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April 6, 2010 at 12:24 PM #537131April 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM #536224jeemanParticipant
fredo,
No way in hell would I let my daughter dance in this. Cabarets are meant to be sexually suggestive. Anyone who thinks this is ok, should also think non-stripping pole dancing for 9 year olds is ok as well. This is effectively that, without the pole.
April 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM #536351jeemanParticipantfredo,
No way in hell would I let my daughter dance in this. Cabarets are meant to be sexually suggestive. Anyone who thinks this is ok, should also think non-stripping pole dancing for 9 year olds is ok as well. This is effectively that, without the pole.
April 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM #536805jeemanParticipantfredo,
No way in hell would I let my daughter dance in this. Cabarets are meant to be sexually suggestive. Anyone who thinks this is ok, should also think non-stripping pole dancing for 9 year olds is ok as well. This is effectively that, without the pole.
April 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM #536903jeemanParticipantfredo,
No way in hell would I let my daughter dance in this. Cabarets are meant to be sexually suggestive. Anyone who thinks this is ok, should also think non-stripping pole dancing for 9 year olds is ok as well. This is effectively that, without the pole.
April 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM #537166jeemanParticipantfredo,
No way in hell would I let my daughter dance in this. Cabarets are meant to be sexually suggestive. Anyone who thinks this is ok, should also think non-stripping pole dancing for 9 year olds is ok as well. This is effectively that, without the pole.
April 6, 2010 at 1:09 PM #536234SD RealtorParticipantTough to call flu… seems okay with me what you told her. My boys get pretty rough with each other. However there is plenty of “I am not your friend.” or “I am not talking to him” between the two of them so that particular stuff is not confined to girls.
We have found ATA martial arts to be fantastic. Not as much for the karate as for the group dynamic. The kids have alot of fun there. For the little ones it is much more about just learning concepts rather then martial arts. They play a little dodge ball, run around, and learn different keywords each month like confidence, respect, and other like concepts as well. They also focus on stranger danger which is great.
Lots of little ones, boys and girls in the classes. We go to the one in Poway which has a great instructor but most of them probably do.
April 6, 2010 at 1:09 PM #536361SD RealtorParticipantTough to call flu… seems okay with me what you told her. My boys get pretty rough with each other. However there is plenty of “I am not your friend.” or “I am not talking to him” between the two of them so that particular stuff is not confined to girls.
We have found ATA martial arts to be fantastic. Not as much for the karate as for the group dynamic. The kids have alot of fun there. For the little ones it is much more about just learning concepts rather then martial arts. They play a little dodge ball, run around, and learn different keywords each month like confidence, respect, and other like concepts as well. They also focus on stranger danger which is great.
Lots of little ones, boys and girls in the classes. We go to the one in Poway which has a great instructor but most of them probably do.
April 6, 2010 at 1:09 PM #536815SD RealtorParticipantTough to call flu… seems okay with me what you told her. My boys get pretty rough with each other. However there is plenty of “I am not your friend.” or “I am not talking to him” between the two of them so that particular stuff is not confined to girls.
We have found ATA martial arts to be fantastic. Not as much for the karate as for the group dynamic. The kids have alot of fun there. For the little ones it is much more about just learning concepts rather then martial arts. They play a little dodge ball, run around, and learn different keywords each month like confidence, respect, and other like concepts as well. They also focus on stranger danger which is great.
Lots of little ones, boys and girls in the classes. We go to the one in Poway which has a great instructor but most of them probably do.
April 6, 2010 at 1:09 PM #536913SD RealtorParticipantTough to call flu… seems okay with me what you told her. My boys get pretty rough with each other. However there is plenty of “I am not your friend.” or “I am not talking to him” between the two of them so that particular stuff is not confined to girls.
We have found ATA martial arts to be fantastic. Not as much for the karate as for the group dynamic. The kids have alot of fun there. For the little ones it is much more about just learning concepts rather then martial arts. They play a little dodge ball, run around, and learn different keywords each month like confidence, respect, and other like concepts as well. They also focus on stranger danger which is great.
Lots of little ones, boys and girls in the classes. We go to the one in Poway which has a great instructor but most of them probably do.
April 6, 2010 at 1:09 PM #537176SD RealtorParticipantTough to call flu… seems okay with me what you told her. My boys get pretty rough with each other. However there is plenty of “I am not your friend.” or “I am not talking to him” between the two of them so that particular stuff is not confined to girls.
We have found ATA martial arts to be fantastic. Not as much for the karate as for the group dynamic. The kids have alot of fun there. For the little ones it is much more about just learning concepts rather then martial arts. They play a little dodge ball, run around, and learn different keywords each month like confidence, respect, and other like concepts as well. They also focus on stranger danger which is great.
Lots of little ones, boys and girls in the classes. We go to the one in Poway which has a great instructor but most of them probably do.
April 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM #5362548bitnintendoParticipant[quote=flu]See, what I’m seeing is that if boys don’t like each other, they get kinda physical and start pushing each other around or hitting each other. When girls (inclusive of my kid) don’t like each other, they start saying stuff like “I’m not going to be your friend/we’re not going to talk to you.”… Is that consistent with what other parents see?[/quote]
Caveat: I am not a parent. But girls are generally discouraged from expressing aggression and anger overtly, which leaves covert bullying of the kind you describe (manipulation, and using exclusion from friendships as punishment.) Boys who get in physical fights get punished to some degree by parents or the school administration, but it is not treated as beyond the pale as much as physical altercations between girls would be… it is almost expected that boys will get in shoving matches and occasional fights.If you’re interested in reading about this sort of thing, “Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Culture of Aggression in Girls” wasn’t bad (but a bit disorganized, and didn’t provide much discussion of productive ways of dealing with girl bullies.) http://www.amazon.com/Odd-Girl-Out-Culture-Aggression/dp/B0013L2DZ0 I’ve actually got a copy if you want to borrow it.
April 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM #5363818bitnintendoParticipant[quote=flu]See, what I’m seeing is that if boys don’t like each other, they get kinda physical and start pushing each other around or hitting each other. When girls (inclusive of my kid) don’t like each other, they start saying stuff like “I’m not going to be your friend/we’re not going to talk to you.”… Is that consistent with what other parents see?[/quote]
Caveat: I am not a parent. But girls are generally discouraged from expressing aggression and anger overtly, which leaves covert bullying of the kind you describe (manipulation, and using exclusion from friendships as punishment.) Boys who get in physical fights get punished to some degree by parents or the school administration, but it is not treated as beyond the pale as much as physical altercations between girls would be… it is almost expected that boys will get in shoving matches and occasional fights.If you’re interested in reading about this sort of thing, “Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Culture of Aggression in Girls” wasn’t bad (but a bit disorganized, and didn’t provide much discussion of productive ways of dealing with girl bullies.) http://www.amazon.com/Odd-Girl-Out-Culture-Aggression/dp/B0013L2DZ0 I’ve actually got a copy if you want to borrow it.
April 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM #5368358bitnintendoParticipant[quote=flu]See, what I’m seeing is that if boys don’t like each other, they get kinda physical and start pushing each other around or hitting each other. When girls (inclusive of my kid) don’t like each other, they start saying stuff like “I’m not going to be your friend/we’re not going to talk to you.”… Is that consistent with what other parents see?[/quote]
Caveat: I am not a parent. But girls are generally discouraged from expressing aggression and anger overtly, which leaves covert bullying of the kind you describe (manipulation, and using exclusion from friendships as punishment.) Boys who get in physical fights get punished to some degree by parents or the school administration, but it is not treated as beyond the pale as much as physical altercations between girls would be… it is almost expected that boys will get in shoving matches and occasional fights.If you’re interested in reading about this sort of thing, “Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Culture of Aggression in Girls” wasn’t bad (but a bit disorganized, and didn’t provide much discussion of productive ways of dealing with girl bullies.) http://www.amazon.com/Odd-Girl-Out-Culture-Aggression/dp/B0013L2DZ0 I’ve actually got a copy if you want to borrow it.
April 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM #5369338bitnintendoParticipant[quote=flu]See, what I’m seeing is that if boys don’t like each other, they get kinda physical and start pushing each other around or hitting each other. When girls (inclusive of my kid) don’t like each other, they start saying stuff like “I’m not going to be your friend/we’re not going to talk to you.”… Is that consistent with what other parents see?[/quote]
Caveat: I am not a parent. But girls are generally discouraged from expressing aggression and anger overtly, which leaves covert bullying of the kind you describe (manipulation, and using exclusion from friendships as punishment.) Boys who get in physical fights get punished to some degree by parents or the school administration, but it is not treated as beyond the pale as much as physical altercations between girls would be… it is almost expected that boys will get in shoving matches and occasional fights.If you’re interested in reading about this sort of thing, “Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Culture of Aggression in Girls” wasn’t bad (but a bit disorganized, and didn’t provide much discussion of productive ways of dealing with girl bullies.) http://www.amazon.com/Odd-Girl-Out-Culture-Aggression/dp/B0013L2DZ0 I’ve actually got a copy if you want to borrow it.
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