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March 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM #364217March 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM #364048
macromaniac
ParticipantYeah, I agree a little “Death Therapy” here….ha ha. That movie is classic….
Just a basic question? How many people plan on living in their homes for 25 years? Can I see a show of hands anyone?
And then since the average person live in their home for 5 to 7 years, well, are they going to recoup the costs in the sale of the property? How does this calculate?
They should be subsidizing xanax for everyone right now and vasectomies…that would cut the federal deficit by billions….
March 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM #364336macromaniac
ParticipantYeah, I agree a little “Death Therapy” here….ha ha. That movie is classic….
Just a basic question? How many people plan on living in their homes for 25 years? Can I see a show of hands anyone?
And then since the average person live in their home for 5 to 7 years, well, are they going to recoup the costs in the sale of the property? How does this calculate?
They should be subsidizing xanax for everyone right now and vasectomies…that would cut the federal deficit by billions….
March 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM #364495macromaniac
ParticipantYeah, I agree a little “Death Therapy” here….ha ha. That movie is classic….
Just a basic question? How many people plan on living in their homes for 25 years? Can I see a show of hands anyone?
And then since the average person live in their home for 5 to 7 years, well, are they going to recoup the costs in the sale of the property? How does this calculate?
They should be subsidizing xanax for everyone right now and vasectomies…that would cut the federal deficit by billions….
March 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM #364528macromaniac
ParticipantYeah, I agree a little “Death Therapy” here….ha ha. That movie is classic….
Just a basic question? How many people plan on living in their homes for 25 years? Can I see a show of hands anyone?
And then since the average person live in their home for 5 to 7 years, well, are they going to recoup the costs in the sale of the property? How does this calculate?
They should be subsidizing xanax for everyone right now and vasectomies…that would cut the federal deficit by billions….
March 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM #364642macromaniac
ParticipantYeah, I agree a little “Death Therapy” here….ha ha. That movie is classic….
Just a basic question? How many people plan on living in their homes for 25 years? Can I see a show of hands anyone?
And then since the average person live in their home for 5 to 7 years, well, are they going to recoup the costs in the sale of the property? How does this calculate?
They should be subsidizing xanax for everyone right now and vasectomies…that would cut the federal deficit by billions….
March 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM #364052Butleroftwo
Participant[quote=air_ogi]I am not sure where you are getting your 138 years number.
In developed markets (for example Germany) home based solar costs are $5/W. (installed, without subsidies)
At those rates, in high insolation area like San Diego, over 25 years you get about 45kWh per W, or about 11c/kwh. And since this energy is local, it doesn’t require additional distribution costs.
Solar should be under $3.5/W by 2012 or 7.7c/kWh.
Or you can keep adding to $41B Black Lung Program program.[/quote]
I divided the $1,000,000 by a $600 a month utility bill to get 138 years. The point is it is pointless to spend that amount to be green.
Using a calculator on a local solar installer’s website the total cost to install a normal SFH system would be $38,000. If you pick $100 as your average electric use and divide the two you get 31 years to pay that back. Once again that is a bad economic choice.
I have a hunch that the costs are higher here in CA because it is subsidized. Why would you lower your prices to be competitive when everyone gets free money?
March 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM #364341Butleroftwo
Participant[quote=air_ogi]I am not sure where you are getting your 138 years number.
In developed markets (for example Germany) home based solar costs are $5/W. (installed, without subsidies)
At those rates, in high insolation area like San Diego, over 25 years you get about 45kWh per W, or about 11c/kwh. And since this energy is local, it doesn’t require additional distribution costs.
Solar should be under $3.5/W by 2012 or 7.7c/kWh.
Or you can keep adding to $41B Black Lung Program program.[/quote]
I divided the $1,000,000 by a $600 a month utility bill to get 138 years. The point is it is pointless to spend that amount to be green.
Using a calculator on a local solar installer’s website the total cost to install a normal SFH system would be $38,000. If you pick $100 as your average electric use and divide the two you get 31 years to pay that back. Once again that is a bad economic choice.
I have a hunch that the costs are higher here in CA because it is subsidized. Why would you lower your prices to be competitive when everyone gets free money?
March 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM #364500Butleroftwo
Participant[quote=air_ogi]I am not sure where you are getting your 138 years number.
In developed markets (for example Germany) home based solar costs are $5/W. (installed, without subsidies)
At those rates, in high insolation area like San Diego, over 25 years you get about 45kWh per W, or about 11c/kwh. And since this energy is local, it doesn’t require additional distribution costs.
Solar should be under $3.5/W by 2012 or 7.7c/kWh.
Or you can keep adding to $41B Black Lung Program program.[/quote]
I divided the $1,000,000 by a $600 a month utility bill to get 138 years. The point is it is pointless to spend that amount to be green.
Using a calculator on a local solar installer’s website the total cost to install a normal SFH system would be $38,000. If you pick $100 as your average electric use and divide the two you get 31 years to pay that back. Once again that is a bad economic choice.
I have a hunch that the costs are higher here in CA because it is subsidized. Why would you lower your prices to be competitive when everyone gets free money?
March 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM #364533Butleroftwo
Participant[quote=air_ogi]I am not sure where you are getting your 138 years number.
In developed markets (for example Germany) home based solar costs are $5/W. (installed, without subsidies)
At those rates, in high insolation area like San Diego, over 25 years you get about 45kWh per W, or about 11c/kwh. And since this energy is local, it doesn’t require additional distribution costs.
Solar should be under $3.5/W by 2012 or 7.7c/kWh.
Or you can keep adding to $41B Black Lung Program program.[/quote]
I divided the $1,000,000 by a $600 a month utility bill to get 138 years. The point is it is pointless to spend that amount to be green.
Using a calculator on a local solar installer’s website the total cost to install a normal SFH system would be $38,000. If you pick $100 as your average electric use and divide the two you get 31 years to pay that back. Once again that is a bad economic choice.
I have a hunch that the costs are higher here in CA because it is subsidized. Why would you lower your prices to be competitive when everyone gets free money?
March 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM #364647Butleroftwo
Participant[quote=air_ogi]I am not sure where you are getting your 138 years number.
In developed markets (for example Germany) home based solar costs are $5/W. (installed, without subsidies)
At those rates, in high insolation area like San Diego, over 25 years you get about 45kWh per W, or about 11c/kwh. And since this energy is local, it doesn’t require additional distribution costs.
Solar should be under $3.5/W by 2012 or 7.7c/kWh.
Or you can keep adding to $41B Black Lung Program program.[/quote]
I divided the $1,000,000 by a $600 a month utility bill to get 138 years. The point is it is pointless to spend that amount to be green.
Using a calculator on a local solar installer’s website the total cost to install a normal SFH system would be $38,000. If you pick $100 as your average electric use and divide the two you get 31 years to pay that back. Once again that is a bad economic choice.
I have a hunch that the costs are higher here in CA because it is subsidized. Why would you lower your prices to be competitive when everyone gets free money?
March 11, 2009 at 12:41 PM #364057svelte
Participant[quote=macromaniac]Just a basic question? How many people plan on living in their homes for 25 years? Can I see a show of hands anyone?
[/quote](svelte raises his hand)
We stayed in our last house 15 years, just as we had planned.
We plan on staying in our current house until they put tags on our toes.
If the neighborhood deteriorates a very large amount that could alter plans, but I’m not real worried about that happening. I’ll be deaf and blind by then.
March 11, 2009 at 12:41 PM #364346svelte
Participant[quote=macromaniac]Just a basic question? How many people plan on living in their homes for 25 years? Can I see a show of hands anyone?
[/quote](svelte raises his hand)
We stayed in our last house 15 years, just as we had planned.
We plan on staying in our current house until they put tags on our toes.
If the neighborhood deteriorates a very large amount that could alter plans, but I’m not real worried about that happening. I’ll be deaf and blind by then.
March 11, 2009 at 12:41 PM #364505svelte
Participant[quote=macromaniac]Just a basic question? How many people plan on living in their homes for 25 years? Can I see a show of hands anyone?
[/quote](svelte raises his hand)
We stayed in our last house 15 years, just as we had planned.
We plan on staying in our current house until they put tags on our toes.
If the neighborhood deteriorates a very large amount that could alter plans, but I’m not real worried about that happening. I’ll be deaf and blind by then.
March 11, 2009 at 12:41 PM #364538svelte
Participant[quote=macromaniac]Just a basic question? How many people plan on living in their homes for 25 years? Can I see a show of hands anyone?
[/quote](svelte raises his hand)
We stayed in our last house 15 years, just as we had planned.
We plan on staying in our current house until they put tags on our toes.
If the neighborhood deteriorates a very large amount that could alter plans, but I’m not real worried about that happening. I’ll be deaf and blind by then.
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