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March 21, 2009 at 11:42 PM #371807March 22, 2009 at 5:09 AM #371203
4plexowner
Participant“We’ve crossed the Rubicon”
If we hadn’t crossed it already, we certainly did so wednesday
On Wed the USA announced to the world that they would start directly monetizing their own debt – this is the most inflationary step that can be taken in any monetary system
Let’s simplify the scenario so we can all understand
Prior to wed, the US Treasury dept would create US Treasury bonds to sell on the open market – these pieces of paper were then sold to anyone who wanted them, primarily the Chinese for the last few years
In order to buy our bonds, the Chinese would print up yuan on their printer – this caused inflation IN CHINA because the only new currency created in this scenario was yuan (ie, we exported our inflation to China)
After wed, the US Treasury will print US Treasury bonds but the buyer of the bonds (at least $300 billion worth) will be the US Federal Reserve (which is neither federal nor has any reserves) – in this scenario we are creating US dollars to buy US bonds so the US money supply is immediately inflated by the amount of money printed
Here’s another way of looking at the new monetary arrangement: I have two printers in my basement – I’m going to print US dollars on one of the printers and US bonds on the other – once the ink has dried I’ll take the US bonds and place them in my vault as an asset and I’ll go spend the printed money as I see fit (in the media they are describing this process as the “Fed expanding their portfolio”)
Please explain to me how we can have any type of healthy economy based on the output from two printers
March 22, 2009 at 5:09 AM #3714914plexowner
Participant“We’ve crossed the Rubicon”
If we hadn’t crossed it already, we certainly did so wednesday
On Wed the USA announced to the world that they would start directly monetizing their own debt – this is the most inflationary step that can be taken in any monetary system
Let’s simplify the scenario so we can all understand
Prior to wed, the US Treasury dept would create US Treasury bonds to sell on the open market – these pieces of paper were then sold to anyone who wanted them, primarily the Chinese for the last few years
In order to buy our bonds, the Chinese would print up yuan on their printer – this caused inflation IN CHINA because the only new currency created in this scenario was yuan (ie, we exported our inflation to China)
After wed, the US Treasury will print US Treasury bonds but the buyer of the bonds (at least $300 billion worth) will be the US Federal Reserve (which is neither federal nor has any reserves) – in this scenario we are creating US dollars to buy US bonds so the US money supply is immediately inflated by the amount of money printed
Here’s another way of looking at the new monetary arrangement: I have two printers in my basement – I’m going to print US dollars on one of the printers and US bonds on the other – once the ink has dried I’ll take the US bonds and place them in my vault as an asset and I’ll go spend the printed money as I see fit (in the media they are describing this process as the “Fed expanding their portfolio”)
Please explain to me how we can have any type of healthy economy based on the output from two printers
March 22, 2009 at 5:09 AM #3716614plexowner
Participant“We’ve crossed the Rubicon”
If we hadn’t crossed it already, we certainly did so wednesday
On Wed the USA announced to the world that they would start directly monetizing their own debt – this is the most inflationary step that can be taken in any monetary system
Let’s simplify the scenario so we can all understand
Prior to wed, the US Treasury dept would create US Treasury bonds to sell on the open market – these pieces of paper were then sold to anyone who wanted them, primarily the Chinese for the last few years
In order to buy our bonds, the Chinese would print up yuan on their printer – this caused inflation IN CHINA because the only new currency created in this scenario was yuan (ie, we exported our inflation to China)
After wed, the US Treasury will print US Treasury bonds but the buyer of the bonds (at least $300 billion worth) will be the US Federal Reserve (which is neither federal nor has any reserves) – in this scenario we are creating US dollars to buy US bonds so the US money supply is immediately inflated by the amount of money printed
Here’s another way of looking at the new monetary arrangement: I have two printers in my basement – I’m going to print US dollars on one of the printers and US bonds on the other – once the ink has dried I’ll take the US bonds and place them in my vault as an asset and I’ll go spend the printed money as I see fit (in the media they are describing this process as the “Fed expanding their portfolio”)
Please explain to me how we can have any type of healthy economy based on the output from two printers
March 22, 2009 at 5:09 AM #3717044plexowner
Participant“We’ve crossed the Rubicon”
If we hadn’t crossed it already, we certainly did so wednesday
On Wed the USA announced to the world that they would start directly monetizing their own debt – this is the most inflationary step that can be taken in any monetary system
Let’s simplify the scenario so we can all understand
Prior to wed, the US Treasury dept would create US Treasury bonds to sell on the open market – these pieces of paper were then sold to anyone who wanted them, primarily the Chinese for the last few years
In order to buy our bonds, the Chinese would print up yuan on their printer – this caused inflation IN CHINA because the only new currency created in this scenario was yuan (ie, we exported our inflation to China)
After wed, the US Treasury will print US Treasury bonds but the buyer of the bonds (at least $300 billion worth) will be the US Federal Reserve (which is neither federal nor has any reserves) – in this scenario we are creating US dollars to buy US bonds so the US money supply is immediately inflated by the amount of money printed
Here’s another way of looking at the new monetary arrangement: I have two printers in my basement – I’m going to print US dollars on one of the printers and US bonds on the other – once the ink has dried I’ll take the US bonds and place them in my vault as an asset and I’ll go spend the printed money as I see fit (in the media they are describing this process as the “Fed expanding their portfolio”)
Please explain to me how we can have any type of healthy economy based on the output from two printers
March 22, 2009 at 5:09 AM #3718174plexowner
Participant“We’ve crossed the Rubicon”
If we hadn’t crossed it already, we certainly did so wednesday
On Wed the USA announced to the world that they would start directly monetizing their own debt – this is the most inflationary step that can be taken in any monetary system
Let’s simplify the scenario so we can all understand
Prior to wed, the US Treasury dept would create US Treasury bonds to sell on the open market – these pieces of paper were then sold to anyone who wanted them, primarily the Chinese for the last few years
In order to buy our bonds, the Chinese would print up yuan on their printer – this caused inflation IN CHINA because the only new currency created in this scenario was yuan (ie, we exported our inflation to China)
After wed, the US Treasury will print US Treasury bonds but the buyer of the bonds (at least $300 billion worth) will be the US Federal Reserve (which is neither federal nor has any reserves) – in this scenario we are creating US dollars to buy US bonds so the US money supply is immediately inflated by the amount of money printed
Here’s another way of looking at the new monetary arrangement: I have two printers in my basement – I’m going to print US dollars on one of the printers and US bonds on the other – once the ink has dried I’ll take the US bonds and place them in my vault as an asset and I’ll go spend the printed money as I see fit (in the media they are describing this process as the “Fed expanding their portfolio”)
Please explain to me how we can have any type of healthy economy based on the output from two printers
March 22, 2009 at 7:11 AM #371208nostradamus
ParticipantYup 4plex thar be inflation. How long do you think it will be until we see an affect on prices of consumer goods and services?
March 22, 2009 at 7:11 AM #371496nostradamus
ParticipantYup 4plex thar be inflation. How long do you think it will be until we see an affect on prices of consumer goods and services?
March 22, 2009 at 7:11 AM #371666nostradamus
ParticipantYup 4plex thar be inflation. How long do you think it will be until we see an affect on prices of consumer goods and services?
March 22, 2009 at 7:11 AM #371709nostradamus
ParticipantYup 4plex thar be inflation. How long do you think it will be until we see an affect on prices of consumer goods and services?
March 22, 2009 at 7:11 AM #371822nostradamus
ParticipantYup 4plex thar be inflation. How long do you think it will be until we see an affect on prices of consumer goods and services?
March 22, 2009 at 8:01 AM #3712134plexowner
ParticipantI’ve never looked into the lag times on inflation feeding into the economy
our current situation is complicated by a declining economy and rising unemployment – how do people accommodate inflation in consumer goods and services at the same time they are losing their jobs and their wealth (stocks and real estate)? – do these factors increase the lag time on inflation? – do these factors prevent the inflation from occurring at all? – at some point prices can’t go higher because demand drops to zero?
these issues are, in part, why the fringe media is talking about “the summer from hell” this year as people finally boil over at the loss of half of their wealth (checked your 401K statement lately?) and any prospects of retirement while Wall Street and politicos continue their usual games of obscenely enriching themselves at the taxpayers’ expense
the leading edge of the summer from hell started in Iceland when their economy collapsed and has continued in other countries where the citizens are protesting against the results of the prevailing economic system – France is the latest country dealing with this trend
March 22, 2009 at 8:01 AM #3715014plexowner
ParticipantI’ve never looked into the lag times on inflation feeding into the economy
our current situation is complicated by a declining economy and rising unemployment – how do people accommodate inflation in consumer goods and services at the same time they are losing their jobs and their wealth (stocks and real estate)? – do these factors increase the lag time on inflation? – do these factors prevent the inflation from occurring at all? – at some point prices can’t go higher because demand drops to zero?
these issues are, in part, why the fringe media is talking about “the summer from hell” this year as people finally boil over at the loss of half of their wealth (checked your 401K statement lately?) and any prospects of retirement while Wall Street and politicos continue their usual games of obscenely enriching themselves at the taxpayers’ expense
the leading edge of the summer from hell started in Iceland when their economy collapsed and has continued in other countries where the citizens are protesting against the results of the prevailing economic system – France is the latest country dealing with this trend
March 22, 2009 at 8:01 AM #3716714plexowner
ParticipantI’ve never looked into the lag times on inflation feeding into the economy
our current situation is complicated by a declining economy and rising unemployment – how do people accommodate inflation in consumer goods and services at the same time they are losing their jobs and their wealth (stocks and real estate)? – do these factors increase the lag time on inflation? – do these factors prevent the inflation from occurring at all? – at some point prices can’t go higher because demand drops to zero?
these issues are, in part, why the fringe media is talking about “the summer from hell” this year as people finally boil over at the loss of half of their wealth (checked your 401K statement lately?) and any prospects of retirement while Wall Street and politicos continue their usual games of obscenely enriching themselves at the taxpayers’ expense
the leading edge of the summer from hell started in Iceland when their economy collapsed and has continued in other countries where the citizens are protesting against the results of the prevailing economic system – France is the latest country dealing with this trend
March 22, 2009 at 8:01 AM #3717154plexowner
ParticipantI’ve never looked into the lag times on inflation feeding into the economy
our current situation is complicated by a declining economy and rising unemployment – how do people accommodate inflation in consumer goods and services at the same time they are losing their jobs and their wealth (stocks and real estate)? – do these factors increase the lag time on inflation? – do these factors prevent the inflation from occurring at all? – at some point prices can’t go higher because demand drops to zero?
these issues are, in part, why the fringe media is talking about “the summer from hell” this year as people finally boil over at the loss of half of their wealth (checked your 401K statement lately?) and any prospects of retirement while Wall Street and politicos continue their usual games of obscenely enriching themselves at the taxpayers’ expense
the leading edge of the summer from hell started in Iceland when their economy collapsed and has continued in other countries where the citizens are protesting against the results of the prevailing economic system – France is the latest country dealing with this trend
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