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June 17, 2020 at 10:55 AM #22931June 17, 2020 at 11:11 AM #818340FlyerInHiGuest
Good riddance, more for us.
One day, i will consider myself arrived when I can afford a pied a terre in Manhattan.
I don’t even need a doorman. A walk up without elevator would be ok. Wait, in my old age i will need an elevator.June 17, 2020 at 11:13 AM #818341scaredyclassicParticipantmaybe. NYC without money might not be a place for old people.
growing up there in the 70s, i remmeber it being scary. It somehow got disneyfied afetr giuliani. If it went downhill, it would be no place for the elderly.
June 17, 2020 at 11:22 AM #818342CoronitaParticipantAmericans are eyeing homes in the suburbs as pent-up demand hits housing market
June 17, 2020 at 11:40 AM #818343FlyerInHiGuest[quote=scaredyclassic]maybe. NYC without money might not be a place for old people.
growing up there in the 70s, i remmeber it being scary. It somehow got disneyfied afetr giuliani. If it went downhill, it would be no place for the elderly.[/quote]
I know scaredy. When Reagan went to NYC to showcase urban decay, that was the peak of white flight. My old cousin is a typical exurban housewife who hates the city. But her kids live in the city. One son invested in Hoboken when it was shit and he now owns a nice portfolio including commercial buildings with stores and apartments upstairs.
Suburban life in USA goes against global trends. I have my theories…. but long term, the cities will win. We’ll see.
June 17, 2020 at 12:46 PM #818344svelteParticipant[quote=Coronita]More and more people seem to be moving out of the city into the burbs. Retail numbers seem to suggest this as well.
“The Wall Street firm surveyed 1,000 city dwellers and 23% of them said they plan to relocate to the suburbs in the next 18 months.”
That is an astounding number.
I must admit that I expected a suburban migration as the younger generation aged, but never in my wildest dreams did I expect a quarter of the city population to want to leave. We’ll see if that lasts past 12 months…
June 17, 2020 at 12:58 PM #818345svelteParticipantWow! I just checked the listings in San Marcos…people are asking astounding prices! This wasn’t happening just a couple of weeks ago.
It will be interesting to see if these sell for anything near what they’re asking. Just amazing.
June 17, 2020 at 1:07 PM #818346CoronitaParticipant[quote=svelte][quote=Coronita]More and more people seem to be moving out of the city into the burbs. Retail numbers seem to suggest this as well.
“The Wall Street firm surveyed 1,000 city dwellers and 23% of them said they plan to relocate to the suburbs in the next 18 months.”
That is an astounding number.
I must admit that I expected a suburban migration as the younger generation aged, but never in my wildest dreams did I expect a quarter of the city population to want to leave. We’ll see if that lasts past 12 months…[/quote]
A lot of people don’t want to live in the city anymore. It was already a bigger pain in the ass for a family with kids. Being locked down just accelerates this trend. Having to work from home means more people want more space for a home office, a backyard where kids can pass time, and just general more space from your neighbors. Parking isn’t also a pain in the ass, as more people want to travel via car versus plane or other public transportation where they would be at a higher risk of catching something from a stranger. Good news for burbs. Bad news for cities. City life is great when single. Not so great unless you stay single.
June 17, 2020 at 1:14 PM #818347svelteParticipant[quote=Coronita] Parking isn’t also a pain in the ass…[/quote]
Over the last few years, there has also been a trend to closing off sidewalks for outdoor restaurant area and even taking away parking spots for restaurant seating. This past year parking was taken away for bike lanes and now entire streets are closing to traffic.
Maybe folks are saying enough is enough, I’m out…gonna live where the living is easy.
June 17, 2020 at 1:30 PM #818348svelteParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]Good riddance, more for us.
One day, i will consider myself arrived when I can afford a pied a terre in Manhattan.
I don’t even need a doorman. A walk up without elevator would be ok. [/quote]Unless you are living on floors 1, 2 or 3 you are one weird dude.
June 17, 2020 at 1:49 PM #818349The-ShovelerParticipantI lived in Shanghai (carless) for a few months, at first it was kind of neat, but then it became a real PITA after the first week or so (and that was just basically being on vacation). Lots of walking and carrying LOL.
Could not imagine doing it while working etc…
Doing it during the pandemic must have been just miserable.
June 17, 2020 at 3:49 PM #818351FlyerInHiGuest[quote=The-Shoveler]I lived in Shanghai (carless) for a few months, at first it was kind of neat, but then it became a real PITA after the first week or so (and that was just basically being on vacation). Lots of walking and carrying LOL.
Could not imagine doing it while working etc…
Doing it during the pandemic must have been just miserable.[/quote]
I assume you were living in a luxury serviced apartments in shanghai. I’m surprised you didn’t like it, especially if it was corporate provided.
This would be my ideal residence. So many developments like that in Asia. One day, I will say goodbye and move. I will post pictures, I promise. In the mean time, I need to earn enough money first.
June 17, 2020 at 4:31 PM #818353The-ShovelerParticipantOlder private residence (parents) in inner circle.
Was in a nice place, just a PITA to get around and carry stuff for a suburban car culture Boy like me.
I guess just not a city person.
June 17, 2020 at 7:23 PM #818356CoronitaParticipantCan’t fight the trend
June 17, 2020 at 8:05 PM #818357spdrunParticipantOF COURSE 23% of people will say “I’m moving out” when their city is locked down and everything is closed. Let’s see what the survey results are after lockdowns are eased for a few months. A time of utter panic and chaos is recipe for bad data.
I also suspect that suburban areas and areas outside of major metro areas will be more vulnerable to a “second wave.” Lower levels of population immunity and governors that apparently don’t give a damn. Also, lower levels of mask use … I see 75-80% of people in NYC wearing masks, not so in the ‘burbs or in smaller US cities.
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