ObamaCare…coming soon

[an]

[quote=dbapig]
I didn’t say uninsured people is the only reason of spiraling health care cost. It is one of the reasons, don’t ya agree?[/quote]
Yes, I totally agree with this. It’s definitely one of the causes. Why else are hospital below the 8 bleeding cash while hospital above the 8 tend to have profit.

[quote=dbapig]My understanding is (since nothing in firmed up yet) that if you don’t have insurance through employer-based one, than you have to participate in non-profit and/or govt sponsored one.

The fine is an incentive to make sure everyone shares paying for the cost for providing basic health coverage for most americans. I don’t think you need to be scared by the word ‘fine’.[/quote]
I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately? I’ve never seen private businesses that offer customer service, work so slow. I had to wait almost 2 hours just to tell them I need a new driver license, pay, then get a printed paper temp license.

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I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately? I’ve never seen private businesses that offer customer service, work so slow. I had to wait almost 2 hours just to tell them I need a new driver license, pay, then get a printed paper temp license.

AN, did you have an appointment? I am asking because my wife has an appointment there tomorrow. The last time I went there with an appointment, I was in and out pretty quick. But if you don’t have one it takes a looooong time.

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I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately? I’ve never seen private businesses that offer customer service, work so slow. I had to wait almost 2 hours just to tell them I need a new driver license, pay, then get a printed paper temp license.

AN, did you have an appointment? I am asking because my wife has an appointment there tomorrow. The last time I went there with an appointment, I was in and out pretty quick. But if you don’t have one it takes a looooong time.

[blahblahblah]

I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately? I’ve never seen private businesses that offer customer service, work so slow. I had to wait almost 2 hours just to tell them I need a new driver license, pay, then get a printed paper temp license.

AN, did you have an appointment? I am asking because my wife has an appointment there tomorrow. The last time I went there with an appointment, I was in and out pretty quick. But if you don’t have one it takes a looooong time.

[blahblahblah]

I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately? I’ve never seen private businesses that offer customer service, work so slow. I had to wait almost 2 hours just to tell them I need a new driver license, pay, then get a printed paper temp license.

AN, did you have an appointment? I am asking because my wife has an appointment there tomorrow. The last time I went there with an appointment, I was in and out pretty quick. But if you don’t have one it takes a looooong time.

[blahblahblah]

I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately? I’ve never seen private businesses that offer customer service, work so slow. I had to wait almost 2 hours just to tell them I need a new driver license, pay, then get a printed paper temp license.

AN, did you have an appointment? I am asking because my wife has an appointment there tomorrow. The last time I went there with an appointment, I was in and out pretty quick. But if you don’t have one it takes a looooong time.

[an]

[quote=CONCHO]I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately? I’ve never seen private businesses that offer customer service, work so slow. I had to wait almost 2 hours just to tell them I need a new driver license, pay, then get a printed paper temp license.

AN, did you have an appointment? I am asking because my wife has an appointment there tomorrow. The last time I went there with an appointment, I was in and out pretty quick. But if you don’t have one it takes a looooong time.[/quote]
Unfortunately, we didn’t. We didn’t know that we can make an appointment, until we saw the sign. I don’t think 95% of the people there know about it either, since everybody was in line and very few people went to the appointment window. I definitely will use next time. However, I do noticed there’s a huge difference between the different DMV too. O-side DMV wasn’t as crowded as the Clairemont one. I think Poway one wouldn’t be as bad either. I wasn’t thinking, so I went to the Clairemont one, w/out an appointment. But it really should be as simple as calling up the DMV and asking them to send us another license and pay. Kind of like what you do when you lose your credit card. Just call them, and they’ll send you another one to the same address on file.

[an]

[quote=CONCHO]I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately? I’ve never seen private businesses that offer customer service, work so slow. I had to wait almost 2 hours just to tell them I need a new driver license, pay, then get a printed paper temp license.

AN, did you have an appointment? I am asking because my wife has an appointment there tomorrow. The last time I went there with an appointment, I was in and out pretty quick. But if you don’t have one it takes a looooong time.[/quote]
Unfortunately, we didn’t. We didn’t know that we can make an appointment, until we saw the sign. I don’t think 95% of the people there know about it either, since everybody was in line and very few people went to the appointment window. I definitely will use next time. However, I do noticed there’s a huge difference between the different DMV too. O-side DMV wasn’t as crowded as the Clairemont one. I think Poway one wouldn’t be as bad either. I wasn’t thinking, so I went to the Clairemont one, w/out an appointment. But it really should be as simple as calling up the DMV and asking them to send us another license and pay. Kind of like what you do when you lose your credit card. Just call them, and they’ll send you another one to the same address on file.

[an]

[quote=CONCHO]I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately? I’ve never seen private businesses that offer customer service, work so slow. I had to wait almost 2 hours just to tell them I need a new driver license, pay, then get a printed paper temp license.

AN, did you have an appointment? I am asking because my wife has an appointment there tomorrow. The last time I went there with an appointment, I was in and out pretty quick. But if you don’t have one it takes a looooong time.[/quote]
Unfortunately, we didn’t. We didn’t know that we can make an appointment, until we saw the sign. I don’t think 95% of the people there know about it either, since everybody was in line and very few people went to the appointment window. I definitely will use next time. However, I do noticed there’s a huge difference between the different DMV too. O-side DMV wasn’t as crowded as the Clairemont one. I think Poway one wouldn’t be as bad either. I wasn’t thinking, so I went to the Clairemont one, w/out an appointment. But it really should be as simple as calling up the DMV and asking them to send us another license and pay. Kind of like what you do when you lose your credit card. Just call them, and they’ll send you another one to the same address on file.

[an]

[quote=CONCHO]I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately? I’ve never seen private businesses that offer customer service, work so slow. I had to wait almost 2 hours just to tell them I need a new driver license, pay, then get a printed paper temp license.

AN, did you have an appointment? I am asking because my wife has an appointment there tomorrow. The last time I went there with an appointment, I was in and out pretty quick. But if you don’t have one it takes a looooong time.[/quote]
Unfortunately, we didn’t. We didn’t know that we can make an appointment, until we saw the sign. I don’t think 95% of the people there know about it either, since everybody was in line and very few people went to the appointment window. I definitely will use next time. However, I do noticed there’s a huge difference between the different DMV too. O-side DMV wasn’t as crowded as the Clairemont one. I think Poway one wouldn’t be as bad either. I wasn’t thinking, so I went to the Clairemont one, w/out an appointment. But it really should be as simple as calling up the DMV and asking them to send us another license and pay. Kind of like what you do when you lose your credit card. Just call them, and they’ll send you another one to the same address on file.

[an]

[quote=CONCHO]I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately? I’ve never seen private businesses that offer customer service, work so slow. I had to wait almost 2 hours just to tell them I need a new driver license, pay, then get a printed paper temp license.

AN, did you have an appointment? I am asking because my wife has an appointment there tomorrow. The last time I went there with an appointment, I was in and out pretty quick. But if you don’t have one it takes a looooong time.[/quote]
Unfortunately, we didn’t. We didn’t know that we can make an appointment, until we saw the sign. I don’t think 95% of the people there know about it either, since everybody was in line and very few people went to the appointment window. I definitely will use next time. However, I do noticed there’s a huge difference between the different DMV too. O-side DMV wasn’t as crowded as the Clairemont one. I think Poway one wouldn’t be as bad either. I wasn’t thinking, so I went to the Clairemont one, w/out an appointment. But it really should be as simple as calling up the DMV and asking them to send us another license and pay. Kind of like what you do when you lose your credit card. Just call them, and they’ll send you another one to the same address on file.

[dbapig]

[quote=AN]
I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately?[/quote]

Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.

Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.

Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.

Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.

Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.

[dbapig]

[quote=AN]
I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately?[/quote]

Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.

Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.

Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.

Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.

Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.

[dbapig]

[quote=AN]
I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately?[/quote]

Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.

Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.

Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.

Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.

Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.

[dbapig]

[quote=AN]
I personally don’t think we NEED a non-profit and/or govt sponsored option. Have you tried to go to the DMV lately?[/quote]

Do you sleep with a gun in your bed? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.

Do you drive around with an armored car, which many middle class people in Brazil do? No, because we have police, managed by the govt.

Do you drive on dirt roads for everyday normal driving? No, because we have Caltran, managed by the govt.

Do you worry about your country being invaded and conquered by foreign army, like Iraqis before US conquered it? (Never mind the consequences). No, because we have the armed forces, managed by the govt.

Operations by govt have their issues, no doubt. But current health insurance/care is far worse than what govt can do.

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