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May 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM #548588May 7, 2010 at 12:09 PM #547633
Coronita
Participant[quote=Aecetia]Good post flu. What’s wrong with learning Chinese.[/quote]
Nothing, but again, at a PUBLIC school any sort of additional cultural thing should be
1) VOLUNTARY
2) Does not interfere with day to day activity for folks that do not wish to participate.
3) paid by public dollars only AFTER there is enough dollars going into normal school programs OR paid by donations from someone (preferably not a foreign government with strings attached)So,
*The issue with the CV language program was #1.
*The issue with the May 5 celebration in the school with the old navy flag tshirt controversy was #2
*And a general problem with public schools in CA is #3.QED.
May 7, 2010 at 12:09 PM #547744Coronita
Participant[quote=Aecetia]Good post flu. What’s wrong with learning Chinese.[/quote]
Nothing, but again, at a PUBLIC school any sort of additional cultural thing should be
1) VOLUNTARY
2) Does not interfere with day to day activity for folks that do not wish to participate.
3) paid by public dollars only AFTER there is enough dollars going into normal school programs OR paid by donations from someone (preferably not a foreign government with strings attached)So,
*The issue with the CV language program was #1.
*The issue with the May 5 celebration in the school with the old navy flag tshirt controversy was #2
*And a general problem with public schools in CA is #3.QED.
May 7, 2010 at 12:09 PM #548227Coronita
Participant[quote=Aecetia]Good post flu. What’s wrong with learning Chinese.[/quote]
Nothing, but again, at a PUBLIC school any sort of additional cultural thing should be
1) VOLUNTARY
2) Does not interfere with day to day activity for folks that do not wish to participate.
3) paid by public dollars only AFTER there is enough dollars going into normal school programs OR paid by donations from someone (preferably not a foreign government with strings attached)So,
*The issue with the CV language program was #1.
*The issue with the May 5 celebration in the school with the old navy flag tshirt controversy was #2
*And a general problem with public schools in CA is #3.QED.
May 7, 2010 at 12:09 PM #548325Coronita
Participant[quote=Aecetia]Good post flu. What’s wrong with learning Chinese.[/quote]
Nothing, but again, at a PUBLIC school any sort of additional cultural thing should be
1) VOLUNTARY
2) Does not interfere with day to day activity for folks that do not wish to participate.
3) paid by public dollars only AFTER there is enough dollars going into normal school programs OR paid by donations from someone (preferably not a foreign government with strings attached)So,
*The issue with the CV language program was #1.
*The issue with the May 5 celebration in the school with the old navy flag tshirt controversy was #2
*And a general problem with public schools in CA is #3.QED.
May 7, 2010 at 12:09 PM #548598Coronita
Participant[quote=Aecetia]Good post flu. What’s wrong with learning Chinese.[/quote]
Nothing, but again, at a PUBLIC school any sort of additional cultural thing should be
1) VOLUNTARY
2) Does not interfere with day to day activity for folks that do not wish to participate.
3) paid by public dollars only AFTER there is enough dollars going into normal school programs OR paid by donations from someone (preferably not a foreign government with strings attached)So,
*The issue with the CV language program was #1.
*The issue with the May 5 celebration in the school with the old navy flag tshirt controversy was #2
*And a general problem with public schools in CA is #3.QED.
May 7, 2010 at 12:12 PM #547628sdduuuude
Participant[quote=eavesdropper][quote=sdduuuude]The word “tolerance” is bandied about regularly these days.
Clearly those who are insulted by a USA t-shirt on any day have the lowest levels of tolerance imaginable and are just looking for a fight where none exists. To me, that is the real problem. The administrator gave-in to the wrong side here, for sure.
How about telling everyone that whoever starts a fight over a shirt is going to jail?
Perhaps they did wear the USA shirts to get under the others’ skin. Really? A red/white/blue shirt is going to get under their skin? Is it too much to ask that you just deal with the other guy’s shirt? Is it so hard? Imagine the stories they’ll tell their children about the persecution “Yeah. and this one guy wore a shirt with a flag on it. It was hell, man. Hell. So I threatened to beat him up.”
It’s just stupid.[/quote]
sdduuuude, your post appears to be a reaction to what I wrote earlier. [/quote]
No. It is a reaction to the event, though I was agreeing that the kids could have worn those shirts just to be assholes. But, they have every right to. For me, this is still about the administrator unable to control the violent behavior of some kids, so he controls the clothing of more passive kids.
May 7, 2010 at 12:12 PM #547739sdduuuude
Participant[quote=eavesdropper][quote=sdduuuude]The word “tolerance” is bandied about regularly these days.
Clearly those who are insulted by a USA t-shirt on any day have the lowest levels of tolerance imaginable and are just looking for a fight where none exists. To me, that is the real problem. The administrator gave-in to the wrong side here, for sure.
How about telling everyone that whoever starts a fight over a shirt is going to jail?
Perhaps they did wear the USA shirts to get under the others’ skin. Really? A red/white/blue shirt is going to get under their skin? Is it too much to ask that you just deal with the other guy’s shirt? Is it so hard? Imagine the stories they’ll tell their children about the persecution “Yeah. and this one guy wore a shirt with a flag on it. It was hell, man. Hell. So I threatened to beat him up.”
It’s just stupid.[/quote]
sdduuuude, your post appears to be a reaction to what I wrote earlier. [/quote]
No. It is a reaction to the event, though I was agreeing that the kids could have worn those shirts just to be assholes. But, they have every right to. For me, this is still about the administrator unable to control the violent behavior of some kids, so he controls the clothing of more passive kids.
May 7, 2010 at 12:12 PM #548222sdduuuude
Participant[quote=eavesdropper][quote=sdduuuude]The word “tolerance” is bandied about regularly these days.
Clearly those who are insulted by a USA t-shirt on any day have the lowest levels of tolerance imaginable and are just looking for a fight where none exists. To me, that is the real problem. The administrator gave-in to the wrong side here, for sure.
How about telling everyone that whoever starts a fight over a shirt is going to jail?
Perhaps they did wear the USA shirts to get under the others’ skin. Really? A red/white/blue shirt is going to get under their skin? Is it too much to ask that you just deal with the other guy’s shirt? Is it so hard? Imagine the stories they’ll tell their children about the persecution “Yeah. and this one guy wore a shirt with a flag on it. It was hell, man. Hell. So I threatened to beat him up.”
It’s just stupid.[/quote]
sdduuuude, your post appears to be a reaction to what I wrote earlier. [/quote]
No. It is a reaction to the event, though I was agreeing that the kids could have worn those shirts just to be assholes. But, they have every right to. For me, this is still about the administrator unable to control the violent behavior of some kids, so he controls the clothing of more passive kids.
May 7, 2010 at 12:12 PM #548320sdduuuude
Participant[quote=eavesdropper][quote=sdduuuude]The word “tolerance” is bandied about regularly these days.
Clearly those who are insulted by a USA t-shirt on any day have the lowest levels of tolerance imaginable and are just looking for a fight where none exists. To me, that is the real problem. The administrator gave-in to the wrong side here, for sure.
How about telling everyone that whoever starts a fight over a shirt is going to jail?
Perhaps they did wear the USA shirts to get under the others’ skin. Really? A red/white/blue shirt is going to get under their skin? Is it too much to ask that you just deal with the other guy’s shirt? Is it so hard? Imagine the stories they’ll tell their children about the persecution “Yeah. and this one guy wore a shirt with a flag on it. It was hell, man. Hell. So I threatened to beat him up.”
It’s just stupid.[/quote]
sdduuuude, your post appears to be a reaction to what I wrote earlier. [/quote]
No. It is a reaction to the event, though I was agreeing that the kids could have worn those shirts just to be assholes. But, they have every right to. For me, this is still about the administrator unable to control the violent behavior of some kids, so he controls the clothing of more passive kids.
May 7, 2010 at 12:12 PM #548593sdduuuude
Participant[quote=eavesdropper][quote=sdduuuude]The word “tolerance” is bandied about regularly these days.
Clearly those who are insulted by a USA t-shirt on any day have the lowest levels of tolerance imaginable and are just looking for a fight where none exists. To me, that is the real problem. The administrator gave-in to the wrong side here, for sure.
How about telling everyone that whoever starts a fight over a shirt is going to jail?
Perhaps they did wear the USA shirts to get under the others’ skin. Really? A red/white/blue shirt is going to get under their skin? Is it too much to ask that you just deal with the other guy’s shirt? Is it so hard? Imagine the stories they’ll tell their children about the persecution “Yeah. and this one guy wore a shirt with a flag on it. It was hell, man. Hell. So I threatened to beat him up.”
It’s just stupid.[/quote]
sdduuuude, your post appears to be a reaction to what I wrote earlier. [/quote]
No. It is a reaction to the event, though I was agreeing that the kids could have worn those shirts just to be assholes. But, they have every right to. For me, this is still about the administrator unable to control the violent behavior of some kids, so he controls the clothing of more passive kids.
May 7, 2010 at 12:13 PM #547648sdduuuude
Participant[quote=eavesdropper]I sincerely hope that tomorrow’s headline reads “200 Live Oak students given 3-day detention for walking out of class”.[/quote]
HA! Yeah.
May 7, 2010 at 12:13 PM #547759sdduuuude
Participant[quote=eavesdropper]I sincerely hope that tomorrow’s headline reads “200 Live Oak students given 3-day detention for walking out of class”.[/quote]
HA! Yeah.
May 7, 2010 at 12:13 PM #548242sdduuuude
Participant[quote=eavesdropper]I sincerely hope that tomorrow’s headline reads “200 Live Oak students given 3-day detention for walking out of class”.[/quote]
HA! Yeah.
May 7, 2010 at 12:13 PM #548340sdduuuude
Participant[quote=eavesdropper]I sincerely hope that tomorrow’s headline reads “200 Live Oak students given 3-day detention for walking out of class”.[/quote]
HA! Yeah.
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