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May 23, 2015 at 8:11 AM #786594May 23, 2015 at 8:26 AM #786596
meadandale
ParticipantBased on what I’ve read and after discussing this issue with a solar project manager, net metering is going to run out by the end of this year which means that the window to get a project complete before it does is quickly closing. Most contractors have a 2-3 month delay if you were to sign the contract today. The project has to be ONLINE by the deadline in order to qualify.
May 26, 2015 at 3:34 PM #786662LAAFTERHOURS
Participant[quote=meadandale]Based on what I’ve read and after discussing this issue with a solar project manager, net metering is going to run out by the end of this year which means that the window to get a project complete before it does is quickly closing. Most contractors have a 2-3 month delay if you were to sign the contract today. The project has to be ONLINE by the deadline in order to qualify.[/quote]
Currently its projecting to runout by end of q1 in 2016. http://www.solarpaneltalk.com/showthread.php?18214-SDG-amp-E-NEM-Cap/page4&highlight=metering
May 26, 2015 at 3:35 PM #786663ParticipantSorry double post.
June 6, 2015 at 11:00 PM #787060ocrenter
ParticipantJust got through my first summer month under the SDGE TOU tariff structure along with solar production. ($.48/kWh peak, $.22/kWh off peak, $.17/kWh super off peak)
Total use of 1010 kWh.
Total production of 780 kWh.
530 kWh of the use coming from super off peak (300 kWh for 1300 miles on the EV, essentially fuel cost of $4 for 100 miles if not offset by peak hour production)..
Following TOU adjustments, at end of month: $60 creditSolar with TOU plus EV is just absolutely amazing.
June 7, 2015 at 9:02 PM #787070svelteParticipant[quote=ocrenter]Just got through my first summer month under the SDGE TOU tariff structure along with solar production. ($.48/kWh peak, $.22/kWh off peak, $.17/kWh super off peak)
Total use of 1010 kWh.
Total production of 780 kWh.
530 kWh of the use coming from super off peak (300 kWh for 1300 miles on the EV, essentially fuel cost of $4 for 100 miles if not offset by peak hour production)..
Following TOU adjustments, at end of month: $60 creditSolar with TOU plus EV is just absolutely amazing.[/quote]
There are some things in this post I’m not quite grasping.
How did you use 220 kwh more than you produced yet end up with a $60 credit?
Thanks
June 7, 2015 at 9:31 PM #787072moneymaker
Participant[quote=moneymaker]6.2KW system in May 2014
$25K with $6.2K of that for labor
$7600 federal tax credit,already used it all
generates on average $300/mo. in electricity if in tier 3 or 4
payback is like 9-10 years
expect yearly bill to be roughly what used to be 1 month[/quote]Ok got the yearly bill last month and it was very low-$33 for a full year of electricity.
June 7, 2015 at 11:38 PM #787077Participant[quote=svelte][quote=ocrenter]Just got through my first summer month under the SDGE TOU tariff structure along with solar production. ($.48/kWh peak, $.22/kWh off peak, $.17/kWh super off peak)
Total use of 1010 kWh.
Total production of 780 kWh.
530 kWh of the use coming from super off peak (300 kWh for 1300 miles on the EV, essentially fuel cost of $4 for 100 miles if not offset by peak hour production)..
Following TOU adjustments, at end of month: $60 creditSolar with TOU plus EV is just absolutely amazing.[/quote]
There are some things in this post I’m not quite grasping.
How did you use 220 kwh more than you produced yet end up with a $60 credit?
Thanks[/quote]
Because of the TOU (time of use) price structure, the peak solar production time also happen to be the time of highest credit generation at $.48/kWh. Meanwhile, we were able to move half of our usage to the super off peak hours at $.17/kWh. Essentially 1 kWh generated in the afternoon can be traded for 3 kWh of use after midnight.
For example, on May 21 I had a horrible day of solar production. After subtracting daytime usage, I had a net peak hour generation of 8 kWh. At $.48 per kWh, that was $3.84 of credit. Meanwhile, the day before I drove almost 80 miles so my total off peak usage that day was 24 kWh. At $.17/kWh, my cost was $4.08. So on this day of poor production and excess driving, I was only on the hook for $.24 for the day.
June 7, 2015 at 11:42 PM #787078Participant[quote=moneymaker][quote=moneymaker]6.2KW system in May 2014
$25K with $6.2K of that for labor
$7600 federal tax credit,already used it all
generates on average $300/mo. in electricity if in tier 3 or 4
payback is like 9-10 years
expect yearly bill to be roughly what used to be 1 month[/quote]Ok got the yearly bill last month and it was very low-$33 for a full year of electricity.[/quote]
That’s great! looks like the ROI should be improving as well.
June 8, 2015 at 1:23 AM #787079svelteParticipant[quote=ocrenter]
Because of the TOU (time of use) price structure, the peak solar production time also happen to be the time of highest credit generation at $.48/kWh. Meanwhile, we were able to move half of our usage to the super off peak hours at $.17/kWh. Essentially 1 kWh generated in the afternoon can be traded for 3 kWh of use after midnight.
[/quote]Wow I had no idea they had a program that gave anywhere near that much $$ for electricity you produce.
For anyone else who may have been in the dark like me, here is what SDGE will pay in a program available to EV owners:
[img_assist|nid=20926|title=TOU for EV Owners|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=639|height=640]
June 8, 2015 at 6:46 AM #787080Participant[quote=svelte][quote=ocrenter]
Because of the TOU (time of use) price structure, the peak solar production time also happen to be the time of highest credit generation at $.48/kWh. Meanwhile, we were able to move half of our usage to the super off peak hours at $.17/kWh. Essentially 1 kWh generated in the afternoon can be traded for 3 kWh of use after midnight.
[/quote]Wow I had no idea they had a program that gave anywhere near that much $$ for electricity you produce.
For anyone else who may have been in the dark like me, here is what SDGE will pay in a program available to EV owners:
[img_assist|nid=20926|title=TOU for EV Owners|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=639|height=640][/quote]
Yeah, no kidding. I was looking at about $500 per year on fuel cost with the EV. The TOU structure essentially makes that free. I guess the payback is so high thanks to people like my neighbor who likes to keep indoor temp at 65 at all time.
June 8, 2015 at 9:50 AM #787084CA renter
ParticipantCongratulations, OCR and moneymaker! Nice ROI.
June 8, 2015 at 10:05 AM #787086an
Participantthanks ocr. I didn’t know they pay you retail prices for the production. I’m going to look at my usage now to see if it’s worth it to switch over to TOU from my regular Tiered net metering. Right now, I’m only banking kWh produced, not $.
June 8, 2015 at 11:27 AM #787093Participant[quote=AN]thanks ocr. I didn’t know they pay you retail prices for the production. I’m going to look at my usage now to see if it’s worth it to switch over to TOU from my regular Tiered net metering. Right now, I’m only banking kWh produced, not $.[/quote]
Well, this is all just credit right now. I’m banking the excess production in the summer with the idea that during wintertime I’ll probably use up the credits.
Maybe moneymaker can clarify, did SDGE actually cut you a check for the -$33?
June 8, 2015 at 12:18 PM #787102ParticipantUnfortunately, my system is not big enough to bank most of the time.
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