OT: Battle Ground Zero: Murrieta: Invasion of America

[mixxalot]

Actually they used to be called wetbacks then illegals than undocumented then migrants.

[SK in CV]

[quote=mixxalot]Actually they used to be called wetbacks then illegals than undocumented then migrants.[/quote]

And African Americans used to be called….you know where I’m going. Do you miss the good old days?

[enron_by_the_sea]

I wonder what native Americans called white settlers? Surely they used more colorful language than just “illegal” !

[FlyerInHi]

Oh, no. Racists in our midst. It’s getting closer to San Diego.
Murietta is riverside county. But now it’s imperial beach. Good thing it’s not the city of San Diego.

People are afraid of potential Syrian refugees. Wow.
http://www.cbs8.com/story/33154780/backlash-against-imperial-beachs-welcoming-city-proclamation
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/sep/13/stringers-imperial-beach-right-wing-backlashed/#

Of course it’s part of Obama’s plan.
https://stop-obama-now.net/2016/09/17/protest-welcoming-city-proclamation-by-imperial-beach-inviting-refugees-to-ib/

[CA renter]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Oh, no. Racists in our midst. It’s getting closer to San Diego.
Murietta is riverside county. But now it’s imperial beach. Good thing it’s not the city of San Diego.

People are afraid of potential Syrian refugees. Wow.
http://www.cbs8.com/story/33154780/backlash-against-imperial-beachs-welcoming-city-proclamation
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/sep/13/stringers-imperial-beach-right-wing-backlashed/#

Of course it’s part of Obama’s plan.
https://stop-obama-now.net/2016/09/17/protest-welcoming-city-proclamation-by-imperial-beach-inviting-refugees-to-ib/%5B/quote%5D

It would be interesting to see how the residents of Beverly Hills or La Jolla would react to a mayor’s decision to re-home Syrian refugees in their neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

[quote=CA renter]It would be interesting to see how the residents of Beverly Hills or La Jolla would react to a mayor’s decision to re-home Syrian refugees in their neighborhoods.
reply rep[/quote]

LOL CAR …. the undertones of white supremacy in many of your posts is always a bit amusing, in a sad way.

Syrians in Beverly Hills, oh my!

California

[Coronita]

I would be mad as hell if our government resettled refugees in Beverly Hills or La Jolla…..

Because for the price it will cost to resettle 1 refugee family in Beverly Hills or La Jolla, they could have resettled a dozen or so in a lower cost/safe area, where housing isn’t $400-500+/sq ft.

That would be just one more example of the public sector wasting the taxpayer’s money, without regards to expenses because they have blank check for other people’s money!

Now if a charitable wealthy donor were to buy/fund a refugee resettlement for some of the folks in BH or LJ without costing us taxpayers more money, well then yes, I wouldn’t mind.

[CA renter]

[quote=harvey][quote=CA renter]It would be interesting to see how the residents of Beverly Hills or La Jolla would react to a mayor’s decision to re-home Syrian refugees in their neighborhoods.
reply rep[/quote]

LOL CAR …. the undertones of white supremacy in many of your posts is always a bit amusing, in a sad way.

Syrians in Beverly Hills, oh my!

http://www.arabamerica.com/california/%5B/quote%5D

I’ve missed your trolling and putting words in other people’s mouths, Pri. The way you project is priceless. Good to be back.

[Coronita]

I’m more worried about getting randomly shot by a lunatic gun rights activist with a few screws loose or a son/daughter with mental illness but nevertheless has easy access to his parent’s gun versus a syrian refuge going postal. Just saying.

It was pretty amazing that in NYC/NJ it took less than 24 hours to find and capture that guy that decided to blow things up over the weekend. That suggests to me, we’re doing a pretty good job on things.

Could we do better? Yes…Can everything be prevented? Probably not. But given how much money this country has spent on some of these proactive monitoring/tools (much of which all of people in this country complain about how it’s invasive of privacy), I’d say it’s working reasonably well.

What was the complaint about the NSA again? Seems to me they are doing the job they are suppose to be doing.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=CA renter]
It would be interesting to see how the residents of Beverly Hills or La Jolla would react to a mayor’s decision to re-home Syrian refugees in their neighborhoods.[/quote]

I think they would be welcomed if someone paid their rent.

As someone’s suggestion, I volunteered a little with refugees. There are not many Syrian refugees in San Diego or the USA as a whole. Nothing to fear.

Basically, refugees get welfare benefits and community groups get funds to resettle them. There is not any money to go around to house refugees in La Jolla. That’s why they likely end up in East San Diego or El Cajon.

The welcome declaration by the mayor of imperial beach was nothing but a statement of goodwill. Those protesting citizens showed everyone how ugly they are. Sickening!

[Anonymous]

Ah yes, trolling.

Here’s a clue that someone is trolling: When they start their sentence with “It would be interesting to see how…” and then propose some hypothetical controversial situation.

CAR, if you’ve got something to say about refugee immigrants – the actual relevant topic of the thread – then say it. If you have something to say about the residents of Beverly Hills or La Jolla, then say it.

Otherwise, please spare us the bigoted innuendo.

[spdrun]

It was pretty amazing that in NYC/NJ it took less than 24 hours to find and capture that guy that decided to blow things up over the weekend. That suggests to me, we’re doing a pretty good job on things.
…
What was the complaint about the NSA again? Seems to me they are doing the job they are suppose to be doing.

Wrong. Zero to do with the NSA and intrusive surveillance, everything to do with police work and luck. As far as I know, it went like this:

(1) Device went off on 23rd Street, NYC
(2) Device did not go off on 27th Street, NYC
(3) Fingerprint was found on the unexploded device
(4) Fingerprint was matched to Mr. Rahmani, who had previous police contact
(5) An alert (including emergency alert to phones) went out about Rahmani, who was found sleeping on a street in a nearby NJ town.
(6) Rahmani was also caught on video tossing the bombs in a trash bin in a NJ train station

If anything, this is an argument for hiring competent detectives in local police, not for more scouring of personal communications by the Feds. Or for more tracking of people, video surveillance, etc. He would have been caught as easily in 1999 as now.

All of those things failed to uncover Rahmani’s plans. Same with the Boston bombers. Both were found by a combination of luck, the human need for sleep, and old-fashioned quality police work.

Cue conspiracy theories that he’s a patsy who was put up to it in order to disrupt the elections. Trump now has a terror attack to blame on the Dems being soft on terror — he stands to benefit from this. The whole thing with no deaths, a bunch of unexploded bombs, evidence left behind, etc, might seem a bit too good to be true for some people.

Guy strikes me as more of a Lee Harvey Oswald putz than an Osama Bin Laden mastermind type.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=spdrun]

It was pretty amazing that in NYC/NJ it took less than 24 hours to find and capture that guy that decided to blow things up over the weekend. That suggests to me, we’re doing a pretty good job on things.
…
What was the complaint about the NSA again? Seems to me they are doing the job they are suppose to be doing.

Wrong. Zero to do with the NSA and intrusive surveillance, everything to do with police work and luck. As far as I know, it went like this:

(1) Device went off on 23rd Street, NYC
(2) Device did not go off on 27th Street, NYC
(3) Fingerprint was found on the unexploded device
(4) Fingerprint was matched to Mr. Rahmani, who had previous police contact
(5) An alert (including emergency alert to phones) went out about Rahmani, who was found sleeping on a street in a nearby NJ town.
(6) Rahmani was also caught on video tossing the bombs in a trash bin in a NJ train station

If anything, this is an argument for hiring competent detectives in local police, not for more scouring of personal communications by the Feds. Or for more tracking of people, video surveillance, etc. He would have been caught as easily in 1999 as now.

All of those things failed to uncover Rahmani’s plans. Same with the Boston bombers. Both were found by a combination of luck, the human need for sleep, and old-fashioned quality police work.

Cue conspiracy theories that he’s a patsy who was put up to it in order to disrupt the elections. Trump now has a terror attack to blame on the Dems being soft on terror — he stands to benefit from this. The whole thing with no deaths, a bunch of unexploded bombs, evidence left behind, etc, might seem a bit too good to be true for some people.

Guy strikes me as more of a Lee Harvey Oswald putz than an Osama Bin Laden mastermind type.[/quote]Thanks for posting an accurate description of NYPD’s thorough, boots-on-the-ground investigation and apprehension of Rahmani, spd. This kind of material on the forum keeps the tin-foil hat wearers (ex: flu aka flu-redux aka bullishgurl, et al and others) in check :=0

[spdrun]

Just to be clear, NYPD did not collect Rahmani. They collected evidence and dissiminated info in concert with Feds and media. Local police in Linden, NJ caught up with the guy after he was found asleep in front of a bar.

Other than for the wounded, this would have been a comedy of errors. (The story is stranger than I described, and involves random thieves and homeless people finding bombs. He also managed to blow up a garbage can at the beach. Barely.)

[SK in CV]

[quote=spdrun]

It was pretty amazing that in NYC/NJ it took less than 24 hours to find and capture that guy that decided to blow things up over the weekend. That suggests to me, we’re doing a pretty good job on things.
…
What was the complaint about the NSA again? Seems to me they are doing the job they are suppose to be doing.

Wrong. Zero to do with the NSA and intrusive surveillance, everything to do with police work and luck. As far as I know, it went like this:

(1) Device went off on 23rd Street, NYC
(2) Device did not go off on 27th Street, NYC
(3) Fingerprint was found on the unexploded device
(4) Fingerprint was matched to Mr. Rahmani, who had previous police contact
(5) An alert (including emergency alert to phones) went out about Rahmani, who was found sleeping on a street in a nearby NJ town.
(6) Rahmani was also caught on video tossing the bombs in a trash bin in a NJ train station

[/quote]

Claims have been made that the fingerprint was secondary confirmation. The prints were on the phone that was attached to the pressure cooker. The phone had the owners contacts, photographs, texts, and pretty strong evidence of who the phone belonged to. I’m not dismissing the fine police work. But this may have been a case of the police entering the case when all the clues had already been revealed, and all they had to do is give the final answer.

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