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July 2, 2012 at 11:33 AM #747071July 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM #747072
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ParticipantI use online banking (though I go to the physical bank for check + cash deposits and seldom use credit cards). However, the bank only has access to info on my account with them, not all accounts I have.
And yes, I think that users of mint.com are f**kin’ idiots. I do my taxes using desktop tax software, not by uploading personal info to some website.
Office is an example of an application where you have choice. But many other apps don’t give you that choice, or are murky about where data are stored.
And with some mobile devices (iPad), it’s hard to transfer data from certain apps on them unless you’re doing so via the cloud. Harder than it needs to be, IMHO.
July 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM #747073an
Participant[quote=spdrun]I use online banking (though I go to the physical bank for check + cash deposits and seldom use credit cards). However, the bank only has access to info on my account with them, not all accounts I have.
And yes, I think that users of mint.com are f**kin’ idiots. I do my taxes using desktop tax software, not by uploading personal info to some website.[/quote]
You sound worse than my parents. Maybe more like my grand parents.July 2, 2012 at 11:45 AM #747074Participant[quote=spdrun]And with some mobile devices (iPad), it’s hard to transfer data from certain apps on them unless you’re doing so via the cloud. Harder than it needs to be, IMHO.[/quote]
It’s only hard when you’re trying to use it for what it wasn’t designed to do. I hope in 10 years, you still have devices that will satisfy your tin foil needs. I don’t see the cloud services back tracking. In the future, I can see EVERYTHING will be online somewhere. You’re just fighting the inevitable.July 2, 2012 at 11:46 AM #747075ParticipantYou sound worse than my parents. Maybe more like my grand parents.
Maybe your grandparents weren’t so dumb after all, then 🙂
July 2, 2012 at 11:50 AM #747076Participant[quote=spdrun]
You sound worse than my parents. Maybe more like my grand parents.
Maybe your grandparents weren’t so dumb after all, then :)[/quote]
Yeah, they also don’t know how to use a computer. BTW, who ever said they’re dumb. I never call any one dumb for doing something I wouldn’t do. You on the other hand…July 2, 2012 at 11:51 AM #747077ParticipantIt’s only hard when you’re trying to use it for what it wasn’t designed to do. I hope in 10 years, you still have devices that will satisfy your tin foil needs. I don’t see the cloud services back tracking. In the future, I can see EVERYTHING will be online somewhere. You’re just fighting the inevitable.
In the future, assuming that the Internet and ipv6 become ubiquitous enough, there will actually be less need for centralized servers of ANY type. Cloud or local.
iPad turns on. iPad pings iPhone and Macbook. “Any changed files for me today?” Storage on devices is cheap. Bandwidth is also getting cheaper. If the data are available and stored on several devices, this would also reduce the need for backup.
July 2, 2012 at 11:52 AM #747078Participant[quote=spdrun]
It’s only hard when you’re trying to use it for what it wasn’t designed to do. I hope in 10 years, you still have devices that will satisfy your tin foil needs. I don’t see the cloud services back tracking. In the future, I can see EVERYTHING will be online somewhere. You’re just fighting the inevitable.
In the future, assuming that the Internet and ipv6 become ubiquitous enough, there will actually be less need for centralized servers of ANY type. Cloud or local. iPad turns on. iPad pings iPhone and Macbook. “Any changed files for me today?”[/quote]
Good luck trying to back up those data. Oops, I just drop my iPad. There goes my photos, videos, etc. Also, good luck trying to keep all of those devices safe. Oops, I just lost my iPad. There goes all the personal data I have on that iPad.July 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM #747079ParticipantThe photos and videos would also have been synched to the Macbook and iPhone, basically in real time, or as soon as the iPad obtains an Internet connection.
Devices could be encrypted, as devices can be right now. Since a lot of cloud-synched apps store authentication info, storing data in the cloud right now doesn’t provide much security unless you wish to implement it.
July 2, 2012 at 11:57 AM #747081ParticipantYeah, they also don’t know how to use a computer. BTW, who ever said they’re dumb. I never call any one dumb for doing something I wouldn’t do. You on the other hand…
Misusing a computer by uploading info that should remain personal to unknown hands is as bad as not knowing how to use one.
July 2, 2012 at 11:59 AM #747080ParticipantThat would be impossible. I have over 600GB of photos and videos today and most of those were taken with 2MP cameras, etc. Those data will only get exponentially larger with the 20+MP cameras and 4k camcorders. It’s impossible to have a tablet that have several hundreds of terabytes that would be needed to store all the photos and videos I would have over the next 10 years. It’s unlikely to expect that kind of storage from a laptop as well. The only viable solution, if you’re afraid of cloud services is to create your own data service at home.
July 2, 2012 at 12:10 PM #747083Participant[quote=spdrun]
Yeah, they also don’t know how to use a computer. BTW, who ever said they’re dumb. I never call any one dumb for doing something I wouldn’t do. You on the other hand…
Misusing a computer by uploading info that should remain personal to unknown hands is as bad as not knowing how to use one.[/quote]
Right, and proliferating your info beyond the servers of your banking institution is just as bad. I work under the assumption that someday, a bad guy will somehow get a hold of my data. So how can I protect my self against that. Instead of trying to hoard it all in my house, thinking I can some how prevent bad things from happening. If my house burn down, my data will be safe. If someone beak into my house and steal my computer, I already have myself covered for this situation. I can also recover my data as well.July 2, 2012 at 12:10 PM #747082ParticipantIt’s unlikely to expect that kind of storage from a laptop as well.
Not unreasonable to expect that kind of storage from an appliance, though. If the cost of storage comes down to the point that several hundred TB of storage are reasonably priced, then it will also become reasonably priced on physical devices.
As far as tablets and phones, you’d probably keep the 1000 most recent photos and those flagged important, and sync the rest.
July 2, 2012 at 12:19 PM #747085Participant[quote=spdrun]
It’s unlikely to expect that kind of storage from a laptop as well.
Not unreasonable to expect that kind of storage from an appliance, though. If the cost of storage comes down to the point that several hundred TB of storage are reasonably priced, then it will also become reasonably priced on physical devices.
As far as tablets and phones, you’d probably keep the 1000 most recent photos and those flagged important, and sync the rest.[/quote]
I don’t see that happening anytime soon.July 2, 2012 at 12:22 PM #747086ParticipantI don’t either. But you mentioned several hundred TB of data per person — I did not.
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