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December 11, 2007 at 6:04 PM #114749December 11, 2007 at 6:06 PM #114561condogrrlParticipant
Nost, I’m out of this thing. I wish you and Marion many happy years together. Now where did I put that library book?
December 11, 2007 at 6:06 PM #114685condogrrlParticipantNost, I’m out of this thing. I wish you and Marion many happy years together. Now where did I put that library book?
December 11, 2007 at 6:06 PM #114722condogrrlParticipantNost, I’m out of this thing. I wish you and Marion many happy years together. Now where did I put that library book?
December 11, 2007 at 6:06 PM #114728condogrrlParticipantNost, I’m out of this thing. I wish you and Marion many happy years together. Now where did I put that library book?
December 11, 2007 at 6:06 PM #114764condogrrlParticipantNost, I’m out of this thing. I wish you and Marion many happy years together. Now where did I put that library book?
December 11, 2007 at 6:07 PM #114554NotCrankyParticipantI’m now wondering if chivalry is dead…;)
Yes that is a joke. However this thread begs the question. Was the cultural revolution known as feminism, not supposed to have some effect on masculinism? I agree with the evolutionists on this thread but not to the extent to say cultural mores don’t change or even need to be adapted for couples to thrive. Perhaps that should say individual takes on cultural mores might need to adapt,not superficially. Speaking of books, some suggested reading, Warren Farrell and Shere Hite just to look at different views on the same topic. I think it was Warren Farrell,that was a long time ago. I’ll go check and fix it if it is wrong.
December 11, 2007 at 6:07 PM #114675NotCrankyParticipantI’m now wondering if chivalry is dead…;)
Yes that is a joke. However this thread begs the question. Was the cultural revolution known as feminism, not supposed to have some effect on masculinism? I agree with the evolutionists on this thread but not to the extent to say cultural mores don’t change or even need to be adapted for couples to thrive. Perhaps that should say individual takes on cultural mores might need to adapt,not superficially. Speaking of books, some suggested reading, Warren Farrell and Shere Hite just to look at different views on the same topic. I think it was Warren Farrell,that was a long time ago. I’ll go check and fix it if it is wrong.
December 11, 2007 at 6:07 PM #114712NotCrankyParticipantI’m now wondering if chivalry is dead…;)
Yes that is a joke. However this thread begs the question. Was the cultural revolution known as feminism, not supposed to have some effect on masculinism? I agree with the evolutionists on this thread but not to the extent to say cultural mores don’t change or even need to be adapted for couples to thrive. Perhaps that should say individual takes on cultural mores might need to adapt,not superficially. Speaking of books, some suggested reading, Warren Farrell and Shere Hite just to look at different views on the same topic. I think it was Warren Farrell,that was a long time ago. I’ll go check and fix it if it is wrong.
December 11, 2007 at 6:07 PM #114718NotCrankyParticipantI’m now wondering if chivalry is dead…;)
Yes that is a joke. However this thread begs the question. Was the cultural revolution known as feminism, not supposed to have some effect on masculinism? I agree with the evolutionists on this thread but not to the extent to say cultural mores don’t change or even need to be adapted for couples to thrive. Perhaps that should say individual takes on cultural mores might need to adapt,not superficially. Speaking of books, some suggested reading, Warren Farrell and Shere Hite just to look at different views on the same topic. I think it was Warren Farrell,that was a long time ago. I’ll go check and fix it if it is wrong.
December 11, 2007 at 6:07 PM #114754NotCrankyParticipantI’m now wondering if chivalry is dead…;)
Yes that is a joke. However this thread begs the question. Was the cultural revolution known as feminism, not supposed to have some effect on masculinism? I agree with the evolutionists on this thread but not to the extent to say cultural mores don’t change or even need to be adapted for couples to thrive. Perhaps that should say individual takes on cultural mores might need to adapt,not superficially. Speaking of books, some suggested reading, Warren Farrell and Shere Hite just to look at different views on the same topic. I think it was Warren Farrell,that was a long time ago. I’ll go check and fix it if it is wrong.
December 11, 2007 at 6:41 PM #114576AnonymousGuestmeadandale: “Any woman that tells me that I have to spend money on her to show her that I care is being shown the door. How about I bring you breakfast in bed? Hide silly greeting cards in your purse to surprise you? Care for you when you are sick? Seems that those types of behaviors are more of a display of love and romance than buying you an expensive dinner.”
Ok, I really don’t see why I was thrown in the lion’s den. Yes, mead, you can bring me breakfast in bed…then take me out to a nice restaurant. π
Seriously guys, I did state I wanted a nice date from this guy up front (near the beginning). I also believe I stated that when I’m dating someone, I don’t expect the man to pay all the time. Our expenses on eating out and vacations should and will be shared.
Maybe I had a tone of “entitlement” maybe that pissed some of you off. In any event, I do expect the guy to take me out somewhere nice when we start dating and that’s the way I am. I can be both old-fashioned and self-reliant. Some of you won’t agree, but it doesn’t mean I’m a gold-digger.
Nostr, more to you later on the Japanese dishes.
edited to add: nice doesn’t equate to expensive. Reasonably priced is fine with me, I said that too. And by upfront, I mean not the first date, but after we see each other a couple of times and decide we like each other enough to continue dating. He won’t pay all the time, I won’t pay all the time. We share costs. That’s what I meant.
December 11, 2007 at 6:41 PM #114700AnonymousGuestmeadandale: “Any woman that tells me that I have to spend money on her to show her that I care is being shown the door. How about I bring you breakfast in bed? Hide silly greeting cards in your purse to surprise you? Care for you when you are sick? Seems that those types of behaviors are more of a display of love and romance than buying you an expensive dinner.”
Ok, I really don’t see why I was thrown in the lion’s den. Yes, mead, you can bring me breakfast in bed…then take me out to a nice restaurant. π
Seriously guys, I did state I wanted a nice date from this guy up front (near the beginning). I also believe I stated that when I’m dating someone, I don’t expect the man to pay all the time. Our expenses on eating out and vacations should and will be shared.
Maybe I had a tone of “entitlement” maybe that pissed some of you off. In any event, I do expect the guy to take me out somewhere nice when we start dating and that’s the way I am. I can be both old-fashioned and self-reliant. Some of you won’t agree, but it doesn’t mean I’m a gold-digger.
Nostr, more to you later on the Japanese dishes.
edited to add: nice doesn’t equate to expensive. Reasonably priced is fine with me, I said that too. And by upfront, I mean not the first date, but after we see each other a couple of times and decide we like each other enough to continue dating. He won’t pay all the time, I won’t pay all the time. We share costs. That’s what I meant.
December 11, 2007 at 6:41 PM #114737AnonymousGuestmeadandale: “Any woman that tells me that I have to spend money on her to show her that I care is being shown the door. How about I bring you breakfast in bed? Hide silly greeting cards in your purse to surprise you? Care for you when you are sick? Seems that those types of behaviors are more of a display of love and romance than buying you an expensive dinner.”
Ok, I really don’t see why I was thrown in the lion’s den. Yes, mead, you can bring me breakfast in bed…then take me out to a nice restaurant. π
Seriously guys, I did state I wanted a nice date from this guy up front (near the beginning). I also believe I stated that when I’m dating someone, I don’t expect the man to pay all the time. Our expenses on eating out and vacations should and will be shared.
Maybe I had a tone of “entitlement” maybe that pissed some of you off. In any event, I do expect the guy to take me out somewhere nice when we start dating and that’s the way I am. I can be both old-fashioned and self-reliant. Some of you won’t agree, but it doesn’t mean I’m a gold-digger.
Nostr, more to you later on the Japanese dishes.
edited to add: nice doesn’t equate to expensive. Reasonably priced is fine with me, I said that too. And by upfront, I mean not the first date, but after we see each other a couple of times and decide we like each other enough to continue dating. He won’t pay all the time, I won’t pay all the time. We share costs. That’s what I meant.
December 11, 2007 at 6:41 PM #114743AnonymousGuestmeadandale: “Any woman that tells me that I have to spend money on her to show her that I care is being shown the door. How about I bring you breakfast in bed? Hide silly greeting cards in your purse to surprise you? Care for you when you are sick? Seems that those types of behaviors are more of a display of love and romance than buying you an expensive dinner.”
Ok, I really don’t see why I was thrown in the lion’s den. Yes, mead, you can bring me breakfast in bed…then take me out to a nice restaurant. π
Seriously guys, I did state I wanted a nice date from this guy up front (near the beginning). I also believe I stated that when I’m dating someone, I don’t expect the man to pay all the time. Our expenses on eating out and vacations should and will be shared.
Maybe I had a tone of “entitlement” maybe that pissed some of you off. In any event, I do expect the guy to take me out somewhere nice when we start dating and that’s the way I am. I can be both old-fashioned and self-reliant. Some of you won’t agree, but it doesn’t mean I’m a gold-digger.
Nostr, more to you later on the Japanese dishes.
edited to add: nice doesn’t equate to expensive. Reasonably priced is fine with me, I said that too. And by upfront, I mean not the first date, but after we see each other a couple of times and decide we like each other enough to continue dating. He won’t pay all the time, I won’t pay all the time. We share costs. That’s what I meant.
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