father. Sad I know.
July 16, 2009 at 8:49 AM #431860dbapigParticipant[quote=pri_dk]
Obama has provided as much proof as any Presidential candidate ever has. So why is he being held to a different standard?[/quote]Because he has an African father. Sad I know.
July 16, 2009 at 8:49 AM #431929dbapigParticipant[quote=pri_dk]
Obama has provided as much proof as any Presidential candidate ever has. So why is he being held to a different standard?[/quote]Because he has an African father. Sad I know.
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