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[SK in CV]

[quote=FlyerInHi]I love Bill Mayer. Hope no allegations surface against him.[/quote]

Who is that? A cross between Bill Moyers and Bill Maher?

[njtosd]

[quote=FlyerInHi]njtosd, some people believe that the context of past times apply and they use that to justify their heroes. And some people still use old historical texts to justify present behavior.

However, I believe we need to evolve with the times and reject anachronistic ideas. Judge people on how they address things in the present, by our own standards.[/quote]

Again I say, oh please. This quote may have gotten you a B on your middle school civics essay, but it is ridiculous in the present context.

and PS: Please tell me in what historical context it was appropriate to let a young girl drown in order to avoid exposing your extramarital affairs?

[NotCranky]

Wasn’t it Louis CK who said, If you like laws, sausages or youth sports, you should never watch any of them being made” ?

BTW, infinite numbers of females have rubbed their stuff on men without asking, when trying to get a better deal on a car, or a kitchen remodel , or get a good or free deal on having closets lined with cedar, or they have used ploys to like, “I need my stove fixed” to get a man with higher sexual market value into their lair, so they can make a hard pass on them. How about rubbing on a guy to make their boyfriend jealous? Men don’t have the market corned on groping or other forms of “sexual misconduct”….and that’s funny.

[Anonymous]

[quote=njtosd]and PS: Please tell me in what historical context it was appropriate to let a young girl drown in order to avoid exposing your extramarital affairs?[/quote]

The woman that was killed in Kennedy’s car accident was 28. He was reckless and negligent, but he never deliberately intended to hurt anyone.

The girl Roy Moore tried to diddle was 14. She was one of many.

Big difference.

[NotCranky]

http://krqe.com/2017/11/12/new-mexico-congressional-candidate-arrested-on-stalking-charge/

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=NotCranky]Wasn’t it Louis CK who said, If you like laws, sausages or youth sports, you should never watch any of them being made” ?

BTW, infinite numbers of females have rubbed their stuff on men without asking, when trying to get a better deal on a car, or a kitchen remodel , or get a good or free deal on having closets lined with cedar, or they have used ploys to like, “I need my stove fixed” to get a man with higher sexual market value into their lair, so they can make a hard pass on them. How about rubbing on a guy to make their boyfriend jealous? Men don’t have the market corned on groping or other forms of “sexual misconduct”….and that’s funny.[/quote]

I think seduction is ok. But using physical, economic or social power to coerce and force is not ok. So a female could say “you’re so muscular and sexy” without that being considered harassment. And she can gaze with seductive eyes or dress in a “distracting” manner.

If we lived in an Amazon type society where women had power and could coerce men as boytoys then the situation would be different.

A lot of rich powerful men don’t understand seduction. They want to buy everything in a transactional manner.

As a man, I’m ok with giving up power because power comes with lots of obligations and responsibilities also.

[njtosd]

[quote=NotCranky]Wasn’t it Louis CK who said, If you like laws, sausages or youth sports, you should never watch any of them being made” ?

[/quote]

The quote (minus the reference to youth sports) is as old as the hills. In terms of your views of women, perhaps that’s your experience but it seems very out of the ordinary to me.

[njtosd]

[quote=harvey][quote=njtosd]and PS: Please tell me in what historical context it was appropriate to let a young girl drown in order to avoid exposing your extramarital affairs?[/quote]

The woman that was killed in Kennedy’s car accident was 28. He was reckless and negligent, but he never deliberately intended to hurt anyone.

The girl Roy Moore tried to diddle was 14. She was one of many.

Big difference.[/quote]

I agree with you, to a point – I could easily argue that the failure to assist when you’ve put someone in a desperate situation shows some intent. I don’t defend Roy Moore – he seems like a stereotypical dirty old man and my guess is he’s done just what he’s accused of. My point in responding to Brian is, and I’ve made it before, I’m not seeing either side decidedly perched on the moral high ground. And if Brian needs another example, let’s consider (former) Seattle Mayor Ed Murray. So far I believe he’s been accused of molestation by 5 children. And how could we forget Anthony Weiner? I don’t see him as a real “family values” kind of guy.

[Anonymous]

[quote=njtosd]I agree with you, to a point – I could easily argue that the failure to assist when you’ve put someone in a desperate situation shows some intent. I don’t defend Roy Moore – he seems like a stereotypical dirty old man and my guess is he’s done just what he’s accused of. My point in responding to Brian is, and I’ve made it before, I’m not seeing either side decidedly perched on the moral high ground. And if Brian needs another example, let’s consider (former) Seattle Mayor Ed Murray. So far I believe he’s been accused of molestation by 5 children. And how could we forget Anthony Weiner? I don’t see him as a real “family values” kind of guy.[/quote]

Every large population is going to have a few sleazeballs and criminals. The political parties are large populations. It’s not surprising or interesting that we find these few examples across the spectrum.

The key difference is that one party claims to be better qualified to lead the country because they represent, and set the example, for moral principles. They specifically claim to be perched on the moral high ground. It’s central to their platform. It’s their brand.

Your comparisons don’t hold water.

Ed Murray is the former mayor of Seattle – removed from office and disgraced. Anthony Weiner is in jail. Nobody is defending them or their actions. They are rightfully disgraced and disowned by their political party.

Roy Moore still has prominent figures in the media defending him. The president has not even said anything critical about his deeds. Based on recent polls, it is still possible that he will be elected senator.

There is something severely fucked up with the Republican party. One can no longer claim “both sides are the same” without ignoring basic ethics and logic.

[NotCranky]

I don’t agree that one party exclusively makes claims that their moral values are the to go to decrease depravity or have a better humanity in this country.

The progressives think that all the SjW programs and version of humanity , which we must assume they apply to themselves, is the best way and if you aren’t a devotee then you are thrown in the unprotected class bucket,deplorables if you will. This attitude has not lessened the occurrence of “sleaze balls and criminals” amongst them. Or, in my opinion even brought their constituents to higher ground on the whole than any other party.

[NotCranky]

[quote=njtosd][quote=NotCranky]Wasn’t it Louis CK who said, If you like laws, sausages or youth sports, you should never watch any of them being made” ?

[/quote]

The quote (minus the reference to youth sports) is as old as the hills. In terms of your views of women, perhaps that’s your experience but it seems very out of the ordinary to me.[/quote]

Please don’t equate some observations of some women with my views of women. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

[quote=NotCranky]I don’t agree that one party exclusively makes claims that their moral values are the to go to decrease depravity or have a better humanity in this country.

The progressives think that all the SjW programs and version of humanity , which we must assume they apply to themselves, is the best way and if you aren’t a devotee then you are thrown in the unprotected class bucket,deplorables if you will. This attitude has not lessened the occurrence of “sleaze balls and criminals” amongst them. Or, in my opinion even brought their constituents to higher ground on the whole than any other party.[/quote]

Swing and a miss.

Family values. Protecting the sanctity of marriage. Protecting children from sexual deviants. These are all Republican themes.

You’d add more to the conversation if you understood the difference between molesting a child and calling someone a name.

[FlyerInHi]

Oh no! Charlie Rose is a pervert. Can’t watch him anymore.

[carlsbadworker]

Focus on the work, away from the character.

[FlyerInHi]

Charlie Rose is so civilized. Big disappointment.

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