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August 17, 2007 at 3:41 PM #77351August 17, 2007 at 5:42 PM #77264CostaMesaParticipant
Try buying an American made toaster…clock radio…coffeemaker…disposall…
GFL. BTDT, got the headache.
There’s two or three American companies still making shoes. A handful making clothes, but most are very limited production as samples.
In my business, Micron is slashing production in American factories and sending virtually all of the work elsewhere.
I’m coming to believe that the only viable export left in this country is education. I just finished up a masters and there were ~10% domestic grad students in my department. The majority of the foreign students don’t want to stay here, they just want the paper that differentiates them from others where they’re from.
It’s pretty bad…
August 17, 2007 at 5:42 PM #77384CostaMesaParticipantTry buying an American made toaster…clock radio…coffeemaker…disposall…
GFL. BTDT, got the headache.
There’s two or three American companies still making shoes. A handful making clothes, but most are very limited production as samples.
In my business, Micron is slashing production in American factories and sending virtually all of the work elsewhere.
I’m coming to believe that the only viable export left in this country is education. I just finished up a masters and there were ~10% domestic grad students in my department. The majority of the foreign students don’t want to stay here, they just want the paper that differentiates them from others where they’re from.
It’s pretty bad…
August 17, 2007 at 5:42 PM #77411CostaMesaParticipantTry buying an American made toaster…clock radio…coffeemaker…disposall…
GFL. BTDT, got the headache.
There’s two or three American companies still making shoes. A handful making clothes, but most are very limited production as samples.
In my business, Micron is slashing production in American factories and sending virtually all of the work elsewhere.
I’m coming to believe that the only viable export left in this country is education. I just finished up a masters and there were ~10% domestic grad students in my department. The majority of the foreign students don’t want to stay here, they just want the paper that differentiates them from others where they’re from.
It’s pretty bad…
August 17, 2007 at 5:48 PM #77273drunkleParticipantthere is the defense industry. and boeing. and lawyers. and hippies. exporting hippies and importing techies doesn’t sound that bad.
August 17, 2007 at 5:48 PM #77394drunkleParticipantthere is the defense industry. and boeing. and lawyers. and hippies. exporting hippies and importing techies doesn’t sound that bad.
August 17, 2007 at 5:48 PM #77420drunkleParticipantthere is the defense industry. and boeing. and lawyers. and hippies. exporting hippies and importing techies doesn’t sound that bad.
August 17, 2007 at 6:11 PM #77285bsrsharmaParticipantboeing. and lawyers
There are problems in Boeing too, only less visible. They have lost a huge market share to Airbus. To win markets, they are spreading their new model production all over the globe. Only the final assembly is done @ Boeing facility. We went last year to their Everett factory. Nothing really impressive other than huge assembly hall. Never got to see any huge metal bending type of work. It was mostly welding and painting, electrical harness placement, seats and storage, toilet placement etc., Glorified manufactured home building!
Now lawyers, that this country has more than anyplace in the universe!
August 17, 2007 at 6:11 PM #77406bsrsharmaParticipantboeing. and lawyers
There are problems in Boeing too, only less visible. They have lost a huge market share to Airbus. To win markets, they are spreading their new model production all over the globe. Only the final assembly is done @ Boeing facility. We went last year to their Everett factory. Nothing really impressive other than huge assembly hall. Never got to see any huge metal bending type of work. It was mostly welding and painting, electrical harness placement, seats and storage, toilet placement etc., Glorified manufactured home building!
Now lawyers, that this country has more than anyplace in the universe!
August 17, 2007 at 6:11 PM #77432bsrsharmaParticipantboeing. and lawyers
There are problems in Boeing too, only less visible. They have lost a huge market share to Airbus. To win markets, they are spreading their new model production all over the globe. Only the final assembly is done @ Boeing facility. We went last year to their Everett factory. Nothing really impressive other than huge assembly hall. Never got to see any huge metal bending type of work. It was mostly welding and painting, electrical harness placement, seats and storage, toilet placement etc., Glorified manufactured home building!
Now lawyers, that this country has more than anyplace in the universe!
August 17, 2007 at 6:20 PM #77294beanmaestroParticipantOkay, radelow’s comment about the shoes made me scratch my head.
I’m a pretty good at leatherworking; If I’m not drowning in mortgage payments, I may well quit engineering in a decade or two and make custom leather goods as a second career. I’ve made a half-dozen pairs of custom shoes, but it takes a lot of patient handwork and practice to make a high-quality shoe. It’s not easy, and I’m definitely not there yet.
I don’t see why an American or Italian shoemaker’s products are any better than a Chinese or Mexican’s. In fact, when the product I want is sold by both, I kinda want to support the Chinese shoemaker to improve his family’s standard of living.
August 17, 2007 at 6:20 PM #77415beanmaestroParticipantOkay, radelow’s comment about the shoes made me scratch my head.
I’m a pretty good at leatherworking; If I’m not drowning in mortgage payments, I may well quit engineering in a decade or two and make custom leather goods as a second career. I’ve made a half-dozen pairs of custom shoes, but it takes a lot of patient handwork and practice to make a high-quality shoe. It’s not easy, and I’m definitely not there yet.
I don’t see why an American or Italian shoemaker’s products are any better than a Chinese or Mexican’s. In fact, when the product I want is sold by both, I kinda want to support the Chinese shoemaker to improve his family’s standard of living.
August 17, 2007 at 6:20 PM #77441beanmaestroParticipantOkay, radelow’s comment about the shoes made me scratch my head.
I’m a pretty good at leatherworking; If I’m not drowning in mortgage payments, I may well quit engineering in a decade or two and make custom leather goods as a second career. I’ve made a half-dozen pairs of custom shoes, but it takes a lot of patient handwork and practice to make a high-quality shoe. It’s not easy, and I’m definitely not there yet.
I don’t see why an American or Italian shoemaker’s products are any better than a Chinese or Mexican’s. In fact, when the product I want is sold by both, I kinda want to support the Chinese shoemaker to improve his family’s standard of living.
August 17, 2007 at 6:41 PM #77306drunkleParticipantbsr:
loss of market share to airbus… isn’t that just euro gaming? the missed deadlines and production timetables at airbus don’t count?
dunno about technological differences, but… if you can’t deliver, you can’t sell…
bean:
i love new balance shoes. they fit, they’re comfortable and they’re light. my 10 year old dr. martens are certainly a testament to good craftsmanship. for anything else, for mass produced payless shoes… you get what you pay for…
August 17, 2007 at 6:41 PM #77427drunkleParticipantbsr:
loss of market share to airbus… isn’t that just euro gaming? the missed deadlines and production timetables at airbus don’t count?
dunno about technological differences, but… if you can’t deliver, you can’t sell…
bean:
i love new balance shoes. they fit, they’re comfortable and they’re light. my 10 year old dr. martens are certainly a testament to good craftsmanship. for anything else, for mass produced payless shoes… you get what you pay for…
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