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September 22, 2010 at 11:40 AM #608994September 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM #608063
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Participant[quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude][quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude]
Who has the friggin right to tell me what car I can drive and how much gas I can put in it? Furthermore – how much money would we spend enforcing a regulation like this?
[/quote]Is your right to individual irresponsibility more important than the basic needs of our grandchildren?[/quote]
Yes – absolutely, it is. It is not only my right. It is everyone’s. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is unalienable.
[quote=justme]We already have burned way too much of the world’s precious oil reserves.[/quote]
Again – this is your opinion. What is “too much” ? Who is to say? Certainly not you. You don’t have the right to dictate how much is too much. Who are you, the King of America or something ?[/quote]
What is this nonsense that my opinion is “just an opinion” but that your opinion is an “unalienable right”. This is just libertarian bullcrap.
And you haven’t answered my question: Does my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness give me the right to saddle your grandchildren with a monetary deficit?
If NOT, how come you have the right to saddle future generations with an energy deficit?[/quote]
Both of our opinions are just opinions. You, however, wish to control other people’s decisions for them. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when you force people to behave a certain way because, in your opinion, you don’t like it, you are violating rights. That is the difference.
I guess the US Constitution is just Libertarian bullcrap, then.
Yes, your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness gives you the right to take on as much debt as someone will lend you. Not sure how that leaves MY grandchildren a monetary deficit. If it somehow does, though, then so be it.
At some point, we are going to run out of oil. Thus at least one generation is going to leave their children w/ an energy deficit. Not sure how either regulations or a free market will prevent this one. Maybe running out of oil sooner will be better – how do you know ? You don’t.
September 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM #608149Participant[quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude][quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude]
Who has the friggin right to tell me what car I can drive and how much gas I can put in it? Furthermore – how much money would we spend enforcing a regulation like this?
[/quote]Is your right to individual irresponsibility more important than the basic needs of our grandchildren?[/quote]
Yes – absolutely, it is. It is not only my right. It is everyone’s. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is unalienable.
[quote=justme]We already have burned way too much of the world’s precious oil reserves.[/quote]
Again – this is your opinion. What is “too much” ? Who is to say? Certainly not you. You don’t have the right to dictate how much is too much. Who are you, the King of America or something ?[/quote]
What is this nonsense that my opinion is “just an opinion” but that your opinion is an “unalienable right”. This is just libertarian bullcrap.
And you haven’t answered my question: Does my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness give me the right to saddle your grandchildren with a monetary deficit?
If NOT, how come you have the right to saddle future generations with an energy deficit?[/quote]
Both of our opinions are just opinions. You, however, wish to control other people’s decisions for them. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when you force people to behave a certain way because, in your opinion, you don’t like it, you are violating rights. That is the difference.
I guess the US Constitution is just Libertarian bullcrap, then.
Yes, your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness gives you the right to take on as much debt as someone will lend you. Not sure how that leaves MY grandchildren a monetary deficit. If it somehow does, though, then so be it.
At some point, we are going to run out of oil. Thus at least one generation is going to leave their children w/ an energy deficit. Not sure how either regulations or a free market will prevent this one. Maybe running out of oil sooner will be better – how do you know ? You don’t.
September 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM #608702Participant[quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude][quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude]
Who has the friggin right to tell me what car I can drive and how much gas I can put in it? Furthermore – how much money would we spend enforcing a regulation like this?
[/quote]Is your right to individual irresponsibility more important than the basic needs of our grandchildren?[/quote]
Yes – absolutely, it is. It is not only my right. It is everyone’s. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is unalienable.
[quote=justme]We already have burned way too much of the world’s precious oil reserves.[/quote]
Again – this is your opinion. What is “too much” ? Who is to say? Certainly not you. You don’t have the right to dictate how much is too much. Who are you, the King of America or something ?[/quote]
What is this nonsense that my opinion is “just an opinion” but that your opinion is an “unalienable right”. This is just libertarian bullcrap.
And you haven’t answered my question: Does my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness give me the right to saddle your grandchildren with a monetary deficit?
If NOT, how come you have the right to saddle future generations with an energy deficit?[/quote]
Both of our opinions are just opinions. You, however, wish to control other people’s decisions for them. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when you force people to behave a certain way because, in your opinion, you don’t like it, you are violating rights. That is the difference.
I guess the US Constitution is just Libertarian bullcrap, then.
Yes, your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness gives you the right to take on as much debt as someone will lend you. Not sure how that leaves MY grandchildren a monetary deficit. If it somehow does, though, then so be it.
At some point, we are going to run out of oil. Thus at least one generation is going to leave their children w/ an energy deficit. Not sure how either regulations or a free market will prevent this one. Maybe running out of oil sooner will be better – how do you know ? You don’t.
September 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM #608812Participant[quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude][quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude]
Who has the friggin right to tell me what car I can drive and how much gas I can put in it? Furthermore – how much money would we spend enforcing a regulation like this?
[/quote]Is your right to individual irresponsibility more important than the basic needs of our grandchildren?[/quote]
Yes – absolutely, it is. It is not only my right. It is everyone’s. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is unalienable.
[quote=justme]We already have burned way too much of the world’s precious oil reserves.[/quote]
Again – this is your opinion. What is “too much” ? Who is to say? Certainly not you. You don’t have the right to dictate how much is too much. Who are you, the King of America or something ?[/quote]
What is this nonsense that my opinion is “just an opinion” but that your opinion is an “unalienable right”. This is just libertarian bullcrap.
And you haven’t answered my question: Does my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness give me the right to saddle your grandchildren with a monetary deficit?
If NOT, how come you have the right to saddle future generations with an energy deficit?[/quote]
Both of our opinions are just opinions. You, however, wish to control other people’s decisions for them. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when you force people to behave a certain way because, in your opinion, you don’t like it, you are violating rights. That is the difference.
I guess the US Constitution is just Libertarian bullcrap, then.
Yes, your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness gives you the right to take on as much debt as someone will lend you. Not sure how that leaves MY grandchildren a monetary deficit. If it somehow does, though, then so be it.
At some point, we are going to run out of oil. Thus at least one generation is going to leave their children w/ an energy deficit. Not sure how either regulations or a free market will prevent this one. Maybe running out of oil sooner will be better – how do you know ? You don’t.
September 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM #609129Participant[quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude][quote=justme][quote=sdduuuude]
Who has the friggin right to tell me what car I can drive and how much gas I can put in it? Furthermore – how much money would we spend enforcing a regulation like this?
[/quote]Is your right to individual irresponsibility more important than the basic needs of our grandchildren?[/quote]
Yes – absolutely, it is. It is not only my right. It is everyone’s. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is unalienable.
[quote=justme]We already have burned way too much of the world’s precious oil reserves.[/quote]
Again – this is your opinion. What is “too much” ? Who is to say? Certainly not you. You don’t have the right to dictate how much is too much. Who are you, the King of America or something ?[/quote]
What is this nonsense that my opinion is “just an opinion” but that your opinion is an “unalienable right”. This is just libertarian bullcrap.
And you haven’t answered my question: Does my right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness give me the right to saddle your grandchildren with a monetary deficit?
If NOT, how come you have the right to saddle future generations with an energy deficit?[/quote]
Both of our opinions are just opinions. You, however, wish to control other people’s decisions for them. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when you force people to behave a certain way because, in your opinion, you don’t like it, you are violating rights. That is the difference.
I guess the US Constitution is just Libertarian bullcrap, then.
Yes, your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness gives you the right to take on as much debt as someone will lend you. Not sure how that leaves MY grandchildren a monetary deficit. If it somehow does, though, then so be it.
At some point, we are going to run out of oil. Thus at least one generation is going to leave their children w/ an energy deficit. Not sure how either regulations or a free market will prevent this one. Maybe running out of oil sooner will be better – how do you know ? You don’t.
September 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM #608083ParticipantOur mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.
September 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM #608169ParticipantOur mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.
September 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM #608722ParticipantOur mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.
September 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM #608832ParticipantOur mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.
September 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM #609150ParticipantOur mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.
September 22, 2010 at 3:38 PM #608168justme
Participant[quote=sdduuuude]Our mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.[/quote]
So we have established the double standard that you have:
Monetary deficits are bad, energy deficits are not a problem.
In the end, your grandchildrens lives will be me much worse off from the energy deficit. All hail your special brand of personal freedom.
September 22, 2010 at 3:38 PM #608254Participant[quote=sdduuuude]Our mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.[/quote]
So we have established the double standard that you have:
Monetary deficits are bad, energy deficits are not a problem.
In the end, your grandchildrens lives will be me much worse off from the energy deficit. All hail your special brand of personal freedom.
September 22, 2010 at 3:38 PM #608808Participant[quote=sdduuuude]Our mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.[/quote]
So we have established the double standard that you have:
Monetary deficits are bad, energy deficits are not a problem.
In the end, your grandchildrens lives will be me much worse off from the energy deficit. All hail your special brand of personal freedom.
September 22, 2010 at 3:38 PM #608917Participant[quote=sdduuuude]Our mutual rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness don’t, however, give the government the right to borrow money, spend it on stupid crap, then come after us and our grandchildren to pay it back.
In fact those very rights should prevent them from doing just that. Sadly, the constitution seems to no longer hold them back.
It is neither my borrowing, nor yours that will saddle future generations with massive debt. It is the government’s.[/quote]
So we have established the double standard that you have:
Monetary deficits are bad, energy deficits are not a problem.
In the end, your grandchildrens lives will be me much worse off from the energy deficit. All hail your special brand of personal freedom.
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