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[NotCranky]

You are really asking for it now JG!
On that note I think I will go to bed!
Best wishes.

[cyphire]

Ahhh jg.. Until now I thought you had your head together!!!

What do you call religion? The uber-drug!

My kids have awesome morals and a highly developed social conscious… We do all that without outsourcing to a fantasy. This isn’t the thread for it but in my opinion religion doesn’t seem to do anything positive to a kids development other than fill their heads with lies and teaches prejudice.

Bishops is an awesome school… The children who attend are Episcopalians, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Budhists and even Athiests!

Each to his own I guess – but it’s sad to keep hearing the same tired platitude from people that ‘religion = morality’. Your idea that religion in school keeps drugs out is quite a bold concept and a statement made with blinders on. Kids get their values from their parents and environment. The more religious the environment – the less openness. So religion is sometimes the problem, it sure isn’t a solution.

Places like Francis Parker, LJCDS, and even Bishop’s have drug problems. Rich kids with indifferent parents will always get the best drugs. Religious school or secular. Poke around and take off the blinders – you might get an epiphany!

[cyphire]

Ahhh jg.. Until now I thought you had your head together!!!

What do you call religion? The uber-drug!

My kids have awesome morals and a highly developed social conscious… We do all that without outsourcing to a fantasy. This isn’t the thread for it but in my opinion religion doesn’t seem to do anything positive to a kids development other than fill their heads with lies and teaches prejudice.

Bishops is an awesome school… The children who attend are Episcopalians, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Budhists and even Athiests!

Each to his own I guess – but it’s sad to keep hearing the same tired platitude from people that ‘religion = morality’. Your idea that religion in school keeps drugs out is quite a bold concept and a statement made with blinders on. Kids get their values from their parents and environment. The more religious the environment – the less openness. So religion is sometimes the problem, it sure isn’t a solution.

Places like Francis Parker, LJCDS, and even Bishop’s have drug problems. Rich kids with indifferent parents will always get the best drugs. Religious school or secular. Poke around and take off the blinders – you might get an epiphany!

[Drew]

jg,

Having attended public schools my entire life, and had many friends and a few girlfriends that attended private religious schools, I say this in response to your statement:

ahem… “HAHAHHAHAHAHHA”

Some of the most strung out, permisquis, socially screwed up people I grew up with attended private religious schools here in San Diego. That said, many of them turned out fairly well and sucessful later in life. But at the end of the day, I feel that proper parenting plays a greater roll, along with the avenues (socially, academically, etc) provided.

To say that the only way to raise a properly adjusted, socially responsible child is to enroll them into a private school (religious or not), shows a disconnect from reality. If you would like to raise good kids and eventually adults, enroll them in a good school (public or private), be a responsible parent, and understand that the remainder requires the kid to make the right decisions on their own.

[Drew]

jg,

Having attended public schools my entire life, and had many friends and a few girlfriends that attended private religious schools, I say this in response to your statement:

ahem… “HAHAHHAHAHAHHA”

Some of the most strung out, permisquis, socially screwed up people I grew up with attended private religious schools here in San Diego. That said, many of them turned out fairly well and sucessful later in life. But at the end of the day, I feel that proper parenting plays a greater roll, along with the avenues (socially, academically, etc) provided.

To say that the only way to raise a properly adjusted, socially responsible child is to enroll them into a private school (religious or not), shows a disconnect from reality. If you would like to raise good kids and eventually adults, enroll them in a good school (public or private), be a responsible parent, and understand that the remainder requires the kid to make the right decisions on their own.

[lostkitty]

JG- You must be KIDDING me (or yourself)… you can't seriously believe what you wrote about Bishop's. My first serious boyfriend went to Bishop's. he and all his friends had one persona for the adults to see (nice haircuts, clean cars and clothes, decent grades) and a completely OTHER persona on their own. i went to all their parties, and let me tell you… those kids were nuts! MUCH worse than the TPHS kids. The drugs were rampant. Many had international connections to drugs and it flowed freely. And.. dont forget this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Phillip_Cunanan

[lostkitty]

JG- You must be KIDDING me (or yourself)… you can't seriously believe what you wrote about Bishop's. My first serious boyfriend went to Bishop's. he and all his friends had one persona for the adults to see (nice haircuts, clean cars and clothes, decent grades) and a completely OTHER persona on their own. i went to all their parties, and let me tell you… those kids were nuts! MUCH worse than the TPHS kids. The drugs were rampant. Many had international connections to drugs and it flowed freely. And.. dont forget this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Phillip_Cunanan

[latesummer2008]

Lostkitty,

Touche!!!!!!!!!!

[latesummer2008]

Lostkitty,

Touche!!!!!!!!!!

[lostkitty]

Thank you very much… I’ll be here all week….

[lostkitty]

Thank you very much… I’ll be here all week….

[NotCranky]

Not to ruin anyone’s Sunday brunch but my intuition pestered me about the possibilty of molestation in his private school or church playing a part in Cunanan’s moral decay. Was Bishop’s or and related church if there is one ever said to be involved the molestation scandals that have been brought to light nationwide?

[NotCranky]

Not to ruin anyone’s Sunday brunch but my intuition pestered me about the possibilty of molestation in his private school or church playing a part in Cunanan’s moral decay. Was Bishop’s or and related church if there is one ever said to be involved the molestation scandals that have been brought to light nationwide?

[cyphire]

You wouldnt find that in Bishop’s – it’s not a private Catholic school or a very repressed school like Evan’s. It’s an open, warm, amazing school with teachers who are at the top of their form.

I do know, however, that some seniors, with LOTS of money do quite a bit of molestation – but I’m assuming that most of it is mutual.

I’m hoping that religion in schools gets supplanted by civics and tolerance classes. Again – the lessons kids get at home and the supervision is critical. And of course kids in wealthy private schools need the same or better supervision because of the easy access to credit (sounds like the mortgage/equity market problem!)

Great posts all – and I’ve seen some things at Bishop’s and other schools which, unfortuntely I can’t post…. But it wasn’t because of religion in the school!

[cyphire]

You wouldnt find that in Bishop’s – it’s not a private Catholic school or a very repressed school like Evan’s. It’s an open, warm, amazing school with teachers who are at the top of their form.

I do know, however, that some seniors, with LOTS of money do quite a bit of molestation – but I’m assuming that most of it is mutual.

I’m hoping that religion in schools gets supplanted by civics and tolerance classes. Again – the lessons kids get at home and the supervision is critical. And of course kids in wealthy private schools need the same or better supervision because of the easy access to credit (sounds like the mortgage/equity market problem!)

Great posts all – and I’ve seen some things at Bishop’s and other schools which, unfortuntely I can’t post…. But it wasn’t because of religion in the school!

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