OMG I just want to buy a freaking house!

[NotCranky]

[quote=AN]Russell, agree with you on that point. I guess beggar can’t be chooser. If he really want to buy a house, he can always put an offer on a house no one want, like you said. You gotta do what you gotta do.[/quote]

I don’t consider applying the strategy of going after what other people don’t want as begging. I seems that those competing with everyone and his brother are more the beggars , even if they are paying cash. Like you said though, you gotta do what you gotta do.

[CricketOnTheHearth]

dd123–

It doesn’t make sense that prices have bottomed; either decent houses are priced out of reach of most normal incomes, or houses that are priced within normal incomes are scarce on the ground ’cause the “cash investors” got them all.

I think the main reasons prices aren’t going lower is just that the system is locked up. Few people are selling at any reasonable price because most people are underwater in their houses. Few can afford to buy at the price most people need to stay above water, so sales (of higher-priced dwellings) are moribund.

The only thing that would spring these underwater houses loose into the market is (1) mortgage cramdowns for the borrowers, so they could sell at a lower price, or (2) if they are delinquent they are foreclosed upon and the house is then sold for whatever the market will pay for it. Banks/Congress/State Assembly/county dogcatcher have taken every superhuman effort possible to prevent either (1) or (2) so we are in lockup. This is NOT the same as a normal “bottom”.

There are huge downward pressures on housing prices in the fundamentals arena (incomes, unemployment, NODs, unlisted deliquencies, etc) so I don’t think this is a stable situation either. The Fed and Treasury can blow only so much money at the situation then something’s gotta give.

I know it is wicked frustrating; I myself have chronic neck cramps from the frustration. But my gut says, “not now”.

Arraya, thanks for the heads-up, I sent it to my friend who is a small business owner and has already seen his line of credit cut. Gives validation to my gut, too.

[CricketOnTheHearth]

dd123–

It doesn’t make sense that prices have bottomed; either decent houses are priced out of reach of most normal incomes, or houses that are priced within normal incomes are scarce on the ground ’cause the “cash investors” got them all.

I think the main reasons prices aren’t going lower is just that the system is locked up. Few people are selling at any reasonable price because most people are underwater in their houses. Few can afford to buy at the price most people need to stay above water, so sales (of higher-priced dwellings) are moribund.

The only thing that would spring these underwater houses loose into the market is (1) mortgage cramdowns for the borrowers, so they could sell at a lower price, or (2) if they are delinquent they are foreclosed upon and the house is then sold for whatever the market will pay for it. Banks/Congress/State Assembly/county dogcatcher have taken every superhuman effort possible to prevent either (1) or (2) so we are in lockup. This is NOT the same as a normal “bottom”.

There are huge downward pressures on housing prices in the fundamentals arena (incomes, unemployment, NODs, unlisted deliquencies, etc) so I don’t think this is a stable situation either. The Fed and Treasury can blow only so much money at the situation then something’s gotta give.

I know it is wicked frustrating; I myself have chronic neck cramps from the frustration. But my gut says, “not now”.

Arraya, thanks for the heads-up, I sent it to my friend who is a small business owner and has already seen his line of credit cut. Gives validation to my gut, too.

[CricketOnTheHearth]

dd123–

It doesn’t make sense that prices have bottomed; either decent houses are priced out of reach of most normal incomes, or houses that are priced within normal incomes are scarce on the ground ’cause the “cash investors” got them all.

I think the main reasons prices aren’t going lower is just that the system is locked up. Few people are selling at any reasonable price because most people are underwater in their houses. Few can afford to buy at the price most people need to stay above water, so sales (of higher-priced dwellings) are moribund.

The only thing that would spring these underwater houses loose into the market is (1) mortgage cramdowns for the borrowers, so they could sell at a lower price, or (2) if they are delinquent they are foreclosed upon and the house is then sold for whatever the market will pay for it. Banks/Congress/State Assembly/county dogcatcher have taken every superhuman effort possible to prevent either (1) or (2) so we are in lockup. This is NOT the same as a normal “bottom”.

There are huge downward pressures on housing prices in the fundamentals arena (incomes, unemployment, NODs, unlisted deliquencies, etc) so I don’t think this is a stable situation either. The Fed and Treasury can blow only so much money at the situation then something’s gotta give.

I know it is wicked frustrating; I myself have chronic neck cramps from the frustration. But my gut says, “not now”.

Arraya, thanks for the heads-up, I sent it to my friend who is a small business owner and has already seen his line of credit cut. Gives validation to my gut, too.

[CricketOnTheHearth]

dd123–

It doesn’t make sense that prices have bottomed; either decent houses are priced out of reach of most normal incomes, or houses that are priced within normal incomes are scarce on the ground ’cause the “cash investors” got them all.

I think the main reasons prices aren’t going lower is just that the system is locked up. Few people are selling at any reasonable price because most people are underwater in their houses. Few can afford to buy at the price most people need to stay above water, so sales (of higher-priced dwellings) are moribund.

The only thing that would spring these underwater houses loose into the market is (1) mortgage cramdowns for the borrowers, so they could sell at a lower price, or (2) if they are delinquent they are foreclosed upon and the house is then sold for whatever the market will pay for it. Banks/Congress/State Assembly/county dogcatcher have taken every superhuman effort possible to prevent either (1) or (2) so we are in lockup. This is NOT the same as a normal “bottom”.

There are huge downward pressures on housing prices in the fundamentals arena (incomes, unemployment, NODs, unlisted deliquencies, etc) so I don’t think this is a stable situation either. The Fed and Treasury can blow only so much money at the situation then something’s gotta give.

I know it is wicked frustrating; I myself have chronic neck cramps from the frustration. But my gut says, “not now”.

Arraya, thanks for the heads-up, I sent it to my friend who is a small business owner and has already seen his line of credit cut. Gives validation to my gut, too.

[CricketOnTheHearth]

dd123–

It doesn’t make sense that prices have bottomed; either decent houses are priced out of reach of most normal incomes, or houses that are priced within normal incomes are scarce on the ground ’cause the “cash investors” got them all.

I think the main reasons prices aren’t going lower is just that the system is locked up. Few people are selling at any reasonable price because most people are underwater in their houses. Few can afford to buy at the price most people need to stay above water, so sales (of higher-priced dwellings) are moribund.

The only thing that would spring these underwater houses loose into the market is (1) mortgage cramdowns for the borrowers, so they could sell at a lower price, or (2) if they are delinquent they are foreclosed upon and the house is then sold for whatever the market will pay for it. Banks/Congress/State Assembly/county dogcatcher have taken every superhuman effort possible to prevent either (1) or (2) so we are in lockup. This is NOT the same as a normal “bottom”.

There are huge downward pressures on housing prices in the fundamentals arena (incomes, unemployment, NODs, unlisted deliquencies, etc) so I don’t think this is a stable situation either. The Fed and Treasury can blow only so much money at the situation then something’s gotta give.

I know it is wicked frustrating; I myself have chronic neck cramps from the frustration. But my gut says, “not now”.

Arraya, thanks for the heads-up, I sent it to my friend who is a small business owner and has already seen his line of credit cut. Gives validation to my gut, too.

[jpinpb]

Somewhat OT – I know a small law firm – lawyers been in practice for at least 16 years. They lost their credit line. This is after getting a $12 million judgment. They are hunkering down and not spending.

I know many say we’re at bottom and the only thing I can say is if we really are at bottom, we’re going to be here for quite some time. I still say it’s a false bottom. It is a manipulated and well-orchestrated bottom and I doubt sustainable, though everything will be done to try to maintain it.

[jpinpb]

Somewhat OT – I know a small law firm – lawyers been in practice for at least 16 years. They lost their credit line. This is after getting a $12 million judgment. They are hunkering down and not spending.

I know many say we’re at bottom and the only thing I can say is if we really are at bottom, we’re going to be here for quite some time. I still say it’s a false bottom. It is a manipulated and well-orchestrated bottom and I doubt sustainable, though everything will be done to try to maintain it.

[jpinpb]

Somewhat OT – I know a small law firm – lawyers been in practice for at least 16 years. They lost their credit line. This is after getting a $12 million judgment. They are hunkering down and not spending.

I know many say we’re at bottom and the only thing I can say is if we really are at bottom, we’re going to be here for quite some time. I still say it’s a false bottom. It is a manipulated and well-orchestrated bottom and I doubt sustainable, though everything will be done to try to maintain it.

[jpinpb]

Somewhat OT – I know a small law firm – lawyers been in practice for at least 16 years. They lost their credit line. This is after getting a $12 million judgment. They are hunkering down and not spending.

I know many say we’re at bottom and the only thing I can say is if we really are at bottom, we’re going to be here for quite some time. I still say it’s a false bottom. It is a manipulated and well-orchestrated bottom and I doubt sustainable, though everything will be done to try to maintain it.

[jpinpb]

Somewhat OT – I know a small law firm – lawyers been in practice for at least 16 years. They lost their credit line. This is after getting a $12 million judgment. They are hunkering down and not spending.

I know many say we’re at bottom and the only thing I can say is if we really are at bottom, we’re going to be here for quite some time. I still say it’s a false bottom. It is a manipulated and well-orchestrated bottom and I doubt sustainable, though everything will be done to try to maintain it.

[fun4vnay2]

Thanks Cricketonthehearth,
Even my gut feeling says that the bottom is yet to come at the sametime don’t underestimate the power of govt.
They can at least keep the housing prices stagflate for years to come .

Let’s see, only time will come

[fun4vnay2]

Thanks Cricketonthehearth,
Even my gut feeling says that the bottom is yet to come at the sametime don’t underestimate the power of govt.
They can at least keep the housing prices stagflate for years to come .

Let’s see, only time will come

[fun4vnay2]

Thanks Cricketonthehearth,
Even my gut feeling says that the bottom is yet to come at the sametime don’t underestimate the power of govt.
They can at least keep the housing prices stagflate for years to come .

Let’s see, only time will come

[fun4vnay2]

Thanks Cricketonthehearth,
Even my gut feeling says that the bottom is yet to come at the sametime don’t underestimate the power of govt.
They can at least keep the housing prices stagflate for years to come .

Let’s see, only time will come

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