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January 6, 2011 at 7:33 AM #649415January 6, 2011 at 7:55 AM #648307
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Participant[quote=sdrealtor]In many countries seeing a doctor is something most people simply have no access to.[/quote]
Are you speaking of Third World countries? I know people in Italy who have no problem w/access to a doctor.
January 6, 2011 at 7:55 AM #648378Participant[quote=sdrealtor]In many countries seeing a doctor is something most people simply have no access to.[/quote]
Are you speaking of Third World countries? I know people in Italy who have no problem w/access to a doctor.
January 6, 2011 at 7:55 AM #648964Participant[quote=sdrealtor]In many countries seeing a doctor is something most people simply have no access to.[/quote]
Are you speaking of Third World countries? I know people in Italy who have no problem w/access to a doctor.
January 6, 2011 at 7:55 AM #649101Participant[quote=sdrealtor]In many countries seeing a doctor is something most people simply have no access to.[/quote]
Are you speaking of Third World countries? I know people in Italy who have no problem w/access to a doctor.
January 6, 2011 at 7:55 AM #649425Participant[quote=sdrealtor]In many countries seeing a doctor is something most people simply have no access to.[/quote]
Are you speaking of Third World countries? I know people in Italy who have no problem w/access to a doctor.
January 6, 2011 at 8:18 AM #648317sdrealtor
ParticipantMostly 3rd world but I am sure it is the same for many people in Italy also. Our system is far from perfect. We focus on the acute care incidents rather than a more holistic long term approach. Slowly we are getting better in that regard but having worked in the health care delivery system at the highest levels for about a decade I know how slow moving a ship it is. With that said we still have the best in the world….no question about that.
January 6, 2011 at 8:18 AM #648388ParticipantMostly 3rd world but I am sure it is the same for many people in Italy also. Our system is far from perfect. We focus on the acute care incidents rather than a more holistic long term approach. Slowly we are getting better in that regard but having worked in the health care delivery system at the highest levels for about a decade I know how slow moving a ship it is. With that said we still have the best in the world….no question about that.
January 6, 2011 at 8:18 AM #648974ParticipantMostly 3rd world but I am sure it is the same for many people in Italy also. Our system is far from perfect. We focus on the acute care incidents rather than a more holistic long term approach. Slowly we are getting better in that regard but having worked in the health care delivery system at the highest levels for about a decade I know how slow moving a ship it is. With that said we still have the best in the world….no question about that.
January 6, 2011 at 8:18 AM #649111ParticipantMostly 3rd world but I am sure it is the same for many people in Italy also. Our system is far from perfect. We focus on the acute care incidents rather than a more holistic long term approach. Slowly we are getting better in that regard but having worked in the health care delivery system at the highest levels for about a decade I know how slow moving a ship it is. With that said we still have the best in the world….no question about that.
January 6, 2011 at 8:18 AM #649435ParticipantMostly 3rd world but I am sure it is the same for many people in Italy also. Our system is far from perfect. We focus on the acute care incidents rather than a more holistic long term approach. Slowly we are getting better in that regard but having worked in the health care delivery system at the highest levels for about a decade I know how slow moving a ship it is. With that said we still have the best in the world….no question about that.
January 6, 2011 at 9:09 AM #648342all
ParticipantWhat about countries not as poor as Indonesia?
Personal anecdote – my dad lives in a developing European county. Not Indonesia, but not Germany either. He had a couple of stents inserted in a non-emergency procedure. He went from his personal physician to cardiologist to surgery in less than four weeks. The total cost was close to $5K. He had to cover 10% of the total cost ($500) since he’s under 65 and it was not an emergency.
Had he needed an emergency brain surgery he would have died, but as an average person with a fairly common need he received treatment that is at least comparable to what’s offered in the US at fraction of the cost.
On the other hand, I had to wait more than four weeks to be seen by a sports medicine specialist about a lingering injury. It took him less than 5 minutes to interpret an x-ray, tell me an equivalent of ‘it is what it is, suck it up, come back in two months if it still hurts’. My out of pocket was $80 on top of my $500/month insurance.
January 6, 2011 at 9:09 AM #648413ParticipantWhat about countries not as poor as Indonesia?
Personal anecdote – my dad lives in a developing European county. Not Indonesia, but not Germany either. He had a couple of stents inserted in a non-emergency procedure. He went from his personal physician to cardiologist to surgery in less than four weeks. The total cost was close to $5K. He had to cover 10% of the total cost ($500) since he’s under 65 and it was not an emergency.
Had he needed an emergency brain surgery he would have died, but as an average person with a fairly common need he received treatment that is at least comparable to what’s offered in the US at fraction of the cost.
On the other hand, I had to wait more than four weeks to be seen by a sports medicine specialist about a lingering injury. It took him less than 5 minutes to interpret an x-ray, tell me an equivalent of ‘it is what it is, suck it up, come back in two months if it still hurts’. My out of pocket was $80 on top of my $500/month insurance.
January 6, 2011 at 9:09 AM #648999ParticipantWhat about countries not as poor as Indonesia?
Personal anecdote – my dad lives in a developing European county. Not Indonesia, but not Germany either. He had a couple of stents inserted in a non-emergency procedure. He went from his personal physician to cardiologist to surgery in less than four weeks. The total cost was close to $5K. He had to cover 10% of the total cost ($500) since he’s under 65 and it was not an emergency.
Had he needed an emergency brain surgery he would have died, but as an average person with a fairly common need he received treatment that is at least comparable to what’s offered in the US at fraction of the cost.
On the other hand, I had to wait more than four weeks to be seen by a sports medicine specialist about a lingering injury. It took him less than 5 minutes to interpret an x-ray, tell me an equivalent of ‘it is what it is, suck it up, come back in two months if it still hurts’. My out of pocket was $80 on top of my $500/month insurance.
January 6, 2011 at 9:09 AM #649136ParticipantWhat about countries not as poor as Indonesia?
Personal anecdote – my dad lives in a developing European county. Not Indonesia, but not Germany either. He had a couple of stents inserted in a non-emergency procedure. He went from his personal physician to cardiologist to surgery in less than four weeks. The total cost was close to $5K. He had to cover 10% of the total cost ($500) since he’s under 65 and it was not an emergency.
Had he needed an emergency brain surgery he would have died, but as an average person with a fairly common need he received treatment that is at least comparable to what’s offered in the US at fraction of the cost.
On the other hand, I had to wait more than four weeks to be seen by a sports medicine specialist about a lingering injury. It took him less than 5 minutes to interpret an x-ray, tell me an equivalent of ‘it is what it is, suck it up, come back in two months if it still hurts’. My out of pocket was $80 on top of my $500/month insurance.
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