Leaving California!

[spdrun]

One of the things about SF that I think is an eyesore is the huge amount of overhead lines on many streets

Nah, it can be done. Keep in mind that Manhattan has some very rocky parts, and almost all electric is underground. SF also has a lot of overhead wiring to power electric buses, which actually serves a useful purpose. As far as kids in SF, keep in mind the city’s high % of gays. Yeah, yeah, gays can marry and have kids. But fewer of them do than straight couples, on average.

Lastly, pretty views — how about this one (taken before the storm, d/k what it looks like now)? It’s NYC, but a lot of people say Seattle or SF when they see it:

[spdrun]

Tell me, what does $400k get you in SF?

No point in buying for $400k in SF. Rent, exploit the ridic. landlord-tenant laws, and buy a few rentals across the bay or in points south to fund your rent.

[spdrun]

… I see your political leanings don’t jive very well with the bulk of folks inhabiting all of your fav cities (except for Austin – is it red or blue??)

And except for Burlington, VT. Vermont is liberal in some ways, but it’s mixed in with a streak of old-school New England conservatism and love of personal responsibility. It’s not nanny-state, take-but-not-give California “liberalism.” Oh, and if you’re into that sort of thing, you can carry a pistol legally without a permit, though it’s considered impolite under many circumstances.

[spdrun]

I don’t like Carlsbad.

What’s your problem with the immediately coastal area of C’bad? Decent beach, and some very cute buildings. It’s not Maine, the Hamptons, or even the Jersey Shore, but it’s not horribly unattractive in my book.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]

Tell me, what does $400k get you in SF?

No point in buying for $400k in SF. Rent, exploit the ridic. landlord-tenant laws, and buy a few rentals across the bay or in points south to fund your rent.[/quote]
What can you rent for $1800-2000 in SF? Have you tried raising a family of 4 in a 275 sq-ft studio? http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/3384380519.html

[spdrun]

SF has a lack of condos. What can you buy for $400k that’s much better than that studio? For $1800/mo, you can rent a 2 br in the hood or a 1 br in an ok area.

Or you can buy income property in Oakland for 7-8% cap and use the income to offset your rent in the city.

The market in SF is much more f’ed up than even Manhattan. I have a studio apt that could be a nice 1 br, but if I wanted to live near Columbia University (decent area with slightly bad rep), there are 2-3 br apts that show up for under $400k periodically.

[an]

spdrun, you really fail to see the point. My response was ctr70, who was trying to compare Clairemont to SF. Someone who have enough money to buy investment properties with cap rate of 7-8% and have enough income from those investment properties to live in SF would not be consider Clairemont. That’s the point. Trying to say SD is crappy and SF is great because of area like Clairemont is retarded.

SOMA is not the greatest part of SF, yet for $1950, you can rent a 275 sq-ft studio. If you really want to compare apple to apple, you can compare that studio in SOMA to this: http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/apa/3380888812.html. I would say Gaslamp area is > SOMA, 940 sq-ft > 275 sq-ft, etc.

[spdrun]

See also:
http://sanfrancisco.craigslist.org/search/apa/sfc?query=&srchType=A&minAsk=1500&maxAsk=2000&bedrooms=1

The 275 sf studio is a bit of an extreme example. Made possible by the recent tech bubblelet (hoping this ends as well as the ca. 2000 NASDAQ runup and the Fecebook IPO). Though I have to say that it’s strange to see asking rents in meh areas of SF near Manhattan levels.

[an]

Any in areas comparable to Gaslamp and 920 sq-ft? I see one in SOMA for $2k, you can share a 1000 sq-ft 2/2. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/3384865355.html So, for 1000 sq-ft in SOMA, your total cost is around $4k. Again, I think Gaslamp > SOMA. SOMA feels more like East village to me. Stuff are cheaper in East village than Gaslamp.

BTW, what would something like this cost in SF: http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-120049503-700_Front_St_2302_San_Diego_CA_92101?

[CA renter]

[quote=AN]Any in areas comparable to Gaslamp and 920 sq-ft? I see one in SOMA for $2k, you can share a 1000 sq-ft 2/2. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/3384865355.html So, for 1000 sq-ft in SOMA, your total cost is around $4k. Again, I think Gaslamp > SOMA. SOMA feels more like East village to me. Stuff are cheaper in East village than Gaslamp.

BTW, what would something like this cost in SF: http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-120049503-700_Front_St_2302_San_Diego_CA_92101?%5B/quote%5D

And after paying for the condo, you get to pay over $1,400/month in HOA fees!!! 🙁

[spdrun]

@AN — East Village = no decent public transport, and it feels like most of SD with exception of maybe PB is deadsky after 9 pm. SF is more of a late-night town, though nothing compared to Manhattan or Brooklyn. SF also seems to have a lot of damn smart people, better (the best?) tech scene, more cultural events, and location on the edge of an urban zone if you head north.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]East Village = no decent public transport, and it feels like most of SD with exception of maybe PB is deadsky after 9 pm. SF is more of a late-night town, though nothing compared to Manhattan or Brooklyn.[/quote]
uh, what are you talking about: http://goo.gl/maps/DESbi. See the thing in the middle of the map? It looks like it says Metro Transit center. What does being a late-night town anything to do with anything? If I want a late night town, I wouldn’t go 1/2 way to SF. I’d go all the way to Manhattan.

What would something like this cost in SF: http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-120043430-700_W_E_St_4001_San_Diego_CA_92101? 40th floor with that kind of view?

[spdrun]

SF has other reasons for being desirable other than later nights. Tech scene, proximity to nature, less harsh climate than NYC.

Yea, it’s a middle ground between NY and SD, but it’s not a horrible compromise.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]SF also seems to have a lot of damn smart people, better (the best?) tech scene, more cultural events, and location on the edge of an urban zone if you head north.[/quote]Cultural events? Again, if I want cultural event, I would go to the capital (The big apple). You mean a lot of damn rich tech guys/gals? With regards to tech scene, it depends. For the most part, I agree. However, if you’re talking about Bio-tech, SD is still way ahead.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]SF has other reasons for being desirable other than later nights. Tech scene, proximity to nature, less harsh climate than NYC.

Yea, it’s a middle ground between NY and SD, but it’s not a horrible compromise.[/quote]
If you have the money, why compromise? SD weather > SF. NY cultural scene > SF.

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