Chula Vista better schools and newer construction

[Scarlett]

Thanks a lot for all the links, SRO! You are very well documented!
[quote=SkyRanchOwner]Scarlett,

That’s a tough decision.

The HOA up here is high at $342, The private schools can be around $200-$400/month depending on which school and Christian vs. Catholic. You would have to look around.

Sky Ranch Crestview would be in your price range. They currently have 3 homes left in the current phase, ranging from $526k – $561k.
http://lennar.com/New-Homes/California/San-Diego/Crestview-At-Sky-Ranch

They range in square footage from 2884 to 3270. All have 3 car garages.(…)
Hope this helps…[/quote]

Crestview is almost too big but really nice. I saw some plans and pics.

Wow, private school only a few hundred a month? Really? I guess I am used to hear about the super expensive La JOlla private schools, which are more in the range of couple thousand a month (or close).

thanks, I’ll check the area out first, test the commute… I work in downtown LJ, so from the 5 exit 805 I have another 15′ on city streets….

[an]

Based on API score, MMHS is ranked 8, Challenger Middle School is ranked 9, while Wangenheim Middle School is ranked 8. Elementary schools north of MM Blvd. are either 9 or 10.

So, school wise, the 3 area is quite comparable. You’re basically trading commute time for larger & newer houses. One thing to remember when comparing these areas is that, most of MM don’t have HOA (those that do are very low ~$40/month) and all of MM don’t have MR. One example would be, lets say an a house have $350/month in HOA + MR and the house sell for $360k. That’s equivalent to another house that does not have HOA/MR selling for $450k.

[an]

Based on API score, MMHS is ranked 8, Challenger Middle School is ranked 9, while Wangenheim Middle School is ranked 8. Elementary schools north of MM Blvd. are either 9 or 10.

So, school wise, the 3 area is quite comparable. You’re basically trading commute time for larger & newer houses. One thing to remember when comparing these areas is that, most of MM don’t have HOA (those that do are very low ~$40/month) and all of MM don’t have MR. One example would be, lets say an a house have $350/month in HOA + MR and the house sell for $360k. That’s equivalent to another house that does not have HOA/MR selling for $450k.

[an]

Based on API score, MMHS is ranked 8, Challenger Middle School is ranked 9, while Wangenheim Middle School is ranked 8. Elementary schools north of MM Blvd. are either 9 or 10.

So, school wise, the 3 area is quite comparable. You’re basically trading commute time for larger & newer houses. One thing to remember when comparing these areas is that, most of MM don’t have HOA (those that do are very low ~$40/month) and all of MM don’t have MR. One example would be, lets say an a house have $350/month in HOA + MR and the house sell for $360k. That’s equivalent to another house that does not have HOA/MR selling for $450k.

[an]

Based on API score, MMHS is ranked 8, Challenger Middle School is ranked 9, while Wangenheim Middle School is ranked 8. Elementary schools north of MM Blvd. are either 9 or 10.

So, school wise, the 3 area is quite comparable. You’re basically trading commute time for larger & newer houses. One thing to remember when comparing these areas is that, most of MM don’t have HOA (those that do are very low ~$40/month) and all of MM don’t have MR. One example would be, lets say an a house have $350/month in HOA + MR and the house sell for $360k. That’s equivalent to another house that does not have HOA/MR selling for $450k.

[an]

Based on API score, MMHS is ranked 8, Challenger Middle School is ranked 9, while Wangenheim Middle School is ranked 8. Elementary schools north of MM Blvd. are either 9 or 10.

So, school wise, the 3 area is quite comparable. You’re basically trading commute time for larger & newer houses. One thing to remember when comparing these areas is that, most of MM don’t have HOA (those that do are very low ~$40/month) and all of MM don’t have MR. One example would be, lets say an a house have $350/month in HOA + MR and the house sell for $360k. That’s equivalent to another house that does not have HOA/MR selling for $450k.

[Scarlett]

[quote=CONCHO]How much is your time worth? How much is time spent with your family worth? Any time you’re looking at 1.5 or more hours in a car, 5 days a week, that’s a significant amount of time away from your family, it’s a significant amount of time you can’t be shopping, exercising, cleaning the house, etc… That time has to be made up somehow. Also, 40000 a year die in traffic accidents and many times that are seriously injured. Every minute you spend in a car increases your chances.

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True, when you put it that way, 1.5 hrs a day sounds like a LOT….but realistically wherever I’d buy (a decent size SFR in 500K range) I’d have to commute at least 30′ to work (e.g. PQ, CMR, 4S, Sabre Springs). SO the difference doesn’t become THAT big. It would be 1.5 hrs vs 1 hr. daily. Just half an hour extra daily.

It’s not like I have a choice to live somewhere next to work in a decent place that I can afford. If I had, I could certainly say 1.5 hrs a day it’s not worth it.

Edit: Our first priority is the schools, which is why we looked first in PUSD. Just too little inventory and still, IMHO, overpriced. At least there you can say that you get excellent schools, for commuting longer.

Many people really don’t think that commuting 45′ one way is a big deal, in fact they didn’t even bother mentioning it to us when we were looking for our 1st house, and they shrugged when we were complaining about the commute. I changed workplaces, but still, I couldn’t find ONE to say that (s)he’d rather commute less even if that makes for a much smaller/pricier house. EVERYBODY wants the big house and good schools, commute be damned. I have working moms co-workers that live in Temecula and Vista and it takes them about 1 hr one way. They don’t complain (like I was).

[Scarlett]

[quote=CONCHO]How much is your time worth? How much is time spent with your family worth? Any time you’re looking at 1.5 or more hours in a car, 5 days a week, that’s a significant amount of time away from your family, it’s a significant amount of time you can’t be shopping, exercising, cleaning the house, etc… That time has to be made up somehow. Also, 40000 a year die in traffic accidents and many times that are seriously injured. Every minute you spend in a car increases your chances.

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True, when you put it that way, 1.5 hrs a day sounds like a LOT….but realistically wherever I’d buy (a decent size SFR in 500K range) I’d have to commute at least 30′ to work (e.g. PQ, CMR, 4S, Sabre Springs). SO the difference doesn’t become THAT big. It would be 1.5 hrs vs 1 hr. daily. Just half an hour extra daily.

It’s not like I have a choice to live somewhere next to work in a decent place that I can afford. If I had, I could certainly say 1.5 hrs a day it’s not worth it.

Edit: Our first priority is the schools, which is why we looked first in PUSD. Just too little inventory and still, IMHO, overpriced. At least there you can say that you get excellent schools, for commuting longer.

Many people really don’t think that commuting 45′ one way is a big deal, in fact they didn’t even bother mentioning it to us when we were looking for our 1st house, and they shrugged when we were complaining about the commute. I changed workplaces, but still, I couldn’t find ONE to say that (s)he’d rather commute less even if that makes for a much smaller/pricier house. EVERYBODY wants the big house and good schools, commute be damned. I have working moms co-workers that live in Temecula and Vista and it takes them about 1 hr one way. They don’t complain (like I was).

[Scarlett]

[quote=CONCHO]How much is your time worth? How much is time spent with your family worth? Any time you’re looking at 1.5 or more hours in a car, 5 days a week, that’s a significant amount of time away from your family, it’s a significant amount of time you can’t be shopping, exercising, cleaning the house, etc… That time has to be made up somehow. Also, 40000 a year die in traffic accidents and many times that are seriously injured. Every minute you spend in a car increases your chances.

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True, when you put it that way, 1.5 hrs a day sounds like a LOT….but realistically wherever I’d buy (a decent size SFR in 500K range) I’d have to commute at least 30′ to work (e.g. PQ, CMR, 4S, Sabre Springs). SO the difference doesn’t become THAT big. It would be 1.5 hrs vs 1 hr. daily. Just half an hour extra daily.

It’s not like I have a choice to live somewhere next to work in a decent place that I can afford. If I had, I could certainly say 1.5 hrs a day it’s not worth it.

Edit: Our first priority is the schools, which is why we looked first in PUSD. Just too little inventory and still, IMHO, overpriced. At least there you can say that you get excellent schools, for commuting longer.

Many people really don’t think that commuting 45′ one way is a big deal, in fact they didn’t even bother mentioning it to us when we were looking for our 1st house, and they shrugged when we were complaining about the commute. I changed workplaces, but still, I couldn’t find ONE to say that (s)he’d rather commute less even if that makes for a much smaller/pricier house. EVERYBODY wants the big house and good schools, commute be damned. I have working moms co-workers that live in Temecula and Vista and it takes them about 1 hr one way. They don’t complain (like I was).

[Scarlett]

[quote=CONCHO]How much is your time worth? How much is time spent with your family worth? Any time you’re looking at 1.5 or more hours in a car, 5 days a week, that’s a significant amount of time away from your family, it’s a significant amount of time you can’t be shopping, exercising, cleaning the house, etc… That time has to be made up somehow. Also, 40000 a year die in traffic accidents and many times that are seriously injured. Every minute you spend in a car increases your chances.

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True, when you put it that way, 1.5 hrs a day sounds like a LOT….but realistically wherever I’d buy (a decent size SFR in 500K range) I’d have to commute at least 30′ to work (e.g. PQ, CMR, 4S, Sabre Springs). SO the difference doesn’t become THAT big. It would be 1.5 hrs vs 1 hr. daily. Just half an hour extra daily.

It’s not like I have a choice to live somewhere next to work in a decent place that I can afford. If I had, I could certainly say 1.5 hrs a day it’s not worth it.

Edit: Our first priority is the schools, which is why we looked first in PUSD. Just too little inventory and still, IMHO, overpriced. At least there you can say that you get excellent schools, for commuting longer.

Many people really don’t think that commuting 45′ one way is a big deal, in fact they didn’t even bother mentioning it to us when we were looking for our 1st house, and they shrugged when we were complaining about the commute. I changed workplaces, but still, I couldn’t find ONE to say that (s)he’d rather commute less even if that makes for a much smaller/pricier house. EVERYBODY wants the big house and good schools, commute be damned. I have working moms co-workers that live in Temecula and Vista and it takes them about 1 hr one way. They don’t complain (like I was).

[Scarlett]

[quote=CONCHO]How much is your time worth? How much is time spent with your family worth? Any time you’re looking at 1.5 or more hours in a car, 5 days a week, that’s a significant amount of time away from your family, it’s a significant amount of time you can’t be shopping, exercising, cleaning the house, etc… That time has to be made up somehow. Also, 40000 a year die in traffic accidents and many times that are seriously injured. Every minute you spend in a car increases your chances.

[/quote]

True, when you put it that way, 1.5 hrs a day sounds like a LOT….but realistically wherever I’d buy (a decent size SFR in 500K range) I’d have to commute at least 30′ to work (e.g. PQ, CMR, 4S, Sabre Springs). SO the difference doesn’t become THAT big. It would be 1.5 hrs vs 1 hr. daily. Just half an hour extra daily.

It’s not like I have a choice to live somewhere next to work in a decent place that I can afford. If I had, I could certainly say 1.5 hrs a day it’s not worth it.

Edit: Our first priority is the schools, which is why we looked first in PUSD. Just too little inventory and still, IMHO, overpriced. At least there you can say that you get excellent schools, for commuting longer.

Many people really don’t think that commuting 45′ one way is a big deal, in fact they didn’t even bother mentioning it to us when we were looking for our 1st house, and they shrugged when we were complaining about the commute. I changed workplaces, but still, I couldn’t find ONE to say that (s)he’d rather commute less even if that makes for a much smaller/pricier house. EVERYBODY wants the big house and good schools, commute be damned. I have working moms co-workers that live in Temecula and Vista and it takes them about 1 hr one way. They don’t complain (like I was).

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It’s not like I have a choice to live somewhere next to work in a decent place that I can afford. If I had, I could certainly say 1.5 hrs a day it’s not worth it.

Depends on what you mean by a “decent place”. To me a modest condo 5 minutes from work would be more decent than a house with a big yard 30 minutes away. That’s 50 more minutes a day I’d have to myself, 50 more minutes a day I wouldn’t be subjecting myself to the risk of a car accident, 50 minutes a day I wouldn’t be sitting on my ass instead of walking around, etc…

50 minutes a day
250 minutes a week
1000 minutes a month
12000 minutes a year (200 hours)

How much are you paid an hour? Let’s say you make $50 an hour, cutting out 50 minutes of commute per day is equivalent to a $10K/year raise.

Just something to think about. I do think that in the future more people will think as I do. I grew up in a “good school district” in the suburbs with parents that drove long commutes to work. They divorced when I was 8. Both developed substance abuse issues. One died at 67 and the other is very unhealthy at 73. They spent a lot of their 30s and 40s in cars, driving. A lot of my fellow students from that good school district turned out to be total losers, including many of the top students.

[blahblahblah]

It’s not like I have a choice to live somewhere next to work in a decent place that I can afford. If I had, I could certainly say 1.5 hrs a day it’s not worth it.

Depends on what you mean by a “decent place”. To me a modest condo 5 minutes from work would be more decent than a house with a big yard 30 minutes away. That’s 50 more minutes a day I’d have to myself, 50 more minutes a day I wouldn’t be subjecting myself to the risk of a car accident, 50 minutes a day I wouldn’t be sitting on my ass instead of walking around, etc…

50 minutes a day
250 minutes a week
1000 minutes a month
12000 minutes a year (200 hours)

How much are you paid an hour? Let’s say you make $50 an hour, cutting out 50 minutes of commute per day is equivalent to a $10K/year raise.

Just something to think about. I do think that in the future more people will think as I do. I grew up in a “good school district” in the suburbs with parents that drove long commutes to work. They divorced when I was 8. Both developed substance abuse issues. One died at 67 and the other is very unhealthy at 73. They spent a lot of their 30s and 40s in cars, driving. A lot of my fellow students from that good school district turned out to be total losers, including many of the top students.

[blahblahblah]

It’s not like I have a choice to live somewhere next to work in a decent place that I can afford. If I had, I could certainly say 1.5 hrs a day it’s not worth it.

Depends on what you mean by a “decent place”. To me a modest condo 5 minutes from work would be more decent than a house with a big yard 30 minutes away. That’s 50 more minutes a day I’d have to myself, 50 more minutes a day I wouldn’t be subjecting myself to the risk of a car accident, 50 minutes a day I wouldn’t be sitting on my ass instead of walking around, etc…

50 minutes a day
250 minutes a week
1000 minutes a month
12000 minutes a year (200 hours)

How much are you paid an hour? Let’s say you make $50 an hour, cutting out 50 minutes of commute per day is equivalent to a $10K/year raise.

Just something to think about. I do think that in the future more people will think as I do. I grew up in a “good school district” in the suburbs with parents that drove long commutes to work. They divorced when I was 8. Both developed substance abuse issues. One died at 67 and the other is very unhealthy at 73. They spent a lot of their 30s and 40s in cars, driving. A lot of my fellow students from that good school district turned out to be total losers, including many of the top students.

[blahblahblah]

It’s not like I have a choice to live somewhere next to work in a decent place that I can afford. If I had, I could certainly say 1.5 hrs a day it’s not worth it.

Depends on what you mean by a “decent place”. To me a modest condo 5 minutes from work would be more decent than a house with a big yard 30 minutes away. That’s 50 more minutes a day I’d have to myself, 50 more minutes a day I wouldn’t be subjecting myself to the risk of a car accident, 50 minutes a day I wouldn’t be sitting on my ass instead of walking around, etc…

50 minutes a day
250 minutes a week
1000 minutes a month
12000 minutes a year (200 hours)

How much are you paid an hour? Let’s say you make $50 an hour, cutting out 50 minutes of commute per day is equivalent to a $10K/year raise.

Just something to think about. I do think that in the future more people will think as I do. I grew up in a “good school district” in the suburbs with parents that drove long commutes to work. They divorced when I was 8. Both developed substance abuse issues. One died at 67 and the other is very unhealthy at 73. They spent a lot of their 30s and 40s in cars, driving. A lot of my fellow students from that good school district turned out to be total losers, including many of the top students.

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