NCTimes Article – Murrietta family loses home

[Ricechex]

Gotta love the Piggs….a well written post from Lisa Daniels herself! Admire the audacity, or shall we call it, stupidity? And the Super Nanny show. Good Gawd. The entire debacle is disgusting.

[scaredyclassic]

somehow this makes me hate real estate. I feel dirty for even wanting a nice place. I don’t want to be equated with this …

the summary from the supernanny episode:

Lisa and Steve Daniels have six beautiful children ranging in age from 2 to 13. However, spitting, cursing, hitting, nasty threats and general misbehavior are commonplace among the kids. The kids are so out of control that the parents have given up on trying to manage them or teach them otherwise. Jo tells both parents that they’re lazy and need to grow up and be parents. The biggest showdown is between Lisa and Jo when Lisa refuses to follow through on a two-minute time out with her youngest.

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wow. who in the hell would go on this show and have your parenting bared naked for the world to see?

there is some connection between the lack of discipline int he family perhaps and the lack of financial discipline.

6 kids in need of a supernanny.

man oh man…

real estate, finances are the least of their problems…schadenfreude, perhaps, but this is making me feel pretty good and proud of my own patch of existence. i am doing really well. in fact, i’d downright freaking cheerfullll

[scaredyclassic]

somehow this makes me hate real estate. I feel dirty for even wanting a nice place. I don’t want to be equated with this …

the summary from the supernanny episode:

Lisa and Steve Daniels have six beautiful children ranging in age from 2 to 13. However, spitting, cursing, hitting, nasty threats and general misbehavior are commonplace among the kids. The kids are so out of control that the parents have given up on trying to manage them or teach them otherwise. Jo tells both parents that they’re lazy and need to grow up and be parents. The biggest showdown is between Lisa and Jo when Lisa refuses to follow through on a two-minute time out with her youngest.

….

wow. who in the hell would go on this show and have your parenting bared naked for the world to see?

there is some connection between the lack of discipline int he family perhaps and the lack of financial discipline.

6 kids in need of a supernanny.

man oh man…

real estate, finances are the least of their problems…schadenfreude, perhaps, but this is making me feel pretty good and proud of my own patch of existence. i am doing really well. in fact, i’d downright freaking cheerfullll

[scaredyclassic]

somehow this makes me hate real estate. I feel dirty for even wanting a nice place. I don’t want to be equated with this …

the summary from the supernanny episode:

Lisa and Steve Daniels have six beautiful children ranging in age from 2 to 13. However, spitting, cursing, hitting, nasty threats and general misbehavior are commonplace among the kids. The kids are so out of control that the parents have given up on trying to manage them or teach them otherwise. Jo tells both parents that they’re lazy and need to grow up and be parents. The biggest showdown is between Lisa and Jo when Lisa refuses to follow through on a two-minute time out with her youngest.

….

wow. who in the hell would go on this show and have your parenting bared naked for the world to see?

there is some connection between the lack of discipline int he family perhaps and the lack of financial discipline.

6 kids in need of a supernanny.

man oh man…

real estate, finances are the least of their problems…schadenfreude, perhaps, but this is making me feel pretty good and proud of my own patch of existence. i am doing really well. in fact, i’d downright freaking cheerfullll

[scaredyclassic]

somehow this makes me hate real estate. I feel dirty for even wanting a nice place. I don’t want to be equated with this …

the summary from the supernanny episode:

Lisa and Steve Daniels have six beautiful children ranging in age from 2 to 13. However, spitting, cursing, hitting, nasty threats and general misbehavior are commonplace among the kids. The kids are so out of control that the parents have given up on trying to manage them or teach them otherwise. Jo tells both parents that they’re lazy and need to grow up and be parents. The biggest showdown is between Lisa and Jo when Lisa refuses to follow through on a two-minute time out with her youngest.

….

wow. who in the hell would go on this show and have your parenting bared naked for the world to see?

there is some connection between the lack of discipline int he family perhaps and the lack of financial discipline.

6 kids in need of a supernanny.

man oh man…

real estate, finances are the least of their problems…schadenfreude, perhaps, but this is making me feel pretty good and proud of my own patch of existence. i am doing really well. in fact, i’d downright freaking cheerfullll

[scaredyclassic]

somehow this makes me hate real estate. I feel dirty for even wanting a nice place. I don’t want to be equated with this …

the summary from the supernanny episode:

Lisa and Steve Daniels have six beautiful children ranging in age from 2 to 13. However, spitting, cursing, hitting, nasty threats and general misbehavior are commonplace among the kids. The kids are so out of control that the parents have given up on trying to manage them or teach them otherwise. Jo tells both parents that they’re lazy and need to grow up and be parents. The biggest showdown is between Lisa and Jo when Lisa refuses to follow through on a two-minute time out with her youngest.

….

wow. who in the hell would go on this show and have your parenting bared naked for the world to see?

there is some connection between the lack of discipline int he family perhaps and the lack of financial discipline.

6 kids in need of a supernanny.

man oh man…

real estate, finances are the least of their problems…schadenfreude, perhaps, but this is making me feel pretty good and proud of my own patch of existence. i am doing really well. in fact, i’d downright freaking cheerfullll

[ucodegen]

I was struck by that also. But it actually might be a realistic figure. I’m more than a little familiar with the challenges of hillside development. (We built a companion unit on a sloped hill.) I assume this “grading and design” included the following:

I was wondering about that.. but I have also built on a hillside, and there are two areas you get really hit, but not this bad. If you are keeping with fairly ‘standard’ construction and standard building code, these costs are severely reduced. The soils engineer was not that much of a problem for us, though we did multiple perk tests(septic in that area) and had the soils engineer out as we were drilling the holes for the perk (this way he can look at the drill tailings). The work I was dealing with was where the house was on a slope, hitting bedrock on one side at 2 feet. This meant that the whole house had to be on bedrock (foundation flex issues). We had to go down over 8 feet on the other side of the house (thankfully the backhoe with the extending boom could just reach the bedrock on that side, but it was touch and go. 9 cubic yards of concrete in one corner 8-( .).

The last kicks in (OSHA) if there are footings of a certain depth or if retaining walls are a certain height. 5 or 6 feet from top of wall to bottom of footing. If you’re building on a hillside, you have big retaining walls to secure the building pad.

Did one of those two. House was dug into hillside, slope intersected at 10 feet for almost the entire width of the house. ‘Retaining wall’ was also back wall of house for the first story.

With 3 houses on similar situations above, we didn’t hit $250k(inflation adjusted) on the total..

Considering what I read about the kids right before my post.. I wonder if the parents are the type of people who keep changing their mind on the design and layout, and try to change the grading plan when the dozers are already there and working. Great way to run up the costs.. (when building a house, got to get a plan and stick to it).

[ucodegen]

I was struck by that also. But it actually might be a realistic figure. I’m more than a little familiar with the challenges of hillside development. (We built a companion unit on a sloped hill.) I assume this “grading and design” included the following:

I was wondering about that.. but I have also built on a hillside, and there are two areas you get really hit, but not this bad. If you are keeping with fairly ‘standard’ construction and standard building code, these costs are severely reduced. The soils engineer was not that much of a problem for us, though we did multiple perk tests(septic in that area) and had the soils engineer out as we were drilling the holes for the perk (this way he can look at the drill tailings). The work I was dealing with was where the house was on a slope, hitting bedrock on one side at 2 feet. This meant that the whole house had to be on bedrock (foundation flex issues). We had to go down over 8 feet on the other side of the house (thankfully the backhoe with the extending boom could just reach the bedrock on that side, but it was touch and go. 9 cubic yards of concrete in one corner 8-( .).

The last kicks in (OSHA) if there are footings of a certain depth or if retaining walls are a certain height. 5 or 6 feet from top of wall to bottom of footing. If you’re building on a hillside, you have big retaining walls to secure the building pad.

Did one of those two. House was dug into hillside, slope intersected at 10 feet for almost the entire width of the house. ‘Retaining wall’ was also back wall of house for the first story.

With 3 houses on similar situations above, we didn’t hit $250k(inflation adjusted) on the total..

Considering what I read about the kids right before my post.. I wonder if the parents are the type of people who keep changing their mind on the design and layout, and try to change the grading plan when the dozers are already there and working. Great way to run up the costs.. (when building a house, got to get a plan and stick to it).

[ucodegen]

I was struck by that also. But it actually might be a realistic figure. I’m more than a little familiar with the challenges of hillside development. (We built a companion unit on a sloped hill.) I assume this “grading and design” included the following:

I was wondering about that.. but I have also built on a hillside, and there are two areas you get really hit, but not this bad. If you are keeping with fairly ‘standard’ construction and standard building code, these costs are severely reduced. The soils engineer was not that much of a problem for us, though we did multiple perk tests(septic in that area) and had the soils engineer out as we were drilling the holes for the perk (this way he can look at the drill tailings). The work I was dealing with was where the house was on a slope, hitting bedrock on one side at 2 feet. This meant that the whole house had to be on bedrock (foundation flex issues). We had to go down over 8 feet on the other side of the house (thankfully the backhoe with the extending boom could just reach the bedrock on that side, but it was touch and go. 9 cubic yards of concrete in one corner 8-( .).

The last kicks in (OSHA) if there are footings of a certain depth or if retaining walls are a certain height. 5 or 6 feet from top of wall to bottom of footing. If you’re building on a hillside, you have big retaining walls to secure the building pad.

Did one of those two. House was dug into hillside, slope intersected at 10 feet for almost the entire width of the house. ‘Retaining wall’ was also back wall of house for the first story.

With 3 houses on similar situations above, we didn’t hit $250k(inflation adjusted) on the total..

Considering what I read about the kids right before my post.. I wonder if the parents are the type of people who keep changing their mind on the design and layout, and try to change the grading plan when the dozers are already there and working. Great way to run up the costs.. (when building a house, got to get a plan and stick to it).

[ucodegen]

I was struck by that also. But it actually might be a realistic figure. I’m more than a little familiar with the challenges of hillside development. (We built a companion unit on a sloped hill.) I assume this “grading and design” included the following:

I was wondering about that.. but I have also built on a hillside, and there are two areas you get really hit, but not this bad. If you are keeping with fairly ‘standard’ construction and standard building code, these costs are severely reduced. The soils engineer was not that much of a problem for us, though we did multiple perk tests(septic in that area) and had the soils engineer out as we were drilling the holes for the perk (this way he can look at the drill tailings). The work I was dealing with was where the house was on a slope, hitting bedrock on one side at 2 feet. This meant that the whole house had to be on bedrock (foundation flex issues). We had to go down over 8 feet on the other side of the house (thankfully the backhoe with the extending boom could just reach the bedrock on that side, but it was touch and go. 9 cubic yards of concrete in one corner 8-( .).

The last kicks in (OSHA) if there are footings of a certain depth or if retaining walls are a certain height. 5 or 6 feet from top of wall to bottom of footing. If you’re building on a hillside, you have big retaining walls to secure the building pad.

Did one of those two. House was dug into hillside, slope intersected at 10 feet for almost the entire width of the house. ‘Retaining wall’ was also back wall of house for the first story.

With 3 houses on similar situations above, we didn’t hit $250k(inflation adjusted) on the total..

Considering what I read about the kids right before my post.. I wonder if the parents are the type of people who keep changing their mind on the design and layout, and try to change the grading plan when the dozers are already there and working. Great way to run up the costs.. (when building a house, got to get a plan and stick to it).

[ucodegen]

I was struck by that also. But it actually might be a realistic figure. I’m more than a little familiar with the challenges of hillside development. (We built a companion unit on a sloped hill.) I assume this “grading and design” included the following:

I was wondering about that.. but I have also built on a hillside, and there are two areas you get really hit, but not this bad. If you are keeping with fairly ‘standard’ construction and standard building code, these costs are severely reduced. The soils engineer was not that much of a problem for us, though we did multiple perk tests(septic in that area) and had the soils engineer out as we were drilling the holes for the perk (this way he can look at the drill tailings). The work I was dealing with was where the house was on a slope, hitting bedrock on one side at 2 feet. This meant that the whole house had to be on bedrock (foundation flex issues). We had to go down over 8 feet on the other side of the house (thankfully the backhoe with the extending boom could just reach the bedrock on that side, but it was touch and go. 9 cubic yards of concrete in one corner 8-( .).

The last kicks in (OSHA) if there are footings of a certain depth or if retaining walls are a certain height. 5 or 6 feet from top of wall to bottom of footing. If you’re building on a hillside, you have big retaining walls to secure the building pad.

Did one of those two. House was dug into hillside, slope intersected at 10 feet for almost the entire width of the house. ‘Retaining wall’ was also back wall of house for the first story.

With 3 houses on similar situations above, we didn’t hit $250k(inflation adjusted) on the total..

Considering what I read about the kids right before my post.. I wonder if the parents are the type of people who keep changing their mind on the design and layout, and try to change the grading plan when the dozers are already there and working. Great way to run up the costs.. (when building a house, got to get a plan and stick to it).

[CBad]

Wow. Let’s just be happy she went back and got her RE license and not a teaching credential.

“Jo tells both parents that they’re lazy and need to grow up and be parents.” That sums it up nicely for pretty much all their problems except the grammar variety.

[CBad]

Wow. Let’s just be happy she went back and got her RE license and not a teaching credential.

“Jo tells both parents that they’re lazy and need to grow up and be parents.” That sums it up nicely for pretty much all their problems except the grammar variety.

[CBad]

Wow. Let’s just be happy she went back and got her RE license and not a teaching credential.

“Jo tells both parents that they’re lazy and need to grow up and be parents.” That sums it up nicely for pretty much all their problems except the grammar variety.

[CBad]

Wow. Let’s just be happy she went back and got her RE license and not a teaching credential.

“Jo tells both parents that they’re lazy and need to grow up and be parents.” That sums it up nicely for pretty much all their problems except the grammar variety.

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