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December 18, 2007 at 8:38 PM #120466December 18, 2007 at 9:13 PM #120251
no_such_reality
ParticipantDo the math!
And while you’re doing the math, figure out how much house you’ll buy when gas is $12.35/Gal, milk is pushing $18.99/Gal and that Toyota Prius you want to commute to work and save on gas is $103,999.
That will be reality if the currency devalues.
December 18, 2007 at 9:13 PM #120386no_such_reality
ParticipantDo the math!
And while you’re doing the math, figure out how much house you’ll buy when gas is $12.35/Gal, milk is pushing $18.99/Gal and that Toyota Prius you want to commute to work and save on gas is $103,999.
That will be reality if the currency devalues.
December 18, 2007 at 9:13 PM #120421no_such_reality
ParticipantDo the math!
And while you’re doing the math, figure out how much house you’ll buy when gas is $12.35/Gal, milk is pushing $18.99/Gal and that Toyota Prius you want to commute to work and save on gas is $103,999.
That will be reality if the currency devalues.
December 18, 2007 at 9:13 PM #120468no_such_reality
ParticipantDo the math!
And while you’re doing the math, figure out how much house you’ll buy when gas is $12.35/Gal, milk is pushing $18.99/Gal and that Toyota Prius you want to commute to work and save on gas is $103,999.
That will be reality if the currency devalues.
December 18, 2007 at 9:13 PM #120486no_such_reality
ParticipantDo the math!
And while you’re doing the math, figure out how much house you’ll buy when gas is $12.35/Gal, milk is pushing $18.99/Gal and that Toyota Prius you want to commute to work and save on gas is $103,999.
That will be reality if the currency devalues.
December 18, 2007 at 9:16 PM #120256RDeNiro
Participant“OK first the loan is not reduced. and if your wages go up you can still afford to buy a home.”
Let’s say you take out a loan right now and buy gold or some other asset with it. The dollar goes down another 20% in a year. You sell the gold and pay off the debt. Wouldn’t your loan in real terms go down 20% as well? That is what I mean. By the time this is over, if it takes 3 years for houses to hit bottom, hyperinflation could potentially bring the fundamentals up considerably. I’m trying to make the point that a loan denominated in dolars might be good to have. My second point was the fact that interest rates are 6% right now. Who knows what they will be in 2 or 3 years. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather wait a couple of years and keep saving to buy a heavilly discounted home, but these are things on my mind that I think I need to consider. I am doing the math!! Right now I can buy a house for what I could have bought it in 2003. The question is, is it worth waiting for houses to keep dropping given the uncertainty of the valuation of the dollar and the possibility of inflation??? Maybe it is, I keep seeing the reset graph and can’t help but think that it has to continue going down and it will be worth waiting. But these are points to consider.
December 18, 2007 at 9:16 PM #120391RDeNiro
Participant“OK first the loan is not reduced. and if your wages go up you can still afford to buy a home.”
Let’s say you take out a loan right now and buy gold or some other asset with it. The dollar goes down another 20% in a year. You sell the gold and pay off the debt. Wouldn’t your loan in real terms go down 20% as well? That is what I mean. By the time this is over, if it takes 3 years for houses to hit bottom, hyperinflation could potentially bring the fundamentals up considerably. I’m trying to make the point that a loan denominated in dolars might be good to have. My second point was the fact that interest rates are 6% right now. Who knows what they will be in 2 or 3 years. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather wait a couple of years and keep saving to buy a heavilly discounted home, but these are things on my mind that I think I need to consider. I am doing the math!! Right now I can buy a house for what I could have bought it in 2003. The question is, is it worth waiting for houses to keep dropping given the uncertainty of the valuation of the dollar and the possibility of inflation??? Maybe it is, I keep seeing the reset graph and can’t help but think that it has to continue going down and it will be worth waiting. But these are points to consider.
December 18, 2007 at 9:16 PM #120426RDeNiro
Participant“OK first the loan is not reduced. and if your wages go up you can still afford to buy a home.”
Let’s say you take out a loan right now and buy gold or some other asset with it. The dollar goes down another 20% in a year. You sell the gold and pay off the debt. Wouldn’t your loan in real terms go down 20% as well? That is what I mean. By the time this is over, if it takes 3 years for houses to hit bottom, hyperinflation could potentially bring the fundamentals up considerably. I’m trying to make the point that a loan denominated in dolars might be good to have. My second point was the fact that interest rates are 6% right now. Who knows what they will be in 2 or 3 years. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather wait a couple of years and keep saving to buy a heavilly discounted home, but these are things on my mind that I think I need to consider. I am doing the math!! Right now I can buy a house for what I could have bought it in 2003. The question is, is it worth waiting for houses to keep dropping given the uncertainty of the valuation of the dollar and the possibility of inflation??? Maybe it is, I keep seeing the reset graph and can’t help but think that it has to continue going down and it will be worth waiting. But these are points to consider.
December 18, 2007 at 9:16 PM #120472RDeNiro
Participant“OK first the loan is not reduced. and if your wages go up you can still afford to buy a home.”
Let’s say you take out a loan right now and buy gold or some other asset with it. The dollar goes down another 20% in a year. You sell the gold and pay off the debt. Wouldn’t your loan in real terms go down 20% as well? That is what I mean. By the time this is over, if it takes 3 years for houses to hit bottom, hyperinflation could potentially bring the fundamentals up considerably. I’m trying to make the point that a loan denominated in dolars might be good to have. My second point was the fact that interest rates are 6% right now. Who knows what they will be in 2 or 3 years. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather wait a couple of years and keep saving to buy a heavilly discounted home, but these are things on my mind that I think I need to consider. I am doing the math!! Right now I can buy a house for what I could have bought it in 2003. The question is, is it worth waiting for houses to keep dropping given the uncertainty of the valuation of the dollar and the possibility of inflation??? Maybe it is, I keep seeing the reset graph and can’t help but think that it has to continue going down and it will be worth waiting. But these are points to consider.
December 18, 2007 at 9:16 PM #120490RDeNiro
Participant“OK first the loan is not reduced. and if your wages go up you can still afford to buy a home.”
Let’s say you take out a loan right now and buy gold or some other asset with it. The dollar goes down another 20% in a year. You sell the gold and pay off the debt. Wouldn’t your loan in real terms go down 20% as well? That is what I mean. By the time this is over, if it takes 3 years for houses to hit bottom, hyperinflation could potentially bring the fundamentals up considerably. I’m trying to make the point that a loan denominated in dolars might be good to have. My second point was the fact that interest rates are 6% right now. Who knows what they will be in 2 or 3 years. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather wait a couple of years and keep saving to buy a heavilly discounted home, but these are things on my mind that I think I need to consider. I am doing the math!! Right now I can buy a house for what I could have bought it in 2003. The question is, is it worth waiting for houses to keep dropping given the uncertainty of the valuation of the dollar and the possibility of inflation??? Maybe it is, I keep seeing the reset graph and can’t help but think that it has to continue going down and it will be worth waiting. But these are points to consider.
December 19, 2007 at 9:57 AM #120499svelte
ParticipantTwo paragraphs from
http://money.cnn.com/2007/12/19/news/economy/fed_auctions/index.htm?cnn=yes
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These fears intensified later last week after the government reported that wholesale prices and retail prices both rose more than expected in November. And that has sparked fears on Wall Street of “stagflation,” a period of rising inflation and slowing growth.Former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan used the term “stagflation” on an appearance on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday.
—- end clip from article —-Here it comes! 1970s all over again.
December 19, 2007 at 9:57 AM #120632svelte
ParticipantTwo paragraphs from
http://money.cnn.com/2007/12/19/news/economy/fed_auctions/index.htm?cnn=yes
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These fears intensified later last week after the government reported that wholesale prices and retail prices both rose more than expected in November. And that has sparked fears on Wall Street of “stagflation,” a period of rising inflation and slowing growth.Former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan used the term “stagflation” on an appearance on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday.
—- end clip from article —-Here it comes! 1970s all over again.
December 19, 2007 at 9:57 AM #120666svelte
ParticipantTwo paragraphs from
http://money.cnn.com/2007/12/19/news/economy/fed_auctions/index.htm?cnn=yes
— begin clip from article —
These fears intensified later last week after the government reported that wholesale prices and retail prices both rose more than expected in November. And that has sparked fears on Wall Street of “stagflation,” a period of rising inflation and slowing growth.Former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan used the term “stagflation” on an appearance on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday.
—- end clip from article —-Here it comes! 1970s all over again.
December 19, 2007 at 9:57 AM #120711svelte
ParticipantTwo paragraphs from
http://money.cnn.com/2007/12/19/news/economy/fed_auctions/index.htm?cnn=yes
— begin clip from article —
These fears intensified later last week after the government reported that wholesale prices and retail prices both rose more than expected in November. And that has sparked fears on Wall Street of “stagflation,” a period of rising inflation and slowing growth.Former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan used the term “stagflation” on an appearance on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday.
—- end clip from article —-Here it comes! 1970s all over again.
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