Health Care tax hikes

[Coronita]

briansd,

You definitely sound like alex_angel…Anyway, mind if I ask how much you make? And part 2 of my question, I’d like you to disclose how much of that have you donated to folks in need?

Like someone else here said, it’s easy to think charitably when it’s not your money.

[briansd1]

Nothing to do with personal generosity.

A kind society takes care of all its citizens.

Newly developed countries such as Korea and Taiwan (that were third world countries just a generation ago) found a way to provide universal health care. It’s shameful that we in America can’t do the same.

[briansd1]

Nothing to do with personal generosity.

A kind society takes care of all its citizens.

Newly developed countries such as Korea and Taiwan (that were third world countries just a generation ago) found a way to provide universal health care. It’s shameful that we in America can’t do the same.

[briansd1]

Nothing to do with personal generosity.

A kind society takes care of all its citizens.

Newly developed countries such as Korea and Taiwan (that were third world countries just a generation ago) found a way to provide universal health care. It’s shameful that we in America can’t do the same.

[briansd1]

Nothing to do with personal generosity.

A kind society takes care of all its citizens.

Newly developed countries such as Korea and Taiwan (that were third world countries just a generation ago) found a way to provide universal health care. It’s shameful that we in America can’t do the same.

[briansd1]

Nothing to do with personal generosity.

A kind society takes care of all its citizens.

Newly developed countries such as Korea and Taiwan (that were third world countries just a generation ago) found a way to provide universal health care. It’s shameful that we in America can’t do the same.

[mercedes7]

[quote=briansd1]Nothing to do with personal generosity.

A kind society takes care of all its citizens.

Newly developed countries such as Korea and Taiwan (that were third world countries just a generation ago) found a way to provide universal health care. It’s shameful that we in America can’t do the same.[/quote]

Are you only referring to US citizens?

[mercedes7]

[quote=briansd1]Nothing to do with personal generosity.

A kind society takes care of all its citizens.

Newly developed countries such as Korea and Taiwan (that were third world countries just a generation ago) found a way to provide universal health care. It’s shameful that we in America can’t do the same.[/quote]

Are you only referring to US citizens?

[mercedes7]

[quote=briansd1]Nothing to do with personal generosity.

A kind society takes care of all its citizens.

Newly developed countries such as Korea and Taiwan (that were third world countries just a generation ago) found a way to provide universal health care. It’s shameful that we in America can’t do the same.[/quote]

Are you only referring to US citizens?

[mercedes7]

[quote=briansd1]Nothing to do with personal generosity.

A kind society takes care of all its citizens.

Newly developed countries such as Korea and Taiwan (that were third world countries just a generation ago) found a way to provide universal health care. It’s shameful that we in America can’t do the same.[/quote]

Are you only referring to US citizens?

[mercedes7]

[quote=briansd1]Nothing to do with personal generosity.

A kind society takes care of all its citizens.

Newly developed countries such as Korea and Taiwan (that were third world countries just a generation ago) found a way to provide universal health care. It’s shameful that we in America can’t do the same.[/quote]

Are you only referring to US citizens?

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]How about thinking of others for a minute? So it’ll cost of little bit more to buy OTC meds. Is that a big enough deal to deny millions of Americans health care coverage?[/quote]

No Brian. It is not about a little bit more for OTC meds. It is about $1T more, per decade, when we’re $12T in the hole. Someone (maybe you) called Medicare and Soc. Security “bedrock” programs. Oh yeah? Bedrock programs that have no recognition of demographics or reality. Neither one of those programs are on fiscally sound footing. I did read some of the raw CBO report, and first of all they have a big disclaimer about any predictions more than a decade out. My prediction is that this will be FAR more expensive than predicted. Murphy has a way of being right.

You said it’s “our” money Brian. Yeah? Are you part of the 5 percent that’s been enlisted to pay for this?

When you say “deny millions of americans healthcare”… shouldn’t the system be set up to reward hard work? Should a Jack-in-the-box fryer refiller with 2 weeks experience *REALLY* get the same healthcare as say someone who worked 30 years, proved themselves as a leader, and now has 1000 people reporting to them? Really? Is that really what you believe? Shouldn’t there be an incentive to get out of Jack-in-the-box before you start a family?

With this, we’re heading down the path of Greece, with hairdressers demanding retirement at age 50 (look it up). We are heading FAR FAR away from the concept of pioneer spirit and yankee ingenuity.

It’s more about: what am I “entitled” to have provided to me by the abstract “government”. Problem is, that abstract “government” is actually your neighbors or phony printed money. There was a time when a lot of folks would have sufficient pride to decline that kind of charity and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Partypup and Arraya don’t scare me, but I have to say *this* kind of mentality does scare me about our future.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]How about thinking of others for a minute? So it’ll cost of little bit more to buy OTC meds. Is that a big enough deal to deny millions of Americans health care coverage?[/quote]

No Brian. It is not about a little bit more for OTC meds. It is about $1T more, per decade, when we’re $12T in the hole. Someone (maybe you) called Medicare and Soc. Security “bedrock” programs. Oh yeah? Bedrock programs that have no recognition of demographics or reality. Neither one of those programs are on fiscally sound footing. I did read some of the raw CBO report, and first of all they have a big disclaimer about any predictions more than a decade out. My prediction is that this will be FAR more expensive than predicted. Murphy has a way of being right.

You said it’s “our” money Brian. Yeah? Are you part of the 5 percent that’s been enlisted to pay for this?

When you say “deny millions of americans healthcare”… shouldn’t the system be set up to reward hard work? Should a Jack-in-the-box fryer refiller with 2 weeks experience *REALLY* get the same healthcare as say someone who worked 30 years, proved themselves as a leader, and now has 1000 people reporting to them? Really? Is that really what you believe? Shouldn’t there be an incentive to get out of Jack-in-the-box before you start a family?

With this, we’re heading down the path of Greece, with hairdressers demanding retirement at age 50 (look it up). We are heading FAR FAR away from the concept of pioneer spirit and yankee ingenuity.

It’s more about: what am I “entitled” to have provided to me by the abstract “government”. Problem is, that abstract “government” is actually your neighbors or phony printed money. There was a time when a lot of folks would have sufficient pride to decline that kind of charity and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Partypup and Arraya don’t scare me, but I have to say *this* kind of mentality does scare me about our future.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]How about thinking of others for a minute? So it’ll cost of little bit more to buy OTC meds. Is that a big enough deal to deny millions of Americans health care coverage?[/quote]

No Brian. It is not about a little bit more for OTC meds. It is about $1T more, per decade, when we’re $12T in the hole. Someone (maybe you) called Medicare and Soc. Security “bedrock” programs. Oh yeah? Bedrock programs that have no recognition of demographics or reality. Neither one of those programs are on fiscally sound footing. I did read some of the raw CBO report, and first of all they have a big disclaimer about any predictions more than a decade out. My prediction is that this will be FAR more expensive than predicted. Murphy has a way of being right.

You said it’s “our” money Brian. Yeah? Are you part of the 5 percent that’s been enlisted to pay for this?

When you say “deny millions of americans healthcare”… shouldn’t the system be set up to reward hard work? Should a Jack-in-the-box fryer refiller with 2 weeks experience *REALLY* get the same healthcare as say someone who worked 30 years, proved themselves as a leader, and now has 1000 people reporting to them? Really? Is that really what you believe? Shouldn’t there be an incentive to get out of Jack-in-the-box before you start a family?

With this, we’re heading down the path of Greece, with hairdressers demanding retirement at age 50 (look it up). We are heading FAR FAR away from the concept of pioneer spirit and yankee ingenuity.

It’s more about: what am I “entitled” to have provided to me by the abstract “government”. Problem is, that abstract “government” is actually your neighbors or phony printed money. There was a time when a lot of folks would have sufficient pride to decline that kind of charity and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Partypup and Arraya don’t scare me, but I have to say *this* kind of mentality does scare me about our future.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]How about thinking of others for a minute? So it’ll cost of little bit more to buy OTC meds. Is that a big enough deal to deny millions of Americans health care coverage?[/quote]

No Brian. It is not about a little bit more for OTC meds. It is about $1T more, per decade, when we’re $12T in the hole. Someone (maybe you) called Medicare and Soc. Security “bedrock” programs. Oh yeah? Bedrock programs that have no recognition of demographics or reality. Neither one of those programs are on fiscally sound footing. I did read some of the raw CBO report, and first of all they have a big disclaimer about any predictions more than a decade out. My prediction is that this will be FAR more expensive than predicted. Murphy has a way of being right.

You said it’s “our” money Brian. Yeah? Are you part of the 5 percent that’s been enlisted to pay for this?

When you say “deny millions of americans healthcare”… shouldn’t the system be set up to reward hard work? Should a Jack-in-the-box fryer refiller with 2 weeks experience *REALLY* get the same healthcare as say someone who worked 30 years, proved themselves as a leader, and now has 1000 people reporting to them? Really? Is that really what you believe? Shouldn’t there be an incentive to get out of Jack-in-the-box before you start a family?

With this, we’re heading down the path of Greece, with hairdressers demanding retirement at age 50 (look it up). We are heading FAR FAR away from the concept of pioneer spirit and yankee ingenuity.

It’s more about: what am I “entitled” to have provided to me by the abstract “government”. Problem is, that abstract “government” is actually your neighbors or phony printed money. There was a time when a lot of folks would have sufficient pride to decline that kind of charity and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Partypup and Arraya don’t scare me, but I have to say *this* kind of mentality does scare me about our future.

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