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February 4, 2011 at 11:39 AM #663842February 4, 2011 at 1:19 PM #662732
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Participant[quote=davelj]
[That is, I’m assuming that the genetic modification increases yields in some way, shape or form… which means more food… which means less starvation and/or more inexpensive food. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Again, I have little doubt that folks starving in Africa are up in arms about “Frankenfood” – anything with “food” in it will be an improvement.][/quote]In India, a country no stranger to hunger, farmers have been committing suicide en masse because their farms and livelihoods have been destroyed after switching to GMO crops. Tens of thousands of Indian farmers have killed themselves so far after falling into debts brought on by poor-yielding GMO seeds that must be repurchased each planting season. Prince Charles has been working to bring this horrific situation into the public eye for years, but to little effect in the USA, apparently.
As a side note, Prince Charles has long championed sustainable and organic agriculture practices and even tends his own organic garden.
February 4, 2011 at 1:19 PM #662794Participant[quote=davelj]
[That is, I’m assuming that the genetic modification increases yields in some way, shape or form… which means more food… which means less starvation and/or more inexpensive food. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Again, I have little doubt that folks starving in Africa are up in arms about “Frankenfood” – anything with “food” in it will be an improvement.][/quote]In India, a country no stranger to hunger, farmers have been committing suicide en masse because their farms and livelihoods have been destroyed after switching to GMO crops. Tens of thousands of Indian farmers have killed themselves so far after falling into debts brought on by poor-yielding GMO seeds that must be repurchased each planting season. Prince Charles has been working to bring this horrific situation into the public eye for years, but to little effect in the USA, apparently.
As a side note, Prince Charles has long championed sustainable and organic agriculture practices and even tends his own organic garden.
February 4, 2011 at 1:19 PM #663398Participant[quote=davelj]
[That is, I’m assuming that the genetic modification increases yields in some way, shape or form… which means more food… which means less starvation and/or more inexpensive food. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Again, I have little doubt that folks starving in Africa are up in arms about “Frankenfood” – anything with “food” in it will be an improvement.][/quote]In India, a country no stranger to hunger, farmers have been committing suicide en masse because their farms and livelihoods have been destroyed after switching to GMO crops. Tens of thousands of Indian farmers have killed themselves so far after falling into debts brought on by poor-yielding GMO seeds that must be repurchased each planting season. Prince Charles has been working to bring this horrific situation into the public eye for years, but to little effect in the USA, apparently.
As a side note, Prince Charles has long championed sustainable and organic agriculture practices and even tends his own organic garden.
February 4, 2011 at 1:19 PM #663534Participant[quote=davelj]
[That is, I’m assuming that the genetic modification increases yields in some way, shape or form… which means more food… which means less starvation and/or more inexpensive food. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Again, I have little doubt that folks starving in Africa are up in arms about “Frankenfood” – anything with “food” in it will be an improvement.][/quote]In India, a country no stranger to hunger, farmers have been committing suicide en masse because their farms and livelihoods have been destroyed after switching to GMO crops. Tens of thousands of Indian farmers have killed themselves so far after falling into debts brought on by poor-yielding GMO seeds that must be repurchased each planting season. Prince Charles has been working to bring this horrific situation into the public eye for years, but to little effect in the USA, apparently.
As a side note, Prince Charles has long championed sustainable and organic agriculture practices and even tends his own organic garden.
February 4, 2011 at 1:19 PM #663872Participant[quote=davelj]
[That is, I’m assuming that the genetic modification increases yields in some way, shape or form… which means more food… which means less starvation and/or more inexpensive food. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Again, I have little doubt that folks starving in Africa are up in arms about “Frankenfood” – anything with “food” in it will be an improvement.][/quote]In India, a country no stranger to hunger, farmers have been committing suicide en masse because their farms and livelihoods have been destroyed after switching to GMO crops. Tens of thousands of Indian farmers have killed themselves so far after falling into debts brought on by poor-yielding GMO seeds that must be repurchased each planting season. Prince Charles has been working to bring this horrific situation into the public eye for years, but to little effect in the USA, apparently.
As a side note, Prince Charles has long championed sustainable and organic agriculture practices and even tends his own organic garden.
February 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM #662767davelj
Participant[quote=CONCHO][quote=davelj]
[That is, I’m assuming that the genetic modification increases yields in some way, shape or form… which means more food… which means less starvation and/or more inexpensive food. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Again, I have little doubt that folks starving in Africa are up in arms about “Frankenfood” – anything with “food” in it will be an improvement.][/quote]In India, a country no stranger to hunger, farmers have been committing suicide en masse because their farms and livelihoods have been destroyed after switching to GMO crops. Tens of thousands of Indian farmers have killed themselves so far after falling into debts brought on by poor-yielding GMO seeds that must be repurchased each planting season. Prince Charles has been working to bring this horrific situation into the public eye for years, but to little effect in the USA, apparently.
As a side note, Prince Charles has long championed sustainable and organic agriculture practices and even tends his own organic garden.[/quote]
I’m no expert on this by a long shot… but are you suggesting that going all-organic would increase crop yields around the globe? In other words, if we abandoned GMO, fertilizers, etc. – all of the “bad” stuff – would the resulting yields not decline on an aggregate basis?
February 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM #662829Participant[quote=CONCHO][quote=davelj]
[That is, I’m assuming that the genetic modification increases yields in some way, shape or form… which means more food… which means less starvation and/or more inexpensive food. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Again, I have little doubt that folks starving in Africa are up in arms about “Frankenfood” – anything with “food” in it will be an improvement.][/quote]In India, a country no stranger to hunger, farmers have been committing suicide en masse because their farms and livelihoods have been destroyed after switching to GMO crops. Tens of thousands of Indian farmers have killed themselves so far after falling into debts brought on by poor-yielding GMO seeds that must be repurchased each planting season. Prince Charles has been working to bring this horrific situation into the public eye for years, but to little effect in the USA, apparently.
As a side note, Prince Charles has long championed sustainable and organic agriculture practices and even tends his own organic garden.[/quote]
I’m no expert on this by a long shot… but are you suggesting that going all-organic would increase crop yields around the globe? In other words, if we abandoned GMO, fertilizers, etc. – all of the “bad” stuff – would the resulting yields not decline on an aggregate basis?
February 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM #663433Participant[quote=CONCHO][quote=davelj]
[That is, I’m assuming that the genetic modification increases yields in some way, shape or form… which means more food… which means less starvation and/or more inexpensive food. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Again, I have little doubt that folks starving in Africa are up in arms about “Frankenfood” – anything with “food” in it will be an improvement.][/quote]In India, a country no stranger to hunger, farmers have been committing suicide en masse because their farms and livelihoods have been destroyed after switching to GMO crops. Tens of thousands of Indian farmers have killed themselves so far after falling into debts brought on by poor-yielding GMO seeds that must be repurchased each planting season. Prince Charles has been working to bring this horrific situation into the public eye for years, but to little effect in the USA, apparently.
As a side note, Prince Charles has long championed sustainable and organic agriculture practices and even tends his own organic garden.[/quote]
I’m no expert on this by a long shot… but are you suggesting that going all-organic would increase crop yields around the globe? In other words, if we abandoned GMO, fertilizers, etc. – all of the “bad” stuff – would the resulting yields not decline on an aggregate basis?
February 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM #663569Participant[quote=CONCHO][quote=davelj]
[That is, I’m assuming that the genetic modification increases yields in some way, shape or form… which means more food… which means less starvation and/or more inexpensive food. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Again, I have little doubt that folks starving in Africa are up in arms about “Frankenfood” – anything with “food” in it will be an improvement.][/quote]In India, a country no stranger to hunger, farmers have been committing suicide en masse because their farms and livelihoods have been destroyed after switching to GMO crops. Tens of thousands of Indian farmers have killed themselves so far after falling into debts brought on by poor-yielding GMO seeds that must be repurchased each planting season. Prince Charles has been working to bring this horrific situation into the public eye for years, but to little effect in the USA, apparently.
As a side note, Prince Charles has long championed sustainable and organic agriculture practices and even tends his own organic garden.[/quote]
I’m no expert on this by a long shot… but are you suggesting that going all-organic would increase crop yields around the globe? In other words, if we abandoned GMO, fertilizers, etc. – all of the “bad” stuff – would the resulting yields not decline on an aggregate basis?
February 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM #663907Participant[quote=CONCHO][quote=davelj]
[That is, I’m assuming that the genetic modification increases yields in some way, shape or form… which means more food… which means less starvation and/or more inexpensive food. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Again, I have little doubt that folks starving in Africa are up in arms about “Frankenfood” – anything with “food” in it will be an improvement.][/quote]In India, a country no stranger to hunger, farmers have been committing suicide en masse because their farms and livelihoods have been destroyed after switching to GMO crops. Tens of thousands of Indian farmers have killed themselves so far after falling into debts brought on by poor-yielding GMO seeds that must be repurchased each planting season. Prince Charles has been working to bring this horrific situation into the public eye for years, but to little effect in the USA, apparently.
As a side note, Prince Charles has long championed sustainable and organic agriculture practices and even tends his own organic garden.[/quote]
I’m no expert on this by a long shot… but are you suggesting that going all-organic would increase crop yields around the globe? In other words, if we abandoned GMO, fertilizers, etc. – all of the “bad” stuff – would the resulting yields not decline on an aggregate basis?
February 4, 2011 at 2:50 PM #662797Participant[quote=davelj]
I’m no expert on this by a long shot… but are you suggesting that going all-organic would increase crop yields around the globe? In other words, if we abandoned GMO, fertilizers, etc. – all of the “bad” stuff – would the resulting yields not decline on an aggregate basis?[/quote]There are scores of different crops in scores of different types of farms around the world. High-tech solutions will probably work well in certain environments, not so well in others. Seems like the high-tech stuff isn’t working well in India for whatever reason. There’s not going to be any one answer on how to feed 7 billion people, if it’s even possible at all.
February 4, 2011 at 2:50 PM #662859Participant[quote=davelj]
I’m no expert on this by a long shot… but are you suggesting that going all-organic would increase crop yields around the globe? In other words, if we abandoned GMO, fertilizers, etc. – all of the “bad” stuff – would the resulting yields not decline on an aggregate basis?[/quote]There are scores of different crops in scores of different types of farms around the world. High-tech solutions will probably work well in certain environments, not so well in others. Seems like the high-tech stuff isn’t working well in India for whatever reason. There’s not going to be any one answer on how to feed 7 billion people, if it’s even possible at all.
February 4, 2011 at 2:50 PM #663462Participant[quote=davelj]
I’m no expert on this by a long shot… but are you suggesting that going all-organic would increase crop yields around the globe? In other words, if we abandoned GMO, fertilizers, etc. – all of the “bad” stuff – would the resulting yields not decline on an aggregate basis?[/quote]There are scores of different crops in scores of different types of farms around the world. High-tech solutions will probably work well in certain environments, not so well in others. Seems like the high-tech stuff isn’t working well in India for whatever reason. There’s not going to be any one answer on how to feed 7 billion people, if it’s even possible at all.
February 4, 2011 at 2:50 PM #663599Participant[quote=davelj]
I’m no expert on this by a long shot… but are you suggesting that going all-organic would increase crop yields around the globe? In other words, if we abandoned GMO, fertilizers, etc. – all of the “bad” stuff – would the resulting yields not decline on an aggregate basis?[/quote]There are scores of different crops in scores of different types of farms around the world. High-tech solutions will probably work well in certain environments, not so well in others. Seems like the high-tech stuff isn’t working well in India for whatever reason. There’s not going to be any one answer on how to feed 7 billion people, if it’s even possible at all.
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