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September 21, 2010 at 11:56 AM #608437September 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM #607392TenaciousSDParticipant
This just in: GOP blocked the repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ and killed the Dream Act.
“The Senate vote, 56-43, falls short of the 60 needed to begin debate on a bill that includes the policy on gays in the military. The vote also holds up the Dream Act, a route to citizenship for those who have attended college or served in the military.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-pn-gays-military-20100922,0,4738292.story
September 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM #607479TenaciousSDParticipantThis just in: GOP blocked the repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ and killed the Dream Act.
“The Senate vote, 56-43, falls short of the 60 needed to begin debate on a bill that includes the policy on gays in the military. The vote also holds up the Dream Act, a route to citizenship for those who have attended college or served in the military.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-pn-gays-military-20100922,0,4738292.story
September 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM #608031TenaciousSDParticipantThis just in: GOP blocked the repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ and killed the Dream Act.
“The Senate vote, 56-43, falls short of the 60 needed to begin debate on a bill that includes the policy on gays in the military. The vote also holds up the Dream Act, a route to citizenship for those who have attended college or served in the military.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-pn-gays-military-20100922,0,4738292.story
September 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM #608140TenaciousSDParticipantThis just in: GOP blocked the repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ and killed the Dream Act.
“The Senate vote, 56-43, falls short of the 60 needed to begin debate on a bill that includes the policy on gays in the military. The vote also holds up the Dream Act, a route to citizenship for those who have attended college or served in the military.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-pn-gays-military-20100922,0,4738292.story
September 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM #608457TenaciousSDParticipantThis just in: GOP blocked the repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ and killed the Dream Act.
“The Senate vote, 56-43, falls short of the 60 needed to begin debate on a bill that includes the policy on gays in the military. The vote also holds up the Dream Act, a route to citizenship for those who have attended college or served in the military.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-pn-gays-military-20100922,0,4738292.story
September 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM #607412sd_mattParticipant[quote=CA renter][quote=briansd1]Back to immigration, at least the Democratic leadership is trying to do the humanitarian thing and provide a path to legalization for educated immigrants already in the country.
Senator Harry Reid, the Democratic majority leader, announced last week that he would add to a military spending bill an amendment that would open a path to legal status for hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrant students. Senator George LeMieux, a Republican, has not declared his position, and the students hoped to secure his support for the measure, which will be put to a first test on Tuesday with a procedural vote.
Illegal immigrant students across the country have not been deterred by reports from Washington that the measure, known to its supporters as the Dream Act, has slim chances of passing. Republicans have denounced Mr. Reid’s move to even bring it up just six weeks before midterm elections as a ploy to attract Latino voters during his own hard-fought re-election campaign in Nevada, and they say a proposal on an issue as contentious as immigration should not be attached to the military reauthorization bill.
The student bill would open a path to eventual legal residency for illegal immigrants who arrived in the country before they were 15 years old, have been here for at least five years and have graduated from high school. It would require them to finish two years of college or military service before gaining legal status.
About 726,000 illegal immigrants would become immediately eligible for legal status under the bill, according to the Migration Policy Institute, a research group in Washington.
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That’s not helping them, brian, it’s going to end up hurting them, and us!
What needs to happen is a revolution where the working people take control of their own country (here, there, and everywhere — as Concho’s post points out). Unless this happens, things will only get worse for the working class. People need to wake up to what’s really going on.[/quote]
It just goes to show that you still don’t get it Brian. It makes me wonder if you will ever teach your children ( if you have them )to fend for themselves or just hope that you outlive them so that you can play big brother to them for their entire lives.
You and so many others have this obsession for carrying people and not helping them to their feet.
Is this a power thing?September 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM #607499sd_mattParticipant[quote=CA renter][quote=briansd1]Back to immigration, at least the Democratic leadership is trying to do the humanitarian thing and provide a path to legalization for educated immigrants already in the country.
Senator Harry Reid, the Democratic majority leader, announced last week that he would add to a military spending bill an amendment that would open a path to legal status for hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrant students. Senator George LeMieux, a Republican, has not declared his position, and the students hoped to secure his support for the measure, which will be put to a first test on Tuesday with a procedural vote.
Illegal immigrant students across the country have not been deterred by reports from Washington that the measure, known to its supporters as the Dream Act, has slim chances of passing. Republicans have denounced Mr. Reid’s move to even bring it up just six weeks before midterm elections as a ploy to attract Latino voters during his own hard-fought re-election campaign in Nevada, and they say a proposal on an issue as contentious as immigration should not be attached to the military reauthorization bill.
The student bill would open a path to eventual legal residency for illegal immigrants who arrived in the country before they were 15 years old, have been here for at least five years and have graduated from high school. It would require them to finish two years of college or military service before gaining legal status.
About 726,000 illegal immigrants would become immediately eligible for legal status under the bill, according to the Migration Policy Institute, a research group in Washington.
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That’s not helping them, brian, it’s going to end up hurting them, and us!
What needs to happen is a revolution where the working people take control of their own country (here, there, and everywhere — as Concho’s post points out). Unless this happens, things will only get worse for the working class. People need to wake up to what’s really going on.[/quote]
It just goes to show that you still don’t get it Brian. It makes me wonder if you will ever teach your children ( if you have them )to fend for themselves or just hope that you outlive them so that you can play big brother to them for their entire lives.
You and so many others have this obsession for carrying people and not helping them to their feet.
Is this a power thing?September 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM #608051sd_mattParticipant[quote=CA renter][quote=briansd1]Back to immigration, at least the Democratic leadership is trying to do the humanitarian thing and provide a path to legalization for educated immigrants already in the country.
Senator Harry Reid, the Democratic majority leader, announced last week that he would add to a military spending bill an amendment that would open a path to legal status for hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrant students. Senator George LeMieux, a Republican, has not declared his position, and the students hoped to secure his support for the measure, which will be put to a first test on Tuesday with a procedural vote.
Illegal immigrant students across the country have not been deterred by reports from Washington that the measure, known to its supporters as the Dream Act, has slim chances of passing. Republicans have denounced Mr. Reid’s move to even bring it up just six weeks before midterm elections as a ploy to attract Latino voters during his own hard-fought re-election campaign in Nevada, and they say a proposal on an issue as contentious as immigration should not be attached to the military reauthorization bill.
The student bill would open a path to eventual legal residency for illegal immigrants who arrived in the country before they were 15 years old, have been here for at least five years and have graduated from high school. It would require them to finish two years of college or military service before gaining legal status.
About 726,000 illegal immigrants would become immediately eligible for legal status under the bill, according to the Migration Policy Institute, a research group in Washington.
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That’s not helping them, brian, it’s going to end up hurting them, and us!
What needs to happen is a revolution where the working people take control of their own country (here, there, and everywhere — as Concho’s post points out). Unless this happens, things will only get worse for the working class. People need to wake up to what’s really going on.[/quote]
It just goes to show that you still don’t get it Brian. It makes me wonder if you will ever teach your children ( if you have them )to fend for themselves or just hope that you outlive them so that you can play big brother to them for their entire lives.
You and so many others have this obsession for carrying people and not helping them to their feet.
Is this a power thing?September 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM #608160sd_mattParticipant[quote=CA renter][quote=briansd1]Back to immigration, at least the Democratic leadership is trying to do the humanitarian thing and provide a path to legalization for educated immigrants already in the country.
Senator Harry Reid, the Democratic majority leader, announced last week that he would add to a military spending bill an amendment that would open a path to legal status for hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrant students. Senator George LeMieux, a Republican, has not declared his position, and the students hoped to secure his support for the measure, which will be put to a first test on Tuesday with a procedural vote.
Illegal immigrant students across the country have not been deterred by reports from Washington that the measure, known to its supporters as the Dream Act, has slim chances of passing. Republicans have denounced Mr. Reid’s move to even bring it up just six weeks before midterm elections as a ploy to attract Latino voters during his own hard-fought re-election campaign in Nevada, and they say a proposal on an issue as contentious as immigration should not be attached to the military reauthorization bill.
The student bill would open a path to eventual legal residency for illegal immigrants who arrived in the country before they were 15 years old, have been here for at least five years and have graduated from high school. It would require them to finish two years of college or military service before gaining legal status.
About 726,000 illegal immigrants would become immediately eligible for legal status under the bill, according to the Migration Policy Institute, a research group in Washington.
[/quote]
That’s not helping them, brian, it’s going to end up hurting them, and us!
What needs to happen is a revolution where the working people take control of their own country (here, there, and everywhere — as Concho’s post points out). Unless this happens, things will only get worse for the working class. People need to wake up to what’s really going on.[/quote]
It just goes to show that you still don’t get it Brian. It makes me wonder if you will ever teach your children ( if you have them )to fend for themselves or just hope that you outlive them so that you can play big brother to them for their entire lives.
You and so many others have this obsession for carrying people and not helping them to their feet.
Is this a power thing?September 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM #608477sd_mattParticipant[quote=CA renter][quote=briansd1]Back to immigration, at least the Democratic leadership is trying to do the humanitarian thing and provide a path to legalization for educated immigrants already in the country.
Senator Harry Reid, the Democratic majority leader, announced last week that he would add to a military spending bill an amendment that would open a path to legal status for hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrant students. Senator George LeMieux, a Republican, has not declared his position, and the students hoped to secure his support for the measure, which will be put to a first test on Tuesday with a procedural vote.
Illegal immigrant students across the country have not been deterred by reports from Washington that the measure, known to its supporters as the Dream Act, has slim chances of passing. Republicans have denounced Mr. Reid’s move to even bring it up just six weeks before midterm elections as a ploy to attract Latino voters during his own hard-fought re-election campaign in Nevada, and they say a proposal on an issue as contentious as immigration should not be attached to the military reauthorization bill.
The student bill would open a path to eventual legal residency for illegal immigrants who arrived in the country before they were 15 years old, have been here for at least five years and have graduated from high school. It would require them to finish two years of college or military service before gaining legal status.
About 726,000 illegal immigrants would become immediately eligible for legal status under the bill, according to the Migration Policy Institute, a research group in Washington.
[/quote]
That’s not helping them, brian, it’s going to end up hurting them, and us!
What needs to happen is a revolution where the working people take control of their own country (here, there, and everywhere — as Concho’s post points out). Unless this happens, things will only get worse for the working class. People need to wake up to what’s really going on.[/quote]
It just goes to show that you still don’t get it Brian. It makes me wonder if you will ever teach your children ( if you have them )to fend for themselves or just hope that you outlive them so that you can play big brother to them for their entire lives.
You and so many others have this obsession for carrying people and not helping them to their feet.
Is this a power thing?September 21, 2010 at 1:19 PM #607417allParticipant[quote=briansd1]
flu’s friend, however, despite having her own legal money-earning opportunity in America (H1B job), seems resentful of the possible, not even yet provided, path to legalization for other immigrants.[/quote]
And if you bothered to peruse some of the forums frequented by people who entered and reside in the country legally you would have a chance to develop better understanding of flu’s friend’s reasoning.
Employment-based track being held hostage by pro-illegal caucus being one. There are people who came here 10 years ago who are still on H1B due to administrative inefficiencies. I know of a family where the older kid was 12 when they arrived in 2001. The kid aged out and left the country and they are still waiting for their permanent residency.
September 21, 2010 at 1:19 PM #607504allParticipant[quote=briansd1]
flu’s friend, however, despite having her own legal money-earning opportunity in America (H1B job), seems resentful of the possible, not even yet provided, path to legalization for other immigrants.[/quote]
And if you bothered to peruse some of the forums frequented by people who entered and reside in the country legally you would have a chance to develop better understanding of flu’s friend’s reasoning.
Employment-based track being held hostage by pro-illegal caucus being one. There are people who came here 10 years ago who are still on H1B due to administrative inefficiencies. I know of a family where the older kid was 12 when they arrived in 2001. The kid aged out and left the country and they are still waiting for their permanent residency.
September 21, 2010 at 1:19 PM #608056allParticipant[quote=briansd1]
flu’s friend, however, despite having her own legal money-earning opportunity in America (H1B job), seems resentful of the possible, not even yet provided, path to legalization for other immigrants.[/quote]
And if you bothered to peruse some of the forums frequented by people who entered and reside in the country legally you would have a chance to develop better understanding of flu’s friend’s reasoning.
Employment-based track being held hostage by pro-illegal caucus being one. There are people who came here 10 years ago who are still on H1B due to administrative inefficiencies. I know of a family where the older kid was 12 when they arrived in 2001. The kid aged out and left the country and they are still waiting for their permanent residency.
September 21, 2010 at 1:19 PM #608165allParticipant[quote=briansd1]
flu’s friend, however, despite having her own legal money-earning opportunity in America (H1B job), seems resentful of the possible, not even yet provided, path to legalization for other immigrants.[/quote]
And if you bothered to peruse some of the forums frequented by people who entered and reside in the country legally you would have a chance to develop better understanding of flu’s friend’s reasoning.
Employment-based track being held hostage by pro-illegal caucus being one. There are people who came here 10 years ago who are still on H1B due to administrative inefficiencies. I know of a family where the older kid was 12 when they arrived in 2001. The kid aged out and left the country and they are still waiting for their permanent residency.
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