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[an]

[quote=dbapig]
TB issue is just an ‘example.’ When a large portion of the country is uninsured, thus not getting enough preventive health care, we all end up paying MORE eventually.

About the law being ‘rammed’ through, it’s not my preference. I was just laying out what the Dems seems to be thinking. Come to think of it, ramming laws (aka invading other nation) seem to be a rather common thing in US politics.

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No one on this thread replied to my question about South Korea. Again, what is South Korea doing right in providing near universal health care that USA can’t?
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Ramming laws through is only common when one party controls everything. The American people gave them that blank check.

As for us vs SK, well, last I checked, SK doesn’t have the illegal immigrant issue we have. That’s MILLIONS of people. In Texas, 70% of births with uninsured parents are from illegal. Just one example. Also, have you looked at Korean people vs American in term of obesity? If obesity accounts for 25% of the increase in medical care, they probably spend at least 25% less than us, if everything stay the same. There’s really no other country that can give us an apple to apple comparison.

[SD Realtor]

So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.

My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.

Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.

[SD Realtor]

So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.

My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.

Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.

[SD Realtor]

So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.

My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.

Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.

[SD Realtor]

So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.

My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.

Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.

[SD Realtor]

So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.

My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.

Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.

[dbapig]

[quote=SD Realtor]So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.

My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.

Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.[/quote]

Like I said, it was the Dems wanting to ‘ram’ it through. I said I do not like that myself too much. I’m however inclined to believing that if not ‘rammed’ through, nothing will get done. If time is taken to ‘study’ this issue, nothing will be done. Strange logic but that seems to be the way things work in DC. Let me emphasize though me don’t like ‘ramming’ it through.

Funny though. bush/GOP rammed through invading iraq. and Dems ‘ramming’ through (although not done deal) the health care reform. i’d call it even…

How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.

[dbapig]

[quote=SD Realtor]So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.

My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.

Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.[/quote]

Like I said, it was the Dems wanting to ‘ram’ it through. I said I do not like that myself too much. I’m however inclined to believing that if not ‘rammed’ through, nothing will get done. If time is taken to ‘study’ this issue, nothing will be done. Strange logic but that seems to be the way things work in DC. Let me emphasize though me don’t like ‘ramming’ it through.

Funny though. bush/GOP rammed through invading iraq. and Dems ‘ramming’ through (although not done deal) the health care reform. i’d call it even…

How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.

[dbapig]

[quote=SD Realtor]So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.

My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.

Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.[/quote]

Like I said, it was the Dems wanting to ‘ram’ it through. I said I do not like that myself too much. I’m however inclined to believing that if not ‘rammed’ through, nothing will get done. If time is taken to ‘study’ this issue, nothing will be done. Strange logic but that seems to be the way things work in DC. Let me emphasize though me don’t like ‘ramming’ it through.

Funny though. bush/GOP rammed through invading iraq. and Dems ‘ramming’ through (although not done deal) the health care reform. i’d call it even…

How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.

[dbapig]

[quote=SD Realtor]So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.

My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.

Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.[/quote]

Like I said, it was the Dems wanting to ‘ram’ it through. I said I do not like that myself too much. I’m however inclined to believing that if not ‘rammed’ through, nothing will get done. If time is taken to ‘study’ this issue, nothing will be done. Strange logic but that seems to be the way things work in DC. Let me emphasize though me don’t like ‘ramming’ it through.

Funny though. bush/GOP rammed through invading iraq. and Dems ‘ramming’ through (although not done deal) the health care reform. i’d call it even…

How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.

[dbapig]

[quote=SD Realtor]So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.

My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.

Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.[/quote]

Like I said, it was the Dems wanting to ‘ram’ it through. I said I do not like that myself too much. I’m however inclined to believing that if not ‘rammed’ through, nothing will get done. If time is taken to ‘study’ this issue, nothing will be done. Strange logic but that seems to be the way things work in DC. Let me emphasize though me don’t like ‘ramming’ it through.

Funny though. bush/GOP rammed through invading iraq. and Dems ‘ramming’ through (although not done deal) the health care reform. i’d call it even…

How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.

[an]

[quote=dbapig]
How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.[/quote]
Yes, lets please compare. First and foremost, how many illegal immigrants are in any of those western European countries and Canada? That’s enough to mess up the statistics. Secondly, what’s the obesity rate in those countries? Thirdly, what’s the survival rate when you get diagnosed with things like cancer/heart disease? Then compare to the answers of those question to what we have in the US. Once again, what we have is not perfect, but it’s not complete crap either.

[an]

[quote=dbapig]
How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.[/quote]
Yes, lets please compare. First and foremost, how many illegal immigrants are in any of those western European countries and Canada? That’s enough to mess up the statistics. Secondly, what’s the obesity rate in those countries? Thirdly, what’s the survival rate when you get diagnosed with things like cancer/heart disease? Then compare to the answers of those question to what we have in the US. Once again, what we have is not perfect, but it’s not complete crap either.

[an]

[quote=dbapig]
How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.[/quote]
Yes, lets please compare. First and foremost, how many illegal immigrants are in any of those western European countries and Canada? That’s enough to mess up the statistics. Secondly, what’s the obesity rate in those countries? Thirdly, what’s the survival rate when you get diagnosed with things like cancer/heart disease? Then compare to the answers of those question to what we have in the US. Once again, what we have is not perfect, but it’s not complete crap either.

[an]

[quote=dbapig]
How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.[/quote]
Yes, lets please compare. First and foremost, how many illegal immigrants are in any of those western European countries and Canada? That’s enough to mess up the statistics. Secondly, what’s the obesity rate in those countries? Thirdly, what’s the survival rate when you get diagnosed with things like cancer/heart disease? Then compare to the answers of those question to what we have in the US. Once again, what we have is not perfect, but it’s not complete crap either.

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