Elections Tuesday

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Sweet, my response to Allan was flagged as spam. This must be proof of a higher being!! I think I am converted! Rich is my new God. 🙂

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]How can evolution be spirituality? Evolution is a proven fact so it should be “religion”.

Do fervent Christians believe in evolution? If so, how do they reconcile that with creationism?

I think the French generally have the best outlook on Christianity. Christianity is just rich culture and tradition. It has nothing to do with science and evolution.[/quote]

Brian: And you wonder why I don’t bother to waste my time arguing with you? Your post above sums it up perfectly.

This is as witless as it comes. “It has nothing to do with science and evolution”. Wow.

For someone who consistently and persistently pushes his “intellectual” chops, you are frighteningly ignorant, bigoted and nearly impossibly ill-read. You excoriate “Kansans” without surcease and yet…

Proof yet again that there are none so blind as those who will NOT see.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]How can evolution be spirituality? Evolution is a proven fact so it should be “religion”.

Do fervent Christians believe in evolution? If so, how do they reconcile that with creationism?

I think the French generally have the best outlook on Christianity. Christianity is just rich culture and tradition. It has nothing to do with science and evolution.[/quote]

Brian: And you wonder why I don’t bother to waste my time arguing with you? Your post above sums it up perfectly.

This is as witless as it comes. “It has nothing to do with science and evolution”. Wow.

For someone who consistently and persistently pushes his “intellectual” chops, you are frighteningly ignorant, bigoted and nearly impossibly ill-read. You excoriate “Kansans” without surcease and yet…

Proof yet again that there are none so blind as those who will NOT see.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]How can evolution be spirituality? Evolution is a proven fact so it should be “religion”.

Do fervent Christians believe in evolution? If so, how do they reconcile that with creationism?

I think the French generally have the best outlook on Christianity. Christianity is just rich culture and tradition. It has nothing to do with science and evolution.[/quote]

Brian: And you wonder why I don’t bother to waste my time arguing with you? Your post above sums it up perfectly.

This is as witless as it comes. “It has nothing to do with science and evolution”. Wow.

For someone who consistently and persistently pushes his “intellectual” chops, you are frighteningly ignorant, bigoted and nearly impossibly ill-read. You excoriate “Kansans” without surcease and yet…

Proof yet again that there are none so blind as those who will NOT see.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]How can evolution be spirituality? Evolution is a proven fact so it should be “religion”.

Do fervent Christians believe in evolution? If so, how do they reconcile that with creationism?

I think the French generally have the best outlook on Christianity. Christianity is just rich culture and tradition. It has nothing to do with science and evolution.[/quote]

Brian: And you wonder why I don’t bother to waste my time arguing with you? Your post above sums it up perfectly.

This is as witless as it comes. “It has nothing to do with science and evolution”. Wow.

For someone who consistently and persistently pushes his “intellectual” chops, you are frighteningly ignorant, bigoted and nearly impossibly ill-read. You excoriate “Kansans” without surcease and yet…

Proof yet again that there are none so blind as those who will NOT see.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=briansd1]How can evolution be spirituality? Evolution is a proven fact so it should be “religion”.

Do fervent Christians believe in evolution? If so, how do they reconcile that with creationism?

I think the French generally have the best outlook on Christianity. Christianity is just rich culture and tradition. It has nothing to do with science and evolution.[/quote]

Brian: And you wonder why I don’t bother to waste my time arguing with you? Your post above sums it up perfectly.

This is as witless as it comes. “It has nothing to do with science and evolution”. Wow.

For someone who consistently and persistently pushes his “intellectual” chops, you are frighteningly ignorant, bigoted and nearly impossibly ill-read. You excoriate “Kansans” without surcease and yet…

Proof yet again that there are none so blind as those who will NOT see.

[MicroGravity]

Wow, I forgot how interesting the non-RE piggy posts can get. I know it’s a web forum, but the amount of vitriol and “facts” are a bit disturbing.

I am and work with hundreds of scientists and I can honestly tell you that there is very little correlation (can’t comment on causation!) between being a scientist and religious belief. The one thing I have noticed is that scientists, on average, have thought through their stance more than most. I don’t know if it’s because of the analytical mind or the fact that we study the workings of nature (or God’s plan–take your pick) everyday.
My advisor was a friend of Sagan, and also a devout Catholic. I can tell you that they disagreed completely when it came to religion, but they were still friends and both stood in awe of nature.
Which reminds me:I was privileged to hear a conversation between Sagan and the Vatican astronomer.
Sagan could not understand how one could look out at the universe and recognize that nature did not require a god. The Vatican astronomer said” How can one peer into the universe and not see God.”
I’d argue that they were both competent planetary scientists…

[MicroGravity]

Wow, I forgot how interesting the non-RE piggy posts can get. I know it’s a web forum, but the amount of vitriol and “facts” are a bit disturbing.

I am and work with hundreds of scientists and I can honestly tell you that there is very little correlation (can’t comment on causation!) between being a scientist and religious belief. The one thing I have noticed is that scientists, on average, have thought through their stance more than most. I don’t know if it’s because of the analytical mind or the fact that we study the workings of nature (or God’s plan–take your pick) everyday.
My advisor was a friend of Sagan, and also a devout Catholic. I can tell you that they disagreed completely when it came to religion, but they were still friends and both stood in awe of nature.
Which reminds me:I was privileged to hear a conversation between Sagan and the Vatican astronomer.
Sagan could not understand how one could look out at the universe and recognize that nature did not require a god. The Vatican astronomer said” How can one peer into the universe and not see God.”
I’d argue that they were both competent planetary scientists…

[MicroGravity]

Wow, I forgot how interesting the non-RE piggy posts can get. I know it’s a web forum, but the amount of vitriol and “facts” are a bit disturbing.

I am and work with hundreds of scientists and I can honestly tell you that there is very little correlation (can’t comment on causation!) between being a scientist and religious belief. The one thing I have noticed is that scientists, on average, have thought through their stance more than most. I don’t know if it’s because of the analytical mind or the fact that we study the workings of nature (or God’s plan–take your pick) everyday.
My advisor was a friend of Sagan, and also a devout Catholic. I can tell you that they disagreed completely when it came to religion, but they were still friends and both stood in awe of nature.
Which reminds me:I was privileged to hear a conversation between Sagan and the Vatican astronomer.
Sagan could not understand how one could look out at the universe and recognize that nature did not require a god. The Vatican astronomer said” How can one peer into the universe and not see God.”
I’d argue that they were both competent planetary scientists…

[MicroGravity]

Wow, I forgot how interesting the non-RE piggy posts can get. I know it’s a web forum, but the amount of vitriol and “facts” are a bit disturbing.

I am and work with hundreds of scientists and I can honestly tell you that there is very little correlation (can’t comment on causation!) between being a scientist and religious belief. The one thing I have noticed is that scientists, on average, have thought through their stance more than most. I don’t know if it’s because of the analytical mind or the fact that we study the workings of nature (or God’s plan–take your pick) everyday.
My advisor was a friend of Sagan, and also a devout Catholic. I can tell you that they disagreed completely when it came to religion, but they were still friends and both stood in awe of nature.
Which reminds me:I was privileged to hear a conversation between Sagan and the Vatican astronomer.
Sagan could not understand how one could look out at the universe and recognize that nature did not require a god. The Vatican astronomer said” How can one peer into the universe and not see God.”
I’d argue that they were both competent planetary scientists…

[MicroGravity]

Wow, I forgot how interesting the non-RE piggy posts can get. I know it’s a web forum, but the amount of vitriol and “facts” are a bit disturbing.

I am and work with hundreds of scientists and I can honestly tell you that there is very little correlation (can’t comment on causation!) between being a scientist and religious belief. The one thing I have noticed is that scientists, on average, have thought through their stance more than most. I don’t know if it’s because of the analytical mind or the fact that we study the workings of nature (or God’s plan–take your pick) everyday.
My advisor was a friend of Sagan, and also a devout Catholic. I can tell you that they disagreed completely when it came to religion, but they were still friends and both stood in awe of nature.
Which reminds me:I was privileged to hear a conversation between Sagan and the Vatican astronomer.
Sagan could not understand how one could look out at the universe and recognize that nature did not require a god. The Vatican astronomer said” How can one peer into the universe and not see God.”
I’d argue that they were both competent planetary scientists…

[briansd1]

[quote=MicroGravity]

I am and work with hundreds of scientists and I can honestly tell you that there is very little correlation (can’t comment on causation!) between being a scientist and religious belief. The one thing I have noticed is that scientists, on average, have thought through their stance more than most.[/quote]

I completely agree.

It’s undeniable that Christians have contributed greatly to science.

A Christian can be a superb scientist but science is not Christian simply because a Christian works on it.

[briansd1]

[quote=MicroGravity]

I am and work with hundreds of scientists and I can honestly tell you that there is very little correlation (can’t comment on causation!) between being a scientist and religious belief. The one thing I have noticed is that scientists, on average, have thought through their stance more than most.[/quote]

I completely agree.

It’s undeniable that Christians have contributed greatly to science.

A Christian can be a superb scientist but science is not Christian simply because a Christian works on it.

[briansd1]

[quote=MicroGravity]

I am and work with hundreds of scientists and I can honestly tell you that there is very little correlation (can’t comment on causation!) between being a scientist and religious belief. The one thing I have noticed is that scientists, on average, have thought through their stance more than most.[/quote]

I completely agree.

It’s undeniable that Christians have contributed greatly to science.

A Christian can be a superb scientist but science is not Christian simply because a Christian works on it.

[briansd1]

[quote=MicroGravity]

I am and work with hundreds of scientists and I can honestly tell you that there is very little correlation (can’t comment on causation!) between being a scientist and religious belief. The one thing I have noticed is that scientists, on average, have thought through their stance more than most.[/quote]

I completely agree.

It’s undeniable that Christians have contributed greatly to science.

A Christian can be a superb scientist but science is not Christian simply because a Christian works on it.

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