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February 9, 2016 at 1:05 PM #794147February 9, 2016 at 1:14 PM #794148
FlyerInHi
Guest[quote=spdrun]I smell a troll.[/quote]
Seriously now, I’m surprised at the 180 the country is making.
When the country was talking tough, I was thinking: I bet you will be crying “save me”, “save my child” when it happens to you. Those of us who were prescient have not been thanked or been given enough credit.
I have a close friend who’s a functional addict; and we’ve not talked in almost 2 years because I let him have some of his own logic. But I have seen how addiction can slowly take down an intelligent person who had everything going for him.
February 9, 2016 at 1:15 PM #794149Guest[quote=bearishgurl][quote=Blogstar]. . . I would bet my liver that that’s where many middle class san diego opioid addicts get their fixes. . . . [/quote]Every . single . opioid addict I have known was still attempting to hold down a FT job in which they made $60-$120K annually (but calling in “sick” a lot). All had seniority at their workplaces and had worked there an average of about 17 years.
They weren’t “crack addicts” on the street. All but one were established homeowners.[/quote]
And shouldn’t those people live to experience the laws that they helped pass?
February 9, 2016 at 1:21 PM #794150Guest[quote=Blogstar]Gotta use my health insurance to go to rehab to get off subscription addiction that my health insurance funds. Can I pass on that and just get a less expensive education for my kid?[/quote]
I kinda like the health savings account proposed by Ben Carson. Everyone gets one from birth. It’s up to you to manage it. If you go over, then tough luck. Buy your own additional insurance if you think you need more.
February 9, 2016 at 1:55 PM #794152Guest[quote=scaredyclassic]Did u catch the opioid constipation medication commercial on the superbowl? Hilarious! How many constipated dope fiends are there in the nation that this commercial pays off???!!!
Cray cray[/quote]
haha, I missed it. Here it is:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/opioid-addiction-obamas-eye-5m-210600315.htmlThe drug is Movantik. There are so many drugs now. Seems like the drug companies are the biggest advertisers on prime time these days.
February 9, 2016 at 2:42 PM #794153bearishgurl
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=scaredyclassic]Did u catch the opioid constipation medication commercial on the superbowl? Hilarious! How many constipated dope fiends are there in the nation that this commercial pays off???!!!
Cray cray[/quote]
haha, I missed it. Here it is:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/opioid-addiction-obamas-eye-5m-210600315.htmlThe drug is Movantik. There are so many drugs now. Seems like the drug companies are the biggest advertisers on prime time these days.[/quote]I did not watch the Super Bowl but Good L@rd, that was one of the most ridiculous commercials I have ever seen!
It’s totally sending the wrong message to a vulnerable population. In short, this group needs to get OFF opioids and take up a much more holistic lifestyle, including mind-body exercise classes and revamping their diets to eventually eliminate all processed foods. After they have successfully detoxed, they can take up more strenuous exercise, such as weightlifting and cardio.
If these addicts can successfully stay off opioids and substitute that habit for the above, they will undoubtedly feel like a new person by the end of the their first (sober) year.
February 9, 2016 at 3:13 PM #794154Guest[quote=bearishgurl]
I did not watch the Super Bowl but Good L@rd, that was one of the most ridiculous commercials I have ever seen!It’s totally sending the wrong message to a vulnerable population. In short, this group needs to get OFF opioids and take up a much more holistic lifestyle, including mind-body exercise classes and revamping their diets to eventually eliminate all processed foods. After they have successfully detoxed, they can take up more strenuous exercise, such as weightlifting and cardio.
If these addicts can successfully stay off opioids and substitute that habit for the above, they will undoubtedly feel like a new person by the end of the their first (sober) year.[/quote]
Yes… Sounds too logical.
When I told my friend this exact same thing, the response was “you’re talking out of your ass.”
People who are obese want to work out at the gym while eating the same things. They think that adding protein shakes and working out vigorously will do the trick. After the work out they are dead tired which causes them to binge eat, drink and pop more pain killers.
Like you said, you cannot talk sense into addicts.
February 9, 2016 at 3:52 PM #794155Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=bearishgurl]
I did not watch the Super Bowl but Good L@rd, that was one of the most ridiculous commercials I have ever seen!It’s totally sending the wrong message to a vulnerable population. In short, this group needs to get OFF opioids and take up a much more holistic lifestyle, including mind-body exercise classes and revamping their diets to eventually eliminate all processed foods. After they have successfully detoxed, they can take up more strenuous exercise, such as weightlifting and cardio.
If these addicts can successfully stay off opioids and substitute that habit for the above, they will undoubtedly feel like a new person by the end of the their first (sober) year.[/quote]
Yes… Sounds too logical.
When I told my friend this exact same thing, the response was “you’re talking out of your ass.”
People who are obese want to work out at the gym while eating the same things. They think that adding protein shakes and working out vigorously will do the trick. After the work out they are dead tired which causes them to binge eat, drink and pop more pain killers.
Like you said, you cannot talk sense into addicts.[/quote]I have found that you can’t win a “popularity contest” with these addicts and shouldn’t worry about being shunned by them. SOMEONE needs to say these things to them instead of constantly enabling them.
I noticed that the “protanogist” in the Movantik commercial was pouring straight sugar on his coffee at the breakfast counter … and he was apparently just starting his day! I believe that a diet of excessive sugar (as well as excessive starch-turned-to-sugar) is the root of so many evils including the root cause of and cause of rapid spread of several gastrointestinal cancers. You can tell me I am talking out my a$$ and I will tell you to fuel your own “sugar addiction” at your peril :=0
February 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM #794156ParticipantWow, NH is just a (geographically) small state of 1.3M and its residents apparently have a HUGE opioid overdose problem …
… which their State Police lab can’t even keep up with. I’ve seen “bucolic” fall pictures of NH and it “seems” like it would be a nice, peaceful place to live.
What went wrong? Why is a good portion of that population so depressed that they resort to (legal and illegal) opioids?
This is such a shame.
February 9, 2016 at 6:41 PM #794157flyer
ParticipantThis particular addiction is at unprecedented levels, and across every social and economic strata. Have personally known a couple of kids my kids grew up with who are gone. Both seemed to be lost souls after college, and even with treatment, they relapsed. There were huge performance demands from the families, among other issues.
Imo, this is a very sad commentary on the state of society, when, even long after treating the physical pain, huge numbers of people are seeking out drugs to fill an emptiness within from which they feel there is no other escape.
February 9, 2016 at 7:31 PM #794158Participant[quote=flyer]This particular addiction is at unprecedented levels, and across every social and economic strata. Have personally known a couple of kids my kids grew up with who are gone. Both seemed to be lost souls after college, and even with treatment, they relapsed. There were huge performance demands from the families, among other issues.
Imo, this is a very sad commentary on the state of society, when, even long after treating the physical pain, huge numbers of people are seeking out drugs to fill an emptiness within from which they feel there is no other escape.[/quote]Agree flyer. Even people whom I thought were multi-talented and had everything going for them.
The (very bureaucratic) CA Worker’s Comp system is also part of the problem, IMO, as are most of the physicians who work within it. Even with qualified counsel, it can take 6-8 years to settle a serious worker’s comp injury, all the while the “applicant” is still on pain meds, is NOT rehabbing and NOT able to return to work or retrain (if appropriate). It’s a travesty.
February 9, 2016 at 7:42 PM #794159scaredyclassic
Participantfor me, constipation would be enough to get me off the dope. I find constipation nonnegotiable. in my view, laying down beautiful deuce is the ultimate pleasure in life. Better than an orgasm. Better than drugs or alcohol. Better than exercise.
it is just the sweetest most wonderful feeling int he world. you approach the toilet all anxious and backed up, and you leave, well, perfect. it’s better than sex in its utter refreshment. no drug compares with that incredible relief.
Poops, not drugs.
February 9, 2016 at 7:44 PM #794160Participantdon’t get me wrong. i like to pee. in fact, this great poem by garrison keillor speaks directly to my fondness for urination.
O what a luxury it be
how exquisite, what perfect bliss
so ordinary and yet chic
to pee to piss to take a leakTo feel your bladder just go free
and open like the Mighty Miss
and all your cares go down the creek
to pee to piss to take a leakfor gentlemen of great physique
who can hold water for one week
for ladies who one-quarter cup
of tea can fill completely up
for folks in urinalysis
for Viennese and Greek and Swiss
for little kids just learning this
for everyone it’s pretty great
to urinate
women are quite circumspect
but men can piss with great effect
with terrible hydraulic force
can make a stream or change its course
can put out fires or cigarettes
and sometimes
laying down our bets
late at night outside the bars
we like to aim up at the starsYes for men it’s much more grand
women sit or sqat
we stand
and hold the fellow in our hand
and proudly watch the yellow arc
adjust the range and make our mark
on stones and posts for rival men
to smell and not come back againFebruary 9, 2016 at 7:46 PM #794161Participantjust for me, pooping > peeing
February 9, 2016 at 7:55 PM #794162Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]don’t get me wrong. i like to pee. in fact, this great poem by garrison keillor speaks directly to my fondness for urination.
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I understand, scaredy. I’m sure you’re aware not to overtax your pancreas with a diet of excessive refined sugar and excessive 100-proof alcohol. If cancer just so happens to develop and originate within it, your kidneys and/or their “transportation system” will likely be one of the first organs to be blocked by tumor, causing you to be permanently catheterized. It all goes downhill from there . . . faster than you can imagine. The really sad part is . . . you very likely won’t even know about any of this until it is too late to do anything about it.
Just a FYI …
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