OT: FOX News and the oil blowout

[Arraya]

[quote=waiting for bottom][quote=briansd1]The oil gusher kills any argument in favor of the drill-baby-drill movement. That’s why Fox is only given scant coverage to the gusher.

Supporters of drilling have argued that technology now makes it safe to drill in sensitive, untouched natural areas.

The new drilling technology is not working and untested as evidenced by the oil gusher.

Drillers cannot guarantee that disaster won’t occur. And when a disaster does occur it takes months to plug a gushing well. Obviously, the technology is not there.

It’s now up to the public to decide whether they are willing to trust drillers with their own backyards, recreational areas and livelihoods.[/quote]

By this logic we should shut down the airline industry after a plane crash, quit selling cars after Toyota, stop advancing medical technology when a patient dies, and drop out of college when we fail a test.

Accidents happen man. Latest polls still show more than 50% of Americans support offshore drilling. You feel so strongly about this then quit driving your car and go invent an alternative. Until then, close your yap.[/quote]

It’s not a good analogy. you can’t frame the continuation of deep water drilling the same as advancing technology. For one we know we wont be doing it in 50 years. We should not be drilling because we know it’s going to end and as time goes on it gets harder, more dangerous and dirtier. As this should indicate. More accidents will invariably occur because of the ever changing and increasingly difficult dynamics. Maybe, just maybe, it’s a path we do no want to take and be ok with that rather than turning into a school yard taunt for not thinking it is a good idea.

We have a huge amount of talent being wasted on a dead end road.

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[quote=Arraya]

It’s not a good analogy. you can’t frame the continuation of deep water drilling the same as advancing technology. For one we know we wont be doing it in 50 years. We should not be drilling because we know it’s going to end and as time goes on it gets harder, more dangerous and dirtier. As this should indicate. More accidents will invariably occur because of the ever changing and increasingly difficult dynamics. Maybe, just maybe, it’s a path we do no want to take and be ok with that rather than turning into a school yard taunt for not thinking it is a good idea.

We have a huge amount of talent being wasted on a dead end road.[/quote]

Were you drinking when you posted that? We know we won’t be drilling for oil just like we know we won’t be using wired computers in 50 years. Should we stop investing in computer technology?

Even giving you the benefit of the doubt….I want all the oil we can get now sooner rather than later. We should certainly pursue alternatives.
How can anyone that drives a car criticize efforts to find more oil? Hilarious.

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[quote=Arraya]

It’s not a good analogy. you can’t frame the continuation of deep water drilling the same as advancing technology. For one we know we wont be doing it in 50 years. We should not be drilling because we know it’s going to end and as time goes on it gets harder, more dangerous and dirtier. As this should indicate. More accidents will invariably occur because of the ever changing and increasingly difficult dynamics. Maybe, just maybe, it’s a path we do no want to take and be ok with that rather than turning into a school yard taunt for not thinking it is a good idea.

We have a huge amount of talent being wasted on a dead end road.[/quote]

Were you drinking when you posted that? We know we won’t be drilling for oil just like we know we won’t be using wired computers in 50 years. Should we stop investing in computer technology?

Even giving you the benefit of the doubt….I want all the oil we can get now sooner rather than later. We should certainly pursue alternatives.
How can anyone that drives a car criticize efforts to find more oil? Hilarious.

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[quote=Arraya]

It’s not a good analogy. you can’t frame the continuation of deep water drilling the same as advancing technology. For one we know we wont be doing it in 50 years. We should not be drilling because we know it’s going to end and as time goes on it gets harder, more dangerous and dirtier. As this should indicate. More accidents will invariably occur because of the ever changing and increasingly difficult dynamics. Maybe, just maybe, it’s a path we do no want to take and be ok with that rather than turning into a school yard taunt for not thinking it is a good idea.

We have a huge amount of talent being wasted on a dead end road.[/quote]

Were you drinking when you posted that? We know we won’t be drilling for oil just like we know we won’t be using wired computers in 50 years. Should we stop investing in computer technology?

Even giving you the benefit of the doubt….I want all the oil we can get now sooner rather than later. We should certainly pursue alternatives.
How can anyone that drives a car criticize efforts to find more oil? Hilarious.

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[quote=Arraya]

It’s not a good analogy. you can’t frame the continuation of deep water drilling the same as advancing technology. For one we know we wont be doing it in 50 years. We should not be drilling because we know it’s going to end and as time goes on it gets harder, more dangerous and dirtier. As this should indicate. More accidents will invariably occur because of the ever changing and increasingly difficult dynamics. Maybe, just maybe, it’s a path we do no want to take and be ok with that rather than turning into a school yard taunt for not thinking it is a good idea.

We have a huge amount of talent being wasted on a dead end road.[/quote]

Were you drinking when you posted that? We know we won’t be drilling for oil just like we know we won’t be using wired computers in 50 years. Should we stop investing in computer technology?

Even giving you the benefit of the doubt….I want all the oil we can get now sooner rather than later. We should certainly pursue alternatives.
How can anyone that drives a car criticize efforts to find more oil? Hilarious.

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[quote=Arraya]

It’s not a good analogy. you can’t frame the continuation of deep water drilling the same as advancing technology. For one we know we wont be doing it in 50 years. We should not be drilling because we know it’s going to end and as time goes on it gets harder, more dangerous and dirtier. As this should indicate. More accidents will invariably occur because of the ever changing and increasingly difficult dynamics. Maybe, just maybe, it’s a path we do no want to take and be ok with that rather than turning into a school yard taunt for not thinking it is a good idea.

We have a huge amount of talent being wasted on a dead end road.[/quote]

Were you drinking when you posted that? We know we won’t be drilling for oil just like we know we won’t be using wired computers in 50 years. Should we stop investing in computer technology?

Even giving you the benefit of the doubt….I want all the oil we can get now sooner rather than later. We should certainly pursue alternatives.
How can anyone that drives a car criticize efforts to find more oil? Hilarious.

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[quote=MadeInTaiwan]
The difference is scale. Should all airline crashes over 10 years occur at one airport in one day (or a daily crash at the same airport spread over several months), you bet there would be pressure to further regulate air safety.
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OK…..but we’re talking about one oil spill in one location….out of god knows how many rigs.

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[quote=MadeInTaiwan]
The difference is scale. Should all airline crashes over 10 years occur at one airport in one day (or a daily crash at the same airport spread over several months), you bet there would be pressure to further regulate air safety.
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OK…..but we’re talking about one oil spill in one location….out of god knows how many rigs.

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[quote=MadeInTaiwan]
The difference is scale. Should all airline crashes over 10 years occur at one airport in one day (or a daily crash at the same airport spread over several months), you bet there would be pressure to further regulate air safety.
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OK…..but we’re talking about one oil spill in one location….out of god knows how many rigs.

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[quote=MadeInTaiwan]
The difference is scale. Should all airline crashes over 10 years occur at one airport in one day (or a daily crash at the same airport spread over several months), you bet there would be pressure to further regulate air safety.
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OK…..but we’re talking about one oil spill in one location….out of god knows how many rigs.

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[quote=MadeInTaiwan]
The difference is scale. Should all airline crashes over 10 years occur at one airport in one day (or a daily crash at the same airport spread over several months), you bet there would be pressure to further regulate air safety.
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OK…..but we’re talking about one oil spill in one location….out of god knows how many rigs.

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[quote=evolusd]Oddly, I’m with brian on this one. I’m all for other renewable sources (solar, wind, etc) that don’t carry with them the huge risk ocean floor oil drilling does.

I’m an avid surfer, so I guess the ocean is more sacred to me than most. This spill and the length of time to remedy the problem makes me sick.[/quote]

Ocean is almost sacred to me too. The economy and life as we all know it is built around oil….like it or not. I’m all for renewable sources. What momementum do we have on itiatives for those? Until we get serious on that, drill baby drill.

The real outrage here should be on our lack of effort to develop alternatives, not on BP. We all talked in good game with $5/gallon gas in 2008. Nothing ever became of it.

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[quote=evolusd]Oddly, I’m with brian on this one. I’m all for other renewable sources (solar, wind, etc) that don’t carry with them the huge risk ocean floor oil drilling does.

I’m an avid surfer, so I guess the ocean is more sacred to me than most. This spill and the length of time to remedy the problem makes me sick.[/quote]

Ocean is almost sacred to me too. The economy and life as we all know it is built around oil….like it or not. I’m all for renewable sources. What momementum do we have on itiatives for those? Until we get serious on that, drill baby drill.

The real outrage here should be on our lack of effort to develop alternatives, not on BP. We all talked in good game with $5/gallon gas in 2008. Nothing ever became of it.

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[quote=evolusd]Oddly, I’m with brian on this one. I’m all for other renewable sources (solar, wind, etc) that don’t carry with them the huge risk ocean floor oil drilling does.

I’m an avid surfer, so I guess the ocean is more sacred to me than most. This spill and the length of time to remedy the problem makes me sick.[/quote]

Ocean is almost sacred to me too. The economy and life as we all know it is built around oil….like it or not. I’m all for renewable sources. What momementum do we have on itiatives for those? Until we get serious on that, drill baby drill.

The real outrage here should be on our lack of effort to develop alternatives, not on BP. We all talked in good game with $5/gallon gas in 2008. Nothing ever became of it.

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[quote=evolusd]Oddly, I’m with brian on this one. I’m all for other renewable sources (solar, wind, etc) that don’t carry with them the huge risk ocean floor oil drilling does.

I’m an avid surfer, so I guess the ocean is more sacred to me than most. This spill and the length of time to remedy the problem makes me sick.[/quote]

Ocean is almost sacred to me too. The economy and life as we all know it is built around oil….like it or not. I’m all for renewable sources. What momementum do we have on itiatives for those? Until we get serious on that, drill baby drill.

The real outrage here should be on our lack of effort to develop alternatives, not on BP. We all talked in good game with $5/gallon gas in 2008. Nothing ever became of it.

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