OT: LOL… All you folks that are trying to eat organic from places like Whole Foods….

[Shadowfax]

There is a difference between 1) cross polinating or animal husbandry (which I have always thought a strange term) and 2) genetic modification of foods–the former might occur in response to “natural” stimuli (and not always with beneficial results), the latter is the forced cross breeding of plants that might not be otherwise compatible, perhaps for very good reasons. We won’t know for sure for decades. We just aren’t very good at projections in this area.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=Shadowfax]There is a difference between 1) cross polinating or animal husbandry (which I have always thought a strange term) and 2) genetic modification of foods–the former might occur in response to “natural” stimuli (and not always with beneficial results), the latter is the forced cross breeding of plants that might not be otherwise compatible, perhaps for very good reasons. We won’t know for sure for decades. We just aren’t very good at projections in this area.[/quote]

True. The point I wanted to make is that people have a tendency to dismiss genetic modification offhand as something evil. Most of them do not realize that most food that they eat is already genetically modified by our forefathers through the process of hybridization (of course, in a natural way).

Then there is concern about GM crops contaminating non-GM crops. Somewhere in my head I imagine a wheat farmer of 20000BC who only plants “natural” wheat and worries that his crop will be contaminated by Durum variety….

When I was growing up, certain hybrid crops were introduced for the first time in my country. I remember people passionately arguing that (a) they don’t test good and (b) they are not good for health.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=Shadowfax]There is a difference between 1) cross polinating or animal husbandry (which I have always thought a strange term) and 2) genetic modification of foods–the former might occur in response to “natural” stimuli (and not always with beneficial results), the latter is the forced cross breeding of plants that might not be otherwise compatible, perhaps for very good reasons. We won’t know for sure for decades. We just aren’t very good at projections in this area.[/quote]

True. The point I wanted to make is that people have a tendency to dismiss genetic modification offhand as something evil. Most of them do not realize that most food that they eat is already genetically modified by our forefathers through the process of hybridization (of course, in a natural way).

Then there is concern about GM crops contaminating non-GM crops. Somewhere in my head I imagine a wheat farmer of 20000BC who only plants “natural” wheat and worries that his crop will be contaminated by Durum variety….

When I was growing up, certain hybrid crops were introduced for the first time in my country. I remember people passionately arguing that (a) they don’t test good and (b) they are not good for health.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=Shadowfax]There is a difference between 1) cross polinating or animal husbandry (which I have always thought a strange term) and 2) genetic modification of foods–the former might occur in response to “natural” stimuli (and not always with beneficial results), the latter is the forced cross breeding of plants that might not be otherwise compatible, perhaps for very good reasons. We won’t know for sure for decades. We just aren’t very good at projections in this area.[/quote]

True. The point I wanted to make is that people have a tendency to dismiss genetic modification offhand as something evil. Most of them do not realize that most food that they eat is already genetically modified by our forefathers through the process of hybridization (of course, in a natural way).

Then there is concern about GM crops contaminating non-GM crops. Somewhere in my head I imagine a wheat farmer of 20000BC who only plants “natural” wheat and worries that his crop will be contaminated by Durum variety….

When I was growing up, certain hybrid crops were introduced for the first time in my country. I remember people passionately arguing that (a) they don’t test good and (b) they are not good for health.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=Shadowfax]There is a difference between 1) cross polinating or animal husbandry (which I have always thought a strange term) and 2) genetic modification of foods–the former might occur in response to “natural” stimuli (and not always with beneficial results), the latter is the forced cross breeding of plants that might not be otherwise compatible, perhaps for very good reasons. We won’t know for sure for decades. We just aren’t very good at projections in this area.[/quote]

True. The point I wanted to make is that people have a tendency to dismiss genetic modification offhand as something evil. Most of them do not realize that most food that they eat is already genetically modified by our forefathers through the process of hybridization (of course, in a natural way).

Then there is concern about GM crops contaminating non-GM crops. Somewhere in my head I imagine a wheat farmer of 20000BC who only plants “natural” wheat and worries that his crop will be contaminated by Durum variety….

When I was growing up, certain hybrid crops were introduced for the first time in my country. I remember people passionately arguing that (a) they don’t test good and (b) they are not good for health.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=Shadowfax]There is a difference between 1) cross polinating or animal husbandry (which I have always thought a strange term) and 2) genetic modification of foods–the former might occur in response to “natural” stimuli (and not always with beneficial results), the latter is the forced cross breeding of plants that might not be otherwise compatible, perhaps for very good reasons. We won’t know for sure for decades. We just aren’t very good at projections in this area.[/quote]

True. The point I wanted to make is that people have a tendency to dismiss genetic modification offhand as something evil. Most of them do not realize that most food that they eat is already genetically modified by our forefathers through the process of hybridization (of course, in a natural way).

Then there is concern about GM crops contaminating non-GM crops. Somewhere in my head I imagine a wheat farmer of 20000BC who only plants “natural” wheat and worries that his crop will be contaminated by Durum variety….

When I was growing up, certain hybrid crops were introduced for the first time in my country. I remember people passionately arguing that (a) they don’t test good and (b) they are not good for health.

[briansd1]

[quote=Shadowfax]Oh, and maybe this is all moot: the GMO/natural debate is pointless if Americans can’t wean ourselves off McDonald’s Super Sized everything. Any health benefits between organic and GMO produce are de minimis in the diets of most Americans who don’t eat much fresh food anyway.

But for those who do, at least you won’t die from cancer from that source. But how pure is the air you breathe, the water you drink, how safe is your car, or your living environment. Something will get each of us someday. You can only rule out so many variables.[/quote]

I absolutely agree.

I have a challenge with a friend who’s getting fat in middle age. I said follow my advice and you’ll lose weight. And she can’t even do it.

The challenge was very simple: don’t eat anything that you don’t prepare or heat up, put on plate and eat sitting down at the dining table. Even if you eat pizza, place the proper portion on a plate then sit down and eat it. Once you’re done, there’s no more eating until the next meal.

[briansd1]

[quote=Shadowfax]Oh, and maybe this is all moot: the GMO/natural debate is pointless if Americans can’t wean ourselves off McDonald’s Super Sized everything. Any health benefits between organic and GMO produce are de minimis in the diets of most Americans who don’t eat much fresh food anyway.

But for those who do, at least you won’t die from cancer from that source. But how pure is the air you breathe, the water you drink, how safe is your car, or your living environment. Something will get each of us someday. You can only rule out so many variables.[/quote]

I absolutely agree.

I have a challenge with a friend who’s getting fat in middle age. I said follow my advice and you’ll lose weight. And she can’t even do it.

The challenge was very simple: don’t eat anything that you don’t prepare or heat up, put on plate and eat sitting down at the dining table. Even if you eat pizza, place the proper portion on a plate then sit down and eat it. Once you’re done, there’s no more eating until the next meal.

[briansd1]

[quote=Shadowfax]Oh, and maybe this is all moot: the GMO/natural debate is pointless if Americans can’t wean ourselves off McDonald’s Super Sized everything. Any health benefits between organic and GMO produce are de minimis in the diets of most Americans who don’t eat much fresh food anyway.

But for those who do, at least you won’t die from cancer from that source. But how pure is the air you breathe, the water you drink, how safe is your car, or your living environment. Something will get each of us someday. You can only rule out so many variables.[/quote]

I absolutely agree.

I have a challenge with a friend who’s getting fat in middle age. I said follow my advice and you’ll lose weight. And she can’t even do it.

The challenge was very simple: don’t eat anything that you don’t prepare or heat up, put on plate and eat sitting down at the dining table. Even if you eat pizza, place the proper portion on a plate then sit down and eat it. Once you’re done, there’s no more eating until the next meal.

[briansd1]

[quote=Shadowfax]Oh, and maybe this is all moot: the GMO/natural debate is pointless if Americans can’t wean ourselves off McDonald’s Super Sized everything. Any health benefits between organic and GMO produce are de minimis in the diets of most Americans who don’t eat much fresh food anyway.

But for those who do, at least you won’t die from cancer from that source. But how pure is the air you breathe, the water you drink, how safe is your car, or your living environment. Something will get each of us someday. You can only rule out so many variables.[/quote]

I absolutely agree.

I have a challenge with a friend who’s getting fat in middle age. I said follow my advice and you’ll lose weight. And she can’t even do it.

The challenge was very simple: don’t eat anything that you don’t prepare or heat up, put on plate and eat sitting down at the dining table. Even if you eat pizza, place the proper portion on a plate then sit down and eat it. Once you’re done, there’s no more eating until the next meal.

[briansd1]

[quote=Shadowfax]Oh, and maybe this is all moot: the GMO/natural debate is pointless if Americans can’t wean ourselves off McDonald’s Super Sized everything. Any health benefits between organic and GMO produce are de minimis in the diets of most Americans who don’t eat much fresh food anyway.

But for those who do, at least you won’t die from cancer from that source. But how pure is the air you breathe, the water you drink, how safe is your car, or your living environment. Something will get each of us someday. You can only rule out so many variables.[/quote]

I absolutely agree.

I have a challenge with a friend who’s getting fat in middle age. I said follow my advice and you’ll lose weight. And she can’t even do it.

The challenge was very simple: don’t eat anything that you don’t prepare or heat up, put on plate and eat sitting down at the dining table. Even if you eat pizza, place the proper portion on a plate then sit down and eat it. Once you’re done, there’s no more eating until the next meal.

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[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

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