Carmel Valley Auction

[Sandi Egan]

You’re right, FLU.
I had an impression condos are doing better because many of them still float around $400/sqft while you can find SFRs for about $320/sqft. Not very large ones either.

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Pell Place Trust Deed Sale.
This is public information, if you do the research. I’m passing it along in case it is of interest to anyone:

Loan File No: 899545
Date Recorded: 10/11/07
File No: 0654700
Trustee No: 20070156200508
Loan Date: 12/19/06
Loan No:
Trustee : NDEx West 714/573-1965
Beneficary : CitiMortgage c/o 15000 Surveyor Blvd #500, Addison, TX 75001
Original Loan : $384,000.00
Default In.. : P&I 07/01/2007
Reinstate Date: 10/10/07
Reinstate Amount: $12,482.00
Land Value: $290,206.00
Improvment Value: $189,794.00
Parcle No: 307-430-21-63
Legal Code: Us334per Doc05-652237&und Int In Por Lots4&8&a&all Lot 7
Site Address: 3887 Pell Pl 334, San Diego Ca 92130-4153
Sale Date: 02/04/08
Sale Time: 10:00 am
Sale Location: by the statue at entr E Cty Regional Ctr,250 E Main,El Cajon
TMap: 1188-a6
Deed No: 12/19/2006 899543
SqFt: 1020
No Bedrooms: 2.0
No Baths: 2.0
Zone: R-1
Year Built: 2006

Name: Mr Neda Sharififarshad
Address: 3887 Pell Pl Unit 334 San Diego Ca 92130
Phone: 858/523-1033

[jpinpb]

Pell Place Trust Deed Sale.
This is public information, if you do the research. I’m passing it along in case it is of interest to anyone:

Loan File No: 899545
Date Recorded: 10/11/07
File No: 0654700
Trustee No: 20070156200508
Loan Date: 12/19/06
Loan No:
Trustee : NDEx West 714/573-1965
Beneficary : CitiMortgage c/o 15000 Surveyor Blvd #500, Addison, TX 75001
Original Loan : $384,000.00
Default In.. : P&I 07/01/2007
Reinstate Date: 10/10/07
Reinstate Amount: $12,482.00
Land Value: $290,206.00
Improvment Value: $189,794.00
Parcle No: 307-430-21-63
Legal Code: Us334per Doc05-652237&und Int In Por Lots4&8&a&all Lot 7
Site Address: 3887 Pell Pl 334, San Diego Ca 92130-4153
Sale Date: 02/04/08
Sale Time: 10:00 am
Sale Location: by the statue at entr E Cty Regional Ctr,250 E Main,El Cajon
TMap: 1188-a6
Deed No: 12/19/2006 899543
SqFt: 1020
No Bedrooms: 2.0
No Baths: 2.0
Zone: R-1
Year Built: 2006

Name: Mr Neda Sharififarshad
Address: 3887 Pell Pl Unit 334 San Diego Ca 92130
Phone: 858/523-1033

[jpinpb]

Pell Place Trust Deed Sale.
This is public information, if you do the research. I’m passing it along in case it is of interest to anyone:

Loan File No: 899545
Date Recorded: 10/11/07
File No: 0654700
Trustee No: 20070156200508
Loan Date: 12/19/06
Loan No:
Trustee : NDEx West 714/573-1965
Beneficary : CitiMortgage c/o 15000 Surveyor Blvd #500, Addison, TX 75001
Original Loan : $384,000.00
Default In.. : P&I 07/01/2007
Reinstate Date: 10/10/07
Reinstate Amount: $12,482.00
Land Value: $290,206.00
Improvment Value: $189,794.00
Parcle No: 307-430-21-63
Legal Code: Us334per Doc05-652237&und Int In Por Lots4&8&a&all Lot 7
Site Address: 3887 Pell Pl 334, San Diego Ca 92130-4153
Sale Date: 02/04/08
Sale Time: 10:00 am
Sale Location: by the statue at entr E Cty Regional Ctr,250 E Main,El Cajon
TMap: 1188-a6
Deed No: 12/19/2006 899543
SqFt: 1020
No Bedrooms: 2.0
No Baths: 2.0
Zone: R-1
Year Built: 2006

Name: Mr Neda Sharififarshad
Address: 3887 Pell Pl Unit 334 San Diego Ca 92130
Phone: 858/523-1033

[jpinpb]

Pell Place Trust Deed Sale.
This is public information, if you do the research. I’m passing it along in case it is of interest to anyone:

Loan File No: 899545
Date Recorded: 10/11/07
File No: 0654700
Trustee No: 20070156200508
Loan Date: 12/19/06
Loan No:
Trustee : NDEx West 714/573-1965
Beneficary : CitiMortgage c/o 15000 Surveyor Blvd #500, Addison, TX 75001
Original Loan : $384,000.00
Default In.. : P&I 07/01/2007
Reinstate Date: 10/10/07
Reinstate Amount: $12,482.00
Land Value: $290,206.00
Improvment Value: $189,794.00
Parcle No: 307-430-21-63
Legal Code: Us334per Doc05-652237&und Int In Por Lots4&8&a&all Lot 7
Site Address: 3887 Pell Pl 334, San Diego Ca 92130-4153
Sale Date: 02/04/08
Sale Time: 10:00 am
Sale Location: by the statue at entr E Cty Regional Ctr,250 E Main,El Cajon
TMap: 1188-a6
Deed No: 12/19/2006 899543
SqFt: 1020
No Bedrooms: 2.0
No Baths: 2.0
Zone: R-1
Year Built: 2006

Name: Mr Neda Sharififarshad
Address: 3887 Pell Pl Unit 334 San Diego Ca 92130
Phone: 858/523-1033

[jpinpb]

Pell Place Trust Deed Sale.
This is public information, if you do the research. I’m passing it along in case it is of interest to anyone:

Loan File No: 899545
Date Recorded: 10/11/07
File No: 0654700
Trustee No: 20070156200508
Loan Date: 12/19/06
Loan No:
Trustee : NDEx West 714/573-1965
Beneficary : CitiMortgage c/o 15000 Surveyor Blvd #500, Addison, TX 75001
Original Loan : $384,000.00
Default In.. : P&I 07/01/2007
Reinstate Date: 10/10/07
Reinstate Amount: $12,482.00
Land Value: $290,206.00
Improvment Value: $189,794.00
Parcle No: 307-430-21-63
Legal Code: Us334per Doc05-652237&und Int In Por Lots4&8&a&all Lot 7
Site Address: 3887 Pell Pl 334, San Diego Ca 92130-4153
Sale Date: 02/04/08
Sale Time: 10:00 am
Sale Location: by the statue at entr E Cty Regional Ctr,250 E Main,El Cajon
TMap: 1188-a6
Deed No: 12/19/2006 899543
SqFt: 1020
No Bedrooms: 2.0
No Baths: 2.0
Zone: R-1
Year Built: 2006

Name: Mr Neda Sharififarshad
Address: 3887 Pell Pl Unit 334 San Diego Ca 92130
Phone: 858/523-1033

[NotCranky]

FLU

“So peering over some comps that I collected throughout the year. I would say (and realtors correct me if I’m wrong)

A good portion CV attached homes are at mid to end of 2003 prices.”

This is what it looks like to me. Your detached market has pretty much leveled with sometime in 2004. Anyway the median is for 2007 is now under that for 2004. It looks like you have a way to go to get back to any 2003 time frame, broadly speaking.

Attached median:
2000-274
2001-305
2002-350
2003- Jan through June 390k entire year 401k
4th qtr 420K
2004-520
2005-545
2006-480
2007-491

I know we don’t go crazy for the median but I looked at a sampling of individual model matches ,very un-scientifically and it works out too. It doesn’t seem like the inventory mix on condos would be affecting the median too much. I did some 2004&2003 model/price matches or near matches. 2003 and earlier prices will really be significant.

As far as distress. It is a tough call. Obviously some of the indicators are there . You have the auction, short sales and REO’s adding up. People selling who bought 1-2 years ago is not normal. The strongest indicator IMO is when you see several model match listings in same complex with really erratic pricing especially if the low price lead is an REO. I think I see a little of that on Pell if I squint hard but not nearly as much as was happening in complexes, say in El Cajon, that have imploded.Maybe a few months down the road.

Best case scenario, if you want to see those prices fall drastically in your neck of the woods, would be that it is at or nearing the proverbial “tipping” point. Like many have said, maybe there would have to be more of a catalyst due to the current financial strength or the owners.

EDIT: One day I think I will really learn what that thing Bugs says means, “prices are set at the margins” and throw out the idea that the current owners means and resolve will determine future prices.

Here is attached volume:
2000-399
2001-298
2002-365
2003-394
2004-328
2005-300
2006-240
2007-329

You might want to compare historical appreciation and subsequent depreciation on detached to see how attached and detached for CV compare on a percentage basis instead of a calendar basis.

[NotCranky]

FLU

“So peering over some comps that I collected throughout the year. I would say (and realtors correct me if I’m wrong)

A good portion CV attached homes are at mid to end of 2003 prices.”

This is what it looks like to me. Your detached market has pretty much leveled with sometime in 2004. Anyway the median is for 2007 is now under that for 2004. It looks like you have a way to go to get back to any 2003 time frame, broadly speaking.

Attached median:
2000-274
2001-305
2002-350
2003- Jan through June 390k entire year 401k
4th qtr 420K
2004-520
2005-545
2006-480
2007-491

I know we don’t go crazy for the median but I looked at a sampling of individual model matches ,very un-scientifically and it works out too. It doesn’t seem like the inventory mix on condos would be affecting the median too much. I did some 2004&2003 model/price matches or near matches. 2003 and earlier prices will really be significant.

As far as distress. It is a tough call. Obviously some of the indicators are there . You have the auction, short sales and REO’s adding up. People selling who bought 1-2 years ago is not normal. The strongest indicator IMO is when you see several model match listings in same complex with really erratic pricing especially if the low price lead is an REO. I think I see a little of that on Pell if I squint hard but not nearly as much as was happening in complexes, say in El Cajon, that have imploded.Maybe a few months down the road.

Best case scenario, if you want to see those prices fall drastically in your neck of the woods, would be that it is at or nearing the proverbial “tipping” point. Like many have said, maybe there would have to be more of a catalyst due to the current financial strength or the owners.

EDIT: One day I think I will really learn what that thing Bugs says means, “prices are set at the margins” and throw out the idea that the current owners means and resolve will determine future prices.

Here is attached volume:
2000-399
2001-298
2002-365
2003-394
2004-328
2005-300
2006-240
2007-329

You might want to compare historical appreciation and subsequent depreciation on detached to see how attached and detached for CV compare on a percentage basis instead of a calendar basis.

[NotCranky]

FLU

“So peering over some comps that I collected throughout the year. I would say (and realtors correct me if I’m wrong)

A good portion CV attached homes are at mid to end of 2003 prices.”

This is what it looks like to me. Your detached market has pretty much leveled with sometime in 2004. Anyway the median is for 2007 is now under that for 2004. It looks like you have a way to go to get back to any 2003 time frame, broadly speaking.

Attached median:
2000-274
2001-305
2002-350
2003- Jan through June 390k entire year 401k
4th qtr 420K
2004-520
2005-545
2006-480
2007-491

I know we don’t go crazy for the median but I looked at a sampling of individual model matches ,very un-scientifically and it works out too. It doesn’t seem like the inventory mix on condos would be affecting the median too much. I did some 2004&2003 model/price matches or near matches. 2003 and earlier prices will really be significant.

As far as distress. It is a tough call. Obviously some of the indicators are there . You have the auction, short sales and REO’s adding up. People selling who bought 1-2 years ago is not normal. The strongest indicator IMO is when you see several model match listings in same complex with really erratic pricing especially if the low price lead is an REO. I think I see a little of that on Pell if I squint hard but not nearly as much as was happening in complexes, say in El Cajon, that have imploded.Maybe a few months down the road.

Best case scenario, if you want to see those prices fall drastically in your neck of the woods, would be that it is at or nearing the proverbial “tipping” point. Like many have said, maybe there would have to be more of a catalyst due to the current financial strength or the owners.

EDIT: One day I think I will really learn what that thing Bugs says means, “prices are set at the margins” and throw out the idea that the current owners means and resolve will determine future prices.

Here is attached volume:
2000-399
2001-298
2002-365
2003-394
2004-328
2005-300
2006-240
2007-329

You might want to compare historical appreciation and subsequent depreciation on detached to see how attached and detached for CV compare on a percentage basis instead of a calendar basis.

[NotCranky]

FLU

“So peering over some comps that I collected throughout the year. I would say (and realtors correct me if I’m wrong)

A good portion CV attached homes are at mid to end of 2003 prices.”

This is what it looks like to me. Your detached market has pretty much leveled with sometime in 2004. Anyway the median is for 2007 is now under that for 2004. It looks like you have a way to go to get back to any 2003 time frame, broadly speaking.

Attached median:
2000-274
2001-305
2002-350
2003- Jan through June 390k entire year 401k
4th qtr 420K
2004-520
2005-545
2006-480
2007-491

I know we don’t go crazy for the median but I looked at a sampling of individual model matches ,very un-scientifically and it works out too. It doesn’t seem like the inventory mix on condos would be affecting the median too much. I did some 2004&2003 model/price matches or near matches. 2003 and earlier prices will really be significant.

As far as distress. It is a tough call. Obviously some of the indicators are there . You have the auction, short sales and REO’s adding up. People selling who bought 1-2 years ago is not normal. The strongest indicator IMO is when you see several model match listings in same complex with really erratic pricing especially if the low price lead is an REO. I think I see a little of that on Pell if I squint hard but not nearly as much as was happening in complexes, say in El Cajon, that have imploded.Maybe a few months down the road.

Best case scenario, if you want to see those prices fall drastically in your neck of the woods, would be that it is at or nearing the proverbial “tipping” point. Like many have said, maybe there would have to be more of a catalyst due to the current financial strength or the owners.

EDIT: One day I think I will really learn what that thing Bugs says means, “prices are set at the margins” and throw out the idea that the current owners means and resolve will determine future prices.

Here is attached volume:
2000-399
2001-298
2002-365
2003-394
2004-328
2005-300
2006-240
2007-329

You might want to compare historical appreciation and subsequent depreciation on detached to see how attached and detached for CV compare on a percentage basis instead of a calendar basis.

[NotCranky]

FLU

“So peering over some comps that I collected throughout the year. I would say (and realtors correct me if I’m wrong)

A good portion CV attached homes are at mid to end of 2003 prices.”

This is what it looks like to me. Your detached market has pretty much leveled with sometime in 2004. Anyway the median is for 2007 is now under that for 2004. It looks like you have a way to go to get back to any 2003 time frame, broadly speaking.

Attached median:
2000-274
2001-305
2002-350
2003- Jan through June 390k entire year 401k
4th qtr 420K
2004-520
2005-545
2006-480
2007-491

I know we don’t go crazy for the median but I looked at a sampling of individual model matches ,very un-scientifically and it works out too. It doesn’t seem like the inventory mix on condos would be affecting the median too much. I did some 2004&2003 model/price matches or near matches. 2003 and earlier prices will really be significant.

As far as distress. It is a tough call. Obviously some of the indicators are there . You have the auction, short sales and REO’s adding up. People selling who bought 1-2 years ago is not normal. The strongest indicator IMO is when you see several model match listings in same complex with really erratic pricing especially if the low price lead is an REO. I think I see a little of that on Pell if I squint hard but not nearly as much as was happening in complexes, say in El Cajon, that have imploded.Maybe a few months down the road.

Best case scenario, if you want to see those prices fall drastically in your neck of the woods, would be that it is at or nearing the proverbial “tipping” point. Like many have said, maybe there would have to be more of a catalyst due to the current financial strength or the owners.

EDIT: One day I think I will really learn what that thing Bugs says means, “prices are set at the margins” and throw out the idea that the current owners means and resolve will determine future prices.

Here is attached volume:
2000-399
2001-298
2002-365
2003-394
2004-328
2005-300
2006-240
2007-329

You might want to compare historical appreciation and subsequent depreciation on detached to see how attached and detached for CV compare on a percentage basis instead of a calendar basis.

[newcomer]

fat_lazy_union, or anyone who attended the auction, any good deals?

[newcomer]

fat_lazy_union, or anyone who attended the auction, any good deals?

[newcomer]

fat_lazy_union, or anyone who attended the auction, any good deals?

[newcomer]

fat_lazy_union, or anyone who attended the auction, any good deals?

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