Health Care tax hikes

[SK in CV]

[quote=CONCHO]Thanks for the explanation SK. So this means that if you’re currently paying $11200/year you will pay $11867/year under this new system? Many people with any sort of serious pre-existing condition will get hit by this, $1000/mo premiums are not uncommon at all.

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I suspect the number of people hit by the excise tax will be quite small. I don’t know very much about insurance premiums in other states, but in California, a $1,000 a month policy for a single person is pretty damn expensive. I have a bill here in front of me for a 64 year old man (he turns 65 next month), and the premium, including his 21 year old son is $942 a month. It’s an individual policy, with the largest preferred provider network in the state, a $500 annual deductible and $10 copays for dr. visits. It’s damn good coverage, close to the most expensive that Anthem Blue Cross offers for a PPO.

Aetna’s most expensive small group HMO (with a $10 copay) for 60-64 year olds has annual premiums of $10,872. The $15 copay (which I pay for my staff) is $10,212 for that same age group. The annual premiums would go up by about $8 a year. Only for the oldest age bracket.

[SK in CV]

[quote=captcha]Are the limits auto-adjusted for inflation every year?[/quote]

Yes, they are. And if the CBO’s inflation estimate is below actual, the initial rates will also be adjusted. The excise tax doesn’t kick in until 2018.

[SK in CV]

[quote=captcha]Are the limits auto-adjusted for inflation every year?[/quote]

Yes, they are. And if the CBO’s inflation estimate is below actual, the initial rates will also be adjusted. The excise tax doesn’t kick in until 2018.

[SK in CV]

[quote=captcha]Are the limits auto-adjusted for inflation every year?[/quote]

Yes, they are. And if the CBO’s inflation estimate is below actual, the initial rates will also be adjusted. The excise tax doesn’t kick in until 2018.

[SK in CV]

[quote=captcha]Are the limits auto-adjusted for inflation every year?[/quote]

Yes, they are. And if the CBO’s inflation estimate is below actual, the initial rates will also be adjusted. The excise tax doesn’t kick in until 2018.

[SK in CV]

[quote=captcha]Are the limits auto-adjusted for inflation every year?[/quote]

Yes, they are. And if the CBO’s inflation estimate is below actual, the initial rates will also be adjusted. The excise tax doesn’t kick in until 2018.

[ucodegen]

Exactly. It closes a loophole. It’s not a new tax.

Really? Can you name an over-the-counter equivalent to a prescribed drug used to prevent blood clots. The over-the-counter drug is both safer and keeps the clotting factor of the blood more stable.

The prescribed drug is Coumadin or Warfarin… what is the OTC equiv? NOTE: Nursing homes prefer to use the OTC drug because it is more stable and has fewer side effects. Coumadin/Warfarin has an efficacy of about 3 days, the OTC drug has an efficacy of 11 days.

Here is info on Coumadin/Warfarin.. take a look at all the warnings/side effects. The OTC drug has far fewer side effects/warnings.
http://www.drugs.com/coumadin.html

[ucodegen]

Exactly. It closes a loophole. It’s not a new tax.

Really? Can you name an over-the-counter equivalent to a prescribed drug used to prevent blood clots. The over-the-counter drug is both safer and keeps the clotting factor of the blood more stable.

The prescribed drug is Coumadin or Warfarin… what is the OTC equiv? NOTE: Nursing homes prefer to use the OTC drug because it is more stable and has fewer side effects. Coumadin/Warfarin has an efficacy of about 3 days, the OTC drug has an efficacy of 11 days.

Here is info on Coumadin/Warfarin.. take a look at all the warnings/side effects. The OTC drug has far fewer side effects/warnings.
http://www.drugs.com/coumadin.html

[ucodegen]

Exactly. It closes a loophole. It’s not a new tax.

Really? Can you name an over-the-counter equivalent to a prescribed drug used to prevent blood clots. The over-the-counter drug is both safer and keeps the clotting factor of the blood more stable.

The prescribed drug is Coumadin or Warfarin… what is the OTC equiv? NOTE: Nursing homes prefer to use the OTC drug because it is more stable and has fewer side effects. Coumadin/Warfarin has an efficacy of about 3 days, the OTC drug has an efficacy of 11 days.

Here is info on Coumadin/Warfarin.. take a look at all the warnings/side effects. The OTC drug has far fewer side effects/warnings.
http://www.drugs.com/coumadin.html

[ucodegen]

Exactly. It closes a loophole. It’s not a new tax.

Really? Can you name an over-the-counter equivalent to a prescribed drug used to prevent blood clots. The over-the-counter drug is both safer and keeps the clotting factor of the blood more stable.

The prescribed drug is Coumadin or Warfarin… what is the OTC equiv? NOTE: Nursing homes prefer to use the OTC drug because it is more stable and has fewer side effects. Coumadin/Warfarin has an efficacy of about 3 days, the OTC drug has an efficacy of 11 days.

Here is info on Coumadin/Warfarin.. take a look at all the warnings/side effects. The OTC drug has far fewer side effects/warnings.
http://www.drugs.com/coumadin.html

[ucodegen]

Exactly. It closes a loophole. It’s not a new tax.

Really? Can you name an over-the-counter equivalent to a prescribed drug used to prevent blood clots. The over-the-counter drug is both safer and keeps the clotting factor of the blood more stable.

The prescribed drug is Coumadin or Warfarin… what is the OTC equiv? NOTE: Nursing homes prefer to use the OTC drug because it is more stable and has fewer side effects. Coumadin/Warfarin has an efficacy of about 3 days, the OTC drug has an efficacy of 11 days.

Here is info on Coumadin/Warfarin.. take a look at all the warnings/side effects. The OTC drug has far fewer side effects/warnings.
http://www.drugs.com/coumadin.html

[meadandale]

[quote=danielwis]I agree.

I think you should cancel your insurance. In fact I think you should ask your company to eliminate your job.[/quote]

I work for myself moron. But nice try.

And, frankly, considering how high the costs of some over the counter drugs I take are (prilosec and mucinex come to mind) I don’t think that it is at all unreasonable for me to be able to use money I’ve set aside specifically for health expenses to pay for them.

Aren’t all you lefties for preventative health care? I suppose it’s fine when I get to pay for YOUR preventative health care but not when I’m paying for it myself?

[meadandale]

[quote=danielwis]I agree.

I think you should cancel your insurance. In fact I think you should ask your company to eliminate your job.[/quote]

I work for myself moron. But nice try.

And, frankly, considering how high the costs of some over the counter drugs I take are (prilosec and mucinex come to mind) I don’t think that it is at all unreasonable for me to be able to use money I’ve set aside specifically for health expenses to pay for them.

Aren’t all you lefties for preventative health care? I suppose it’s fine when I get to pay for YOUR preventative health care but not when I’m paying for it myself?

[meadandale]

[quote=danielwis]I agree.

I think you should cancel your insurance. In fact I think you should ask your company to eliminate your job.[/quote]

I work for myself moron. But nice try.

And, frankly, considering how high the costs of some over the counter drugs I take are (prilosec and mucinex come to mind) I don’t think that it is at all unreasonable for me to be able to use money I’ve set aside specifically for health expenses to pay for them.

Aren’t all you lefties for preventative health care? I suppose it’s fine when I get to pay for YOUR preventative health care but not when I’m paying for it myself?

[meadandale]

[quote=danielwis]I agree.

I think you should cancel your insurance. In fact I think you should ask your company to eliminate your job.[/quote]

I work for myself moron. But nice try.

And, frankly, considering how high the costs of some over the counter drugs I take are (prilosec and mucinex come to mind) I don’t think that it is at all unreasonable for me to be able to use money I’ve set aside specifically for health expenses to pay for them.

Aren’t all you lefties for preventative health care? I suppose it’s fine when I get to pay for YOUR preventative health care but not when I’m paying for it myself?

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