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September 1, 2008 at 12:48 PM #264914September 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM #264624
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantzippy: Thanks for the recommends; I will pick them up.
As to Catholicism, have you read West’s “Theology of the Body Explained” or Kreeft’s “Catholic Christianity”? Both are excellent, and West’s book did an excellent job of reconciling the changes under Pope John Paul II with Vat2 and pre-Vat2 theology.
Keep your eyes peeled, this place is crawling with evangelicals!
Went onto Amazon and got them both. Interesting backgrounds on both authors, especially Crean’s being a Dominican. I was taught predominantly by Jesuits (I had both Jesuits and Franciscans in high school), but I like the Dominicans and Benedictines when it comes to theology and philosophy. Not as simplistic as the Franciscans and nowhere near as draconian as the Jesuits.
September 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM #264833Participantzippy: Thanks for the recommends; I will pick them up.
As to Catholicism, have you read West’s “Theology of the Body Explained” or Kreeft’s “Catholic Christianity”? Both are excellent, and West’s book did an excellent job of reconciling the changes under Pope John Paul II with Vat2 and pre-Vat2 theology.
Keep your eyes peeled, this place is crawling with evangelicals!
Went onto Amazon and got them both. Interesting backgrounds on both authors, especially Crean’s being a Dominican. I was taught predominantly by Jesuits (I had both Jesuits and Franciscans in high school), but I like the Dominicans and Benedictines when it comes to theology and philosophy. Not as simplistic as the Franciscans and nowhere near as draconian as the Jesuits.
September 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM #264836Participantzippy: Thanks for the recommends; I will pick them up.
As to Catholicism, have you read West’s “Theology of the Body Explained” or Kreeft’s “Catholic Christianity”? Both are excellent, and West’s book did an excellent job of reconciling the changes under Pope John Paul II with Vat2 and pre-Vat2 theology.
Keep your eyes peeled, this place is crawling with evangelicals!
Went onto Amazon and got them both. Interesting backgrounds on both authors, especially Crean’s being a Dominican. I was taught predominantly by Jesuits (I had both Jesuits and Franciscans in high school), but I like the Dominicans and Benedictines when it comes to theology and philosophy. Not as simplistic as the Franciscans and nowhere near as draconian as the Jesuits.
September 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM #264892Participantzippy: Thanks for the recommends; I will pick them up.
As to Catholicism, have you read West’s “Theology of the Body Explained” or Kreeft’s “Catholic Christianity”? Both are excellent, and West’s book did an excellent job of reconciling the changes under Pope John Paul II with Vat2 and pre-Vat2 theology.
Keep your eyes peeled, this place is crawling with evangelicals!
Went onto Amazon and got them both. Interesting backgrounds on both authors, especially Crean’s being a Dominican. I was taught predominantly by Jesuits (I had both Jesuits and Franciscans in high school), but I like the Dominicans and Benedictines when it comes to theology and philosophy. Not as simplistic as the Franciscans and nowhere near as draconian as the Jesuits.
September 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM #264929Participantzippy: Thanks for the recommends; I will pick them up.
As to Catholicism, have you read West’s “Theology of the Body Explained” or Kreeft’s “Catholic Christianity”? Both are excellent, and West’s book did an excellent job of reconciling the changes under Pope John Paul II with Vat2 and pre-Vat2 theology.
Keep your eyes peeled, this place is crawling with evangelicals!
Went onto Amazon and got them both. Interesting backgrounds on both authors, especially Crean’s being a Dominican. I was taught predominantly by Jesuits (I had both Jesuits and Franciscans in high school), but I like the Dominicans and Benedictines when it comes to theology and philosophy. Not as simplistic as the Franciscans and nowhere near as draconian as the Jesuits.
September 1, 2008 at 4:04 PM #264673zippythepinhead
ParticipantAllan,
Theo of the Body is one of my next projects. I do have Kreeft’s book but his other work, Handbook of Christian apologetics lists 20 arguments of the existence of God; the first 5 are Aquinas’s but no. 6 is most interesting:
1. whatever begins to exist has a cause for its coming in to being.
2. the universal began to exist
3. Therefore, the universe has a cause for its coming in to beingMost people accept the first premise. Number two has found support from natural science (Big Bang, which has first formulated by a Belgian priest)but which also has philosophical arguments in its favor:
Can an infinite task ever be completed? If, in order to reach a certain end, infinitely many steps had to precede it, could the end ever be reached? No, even in an infinite time. If we had to count to infinity before turning on our computer we would never touch the “On” button.If the universe is infinitely old, then an infinite number of days would have elapsed before say, today. But that’s impossible. So either the present day has not been reached or the process of reaching it was not infinite.Other favorite reads include “50 questions on the natural law” by Charles Rice and “Catholocism and Fundamentalism” by Keating (highly recommended)
September 1, 2008 at 4:04 PM #264883ParticipantAllan,
Theo of the Body is one of my next projects. I do have Kreeft’s book but his other work, Handbook of Christian apologetics lists 20 arguments of the existence of God; the first 5 are Aquinas’s but no. 6 is most interesting:
1. whatever begins to exist has a cause for its coming in to being.
2. the universal began to exist
3. Therefore, the universe has a cause for its coming in to beingMost people accept the first premise. Number two has found support from natural science (Big Bang, which has first formulated by a Belgian priest)but which also has philosophical arguments in its favor:
Can an infinite task ever be completed? If, in order to reach a certain end, infinitely many steps had to precede it, could the end ever be reached? No, even in an infinite time. If we had to count to infinity before turning on our computer we would never touch the “On” button.If the universe is infinitely old, then an infinite number of days would have elapsed before say, today. But that’s impossible. So either the present day has not been reached or the process of reaching it was not infinite.Other favorite reads include “50 questions on the natural law” by Charles Rice and “Catholocism and Fundamentalism” by Keating (highly recommended)
September 1, 2008 at 4:04 PM #264887ParticipantAllan,
Theo of the Body is one of my next projects. I do have Kreeft’s book but his other work, Handbook of Christian apologetics lists 20 arguments of the existence of God; the first 5 are Aquinas’s but no. 6 is most interesting:
1. whatever begins to exist has a cause for its coming in to being.
2. the universal began to exist
3. Therefore, the universe has a cause for its coming in to beingMost people accept the first premise. Number two has found support from natural science (Big Bang, which has first formulated by a Belgian priest)but which also has philosophical arguments in its favor:
Can an infinite task ever be completed? If, in order to reach a certain end, infinitely many steps had to precede it, could the end ever be reached? No, even in an infinite time. If we had to count to infinity before turning on our computer we would never touch the “On” button.If the universe is infinitely old, then an infinite number of days would have elapsed before say, today. But that’s impossible. So either the present day has not been reached or the process of reaching it was not infinite.Other favorite reads include “50 questions on the natural law” by Charles Rice and “Catholocism and Fundamentalism” by Keating (highly recommended)
September 1, 2008 at 4:04 PM #264942ParticipantAllan,
Theo of the Body is one of my next projects. I do have Kreeft’s book but his other work, Handbook of Christian apologetics lists 20 arguments of the existence of God; the first 5 are Aquinas’s but no. 6 is most interesting:
1. whatever begins to exist has a cause for its coming in to being.
2. the universal began to exist
3. Therefore, the universe has a cause for its coming in to beingMost people accept the first premise. Number two has found support from natural science (Big Bang, which has first formulated by a Belgian priest)but which also has philosophical arguments in its favor:
Can an infinite task ever be completed? If, in order to reach a certain end, infinitely many steps had to precede it, could the end ever be reached? No, even in an infinite time. If we had to count to infinity before turning on our computer we would never touch the “On” button.If the universe is infinitely old, then an infinite number of days would have elapsed before say, today. But that’s impossible. So either the present day has not been reached or the process of reaching it was not infinite.Other favorite reads include “50 questions on the natural law” by Charles Rice and “Catholocism and Fundamentalism” by Keating (highly recommended)
September 1, 2008 at 4:04 PM #264978ParticipantAllan,
Theo of the Body is one of my next projects. I do have Kreeft’s book but his other work, Handbook of Christian apologetics lists 20 arguments of the existence of God; the first 5 are Aquinas’s but no. 6 is most interesting:
1. whatever begins to exist has a cause for its coming in to being.
2. the universal began to exist
3. Therefore, the universe has a cause for its coming in to beingMost people accept the first premise. Number two has found support from natural science (Big Bang, which has first formulated by a Belgian priest)but which also has philosophical arguments in its favor:
Can an infinite task ever be completed? If, in order to reach a certain end, infinitely many steps had to precede it, could the end ever be reached? No, even in an infinite time. If we had to count to infinity before turning on our computer we would never touch the “On” button.If the universe is infinitely old, then an infinite number of days would have elapsed before say, today. But that’s impossible. So either the present day has not been reached or the process of reaching it was not infinite.Other favorite reads include “50 questions on the natural law” by Charles Rice and “Catholocism and Fundamentalism” by Keating (highly recommended)
September 1, 2008 at 4:19 PM #264678Participantzippy: Okay, so back to Amazon, huh? I ordered the other two books today, and will check out Keating and Rice as well.
You’ll notice a distinctly evangelical flavor to some of the religious postings here and I have avoided responding with anything too “Catholic”.
I have been pondering a response to larrylujack’s postings that would reference Aquinas and the “Summa Theologica”, but most of the liberal/secular types here (like larry) hear “God” or “spiritual” and it creates a knee-jerk reaction that immediately closes down the dialogue. That insipid nonsense about seeing the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich was enough for me. “None are so blind as those who will not see”.
There is a very rich history in Catholicism regarding regarding scientific inquiry (both good and bad), as well as ontological and telelogical arguments involving Faith and Reason, but you have to be careful bringing that into play. Speaking ontologically, apparently Spirituality = Idiocy.
September 1, 2008 at 4:19 PM #264888Participantzippy: Okay, so back to Amazon, huh? I ordered the other two books today, and will check out Keating and Rice as well.
You’ll notice a distinctly evangelical flavor to some of the religious postings here and I have avoided responding with anything too “Catholic”.
I have been pondering a response to larrylujack’s postings that would reference Aquinas and the “Summa Theologica”, but most of the liberal/secular types here (like larry) hear “God” or “spiritual” and it creates a knee-jerk reaction that immediately closes down the dialogue. That insipid nonsense about seeing the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich was enough for me. “None are so blind as those who will not see”.
There is a very rich history in Catholicism regarding regarding scientific inquiry (both good and bad), as well as ontological and telelogical arguments involving Faith and Reason, but you have to be careful bringing that into play. Speaking ontologically, apparently Spirituality = Idiocy.
September 1, 2008 at 4:19 PM #264891Participantzippy: Okay, so back to Amazon, huh? I ordered the other two books today, and will check out Keating and Rice as well.
You’ll notice a distinctly evangelical flavor to some of the religious postings here and I have avoided responding with anything too “Catholic”.
I have been pondering a response to larrylujack’s postings that would reference Aquinas and the “Summa Theologica”, but most of the liberal/secular types here (like larry) hear “God” or “spiritual” and it creates a knee-jerk reaction that immediately closes down the dialogue. That insipid nonsense about seeing the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich was enough for me. “None are so blind as those who will not see”.
There is a very rich history in Catholicism regarding regarding scientific inquiry (both good and bad), as well as ontological and telelogical arguments involving Faith and Reason, but you have to be careful bringing that into play. Speaking ontologically, apparently Spirituality = Idiocy.
September 1, 2008 at 4:19 PM #264947Participantzippy: Okay, so back to Amazon, huh? I ordered the other two books today, and will check out Keating and Rice as well.
You’ll notice a distinctly evangelical flavor to some of the religious postings here and I have avoided responding with anything too “Catholic”.
I have been pondering a response to larrylujack’s postings that would reference Aquinas and the “Summa Theologica”, but most of the liberal/secular types here (like larry) hear “God” or “spiritual” and it creates a knee-jerk reaction that immediately closes down the dialogue. That insipid nonsense about seeing the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich was enough for me. “None are so blind as those who will not see”.
There is a very rich history in Catholicism regarding regarding scientific inquiry (both good and bad), as well as ontological and telelogical arguments involving Faith and Reason, but you have to be careful bringing that into play. Speaking ontologically, apparently Spirituality = Idiocy.
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