4S ranch–Pienza Jan release

[Aecetia]

Deleted by the author for the good of the cause.

[Aecetia]

Deleted by the author for the good of the cause.

[Aecetia]

Deleted by the author for the good of the cause.

[Aecetia]

Deleted by the author for the good of the cause.

[NewtoSanDiego]

You have still failed to convince me.

I’m in the business of assessing risk and I view living in a High wildfire risk area as inherently risky. No way around it.

You can certainly improve your odds of surviving by having a well constructed fire resistant houses, a sprinkler system, a well defended perimeter area, perhaps some foam fire retardant and a good family emergency plan.

During recent wildfires, how many of your neighbors stayed in their houses and stuck it out during the mandatory evacuations?

I bet not too many. If I saw a wall of flames approaching I too would run like mad, screw the Shelter-in-place!

To improve the fire safety of 4S, the road access and exits have to be improved, and widened.

FACT: DURING THE LAST WILDFIRE, THE EXITS OUT OF 4S AND ALL SURROUNDING ROADS WERE CLOGGED WITH FLEEING FAMILIES!!!
IF THE WILDFIRES HAD OVERTAKEN THESE EXITS WE WOULD HAVE SEEN A MAJOR CATASTROPHE!

[NewtoSanDiego]

You have still failed to convince me.

I’m in the business of assessing risk and I view living in a High wildfire risk area as inherently risky. No way around it.

You can certainly improve your odds of surviving by having a well constructed fire resistant houses, a sprinkler system, a well defended perimeter area, perhaps some foam fire retardant and a good family emergency plan.

During recent wildfires, how many of your neighbors stayed in their houses and stuck it out during the mandatory evacuations?

I bet not too many. If I saw a wall of flames approaching I too would run like mad, screw the Shelter-in-place!

To improve the fire safety of 4S, the road access and exits have to be improved, and widened.

FACT: DURING THE LAST WILDFIRE, THE EXITS OUT OF 4S AND ALL SURROUNDING ROADS WERE CLOGGED WITH FLEEING FAMILIES!!!
IF THE WILDFIRES HAD OVERTAKEN THESE EXITS WE WOULD HAVE SEEN A MAJOR CATASTROPHE!

[NewtoSanDiego]

You have still failed to convince me.

I’m in the business of assessing risk and I view living in a High wildfire risk area as inherently risky. No way around it.

You can certainly improve your odds of surviving by having a well constructed fire resistant houses, a sprinkler system, a well defended perimeter area, perhaps some foam fire retardant and a good family emergency plan.

During recent wildfires, how many of your neighbors stayed in their houses and stuck it out during the mandatory evacuations?

I bet not too many. If I saw a wall of flames approaching I too would run like mad, screw the Shelter-in-place!

To improve the fire safety of 4S, the road access and exits have to be improved, and widened.

FACT: DURING THE LAST WILDFIRE, THE EXITS OUT OF 4S AND ALL SURROUNDING ROADS WERE CLOGGED WITH FLEEING FAMILIES!!!
IF THE WILDFIRES HAD OVERTAKEN THESE EXITS WE WOULD HAVE SEEN A MAJOR CATASTROPHE!

[NewtoSanDiego]

You have still failed to convince me.

I’m in the business of assessing risk and I view living in a High wildfire risk area as inherently risky. No way around it.

You can certainly improve your odds of surviving by having a well constructed fire resistant houses, a sprinkler system, a well defended perimeter area, perhaps some foam fire retardant and a good family emergency plan.

During recent wildfires, how many of your neighbors stayed in their houses and stuck it out during the mandatory evacuations?

I bet not too many. If I saw a wall of flames approaching I too would run like mad, screw the Shelter-in-place!

To improve the fire safety of 4S, the road access and exits have to be improved, and widened.

FACT: DURING THE LAST WILDFIRE, THE EXITS OUT OF 4S AND ALL SURROUNDING ROADS WERE CLOGGED WITH FLEEING FAMILIES!!!
IF THE WILDFIRES HAD OVERTAKEN THESE EXITS WE WOULD HAVE SEEN A MAJOR CATASTROPHE!

[NewtoSanDiego]

You have still failed to convince me.

I’m in the business of assessing risk and I view living in a High wildfire risk area as inherently risky. No way around it.

You can certainly improve your odds of surviving by having a well constructed fire resistant houses, a sprinkler system, a well defended perimeter area, perhaps some foam fire retardant and a good family emergency plan.

During recent wildfires, how many of your neighbors stayed in their houses and stuck it out during the mandatory evacuations?

I bet not too many. If I saw a wall of flames approaching I too would run like mad, screw the Shelter-in-place!

To improve the fire safety of 4S, the road access and exits have to be improved, and widened.

FACT: DURING THE LAST WILDFIRE, THE EXITS OUT OF 4S AND ALL SURROUNDING ROADS WERE CLOGGED WITH FLEEING FAMILIES!!!
IF THE WILDFIRES HAD OVERTAKEN THESE EXITS WE WOULD HAVE SEEN A MAJOR CATASTROPHE!

[4Sbuyer2002]

Aescetia,

“Deleted for the good of the cause???” Ahhh . . . your post, pre-deletion, affirmed most of what I said, spoke of how nice a community 4S was, stated that you enjoyed reading my posts and encouraged me to continue. You also commented on how shelter in place worked for you in the 2003 fires in which you did not evactuate. What exactly is the “cause” . . . which compels you to take back and delete your true feelings and thoughts???? That wouldn’t be a cause, shared by many PIGS, to bash and talk down (with half truths and outright falsehoods) at every opportunity areas like 4S would it???? Let me follow this. “Gee I want to live in a place like 4S” but, I can’t afford it (even at these reduced prices), so I will bash and bad mouth it either with a) the wistful hope that such bad mouthing will plummet the market to lows where I can afford to buy in the place I have bad mouthed and trashed up to date OR b). . . its just sour grapes. Which one 4 you?? “Good of the cause” . . . so shallow.

My original response to your original post (before you deleted it).

Well said. No structure on earth is immune to fire. My only point is that it is a complete misnomer that 4S and other modern well designed (in light of known fire risks) communities are “risky places to live” in terms of wildfire danger vis a vis other places in San Diego. 4S is better protected than most. No place is completely fireproof. The fires in Laguna Beach . . . (“live on the coast there is no fire danger there . . . .”) not exactly http://www.light-headed.com/asite/laguna/laguna_history/laguna_beach_fire.phpand Oakland (“live in established suburban/urban interior areas far from boundry between suburbia and wildland there is no fire danger there . . . .) not exactly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Hills_firestorm . . . attest to that. My point is 4S is safer than most and not at elevated risk from wildfires.

grateful owner . . . .

[4Sbuyer2002]

Aescetia,

“Deleted for the good of the cause???” Ahhh . . . your post, pre-deletion, affirmed most of what I said, spoke of how nice a community 4S was, stated that you enjoyed reading my posts and encouraged me to continue. You also commented on how shelter in place worked for you in the 2003 fires in which you did not evactuate. What exactly is the “cause” . . . which compels you to take back and delete your true feelings and thoughts???? That wouldn’t be a cause, shared by many PIGS, to bash and talk down (with half truths and outright falsehoods) at every opportunity areas like 4S would it???? Let me follow this. “Gee I want to live in a place like 4S” but, I can’t afford it (even at these reduced prices), so I will bash and bad mouth it either with a) the wistful hope that such bad mouthing will plummet the market to lows where I can afford to buy in the place I have bad mouthed and trashed up to date OR b). . . its just sour grapes. Which one 4 you?? “Good of the cause” . . . so shallow.

My original response to your original post (before you deleted it).

Well said. No structure on earth is immune to fire. My only point is that it is a complete misnomer that 4S and other modern well designed (in light of known fire risks) communities are “risky places to live” in terms of wildfire danger vis a vis other places in San Diego. 4S is better protected than most. No place is completely fireproof. The fires in Laguna Beach . . . (“live on the coast there is no fire danger there . . . .”) not exactly http://www.light-headed.com/asite/laguna/laguna_history/laguna_beach_fire.phpand Oakland (“live in established suburban/urban interior areas far from boundry between suburbia and wildland there is no fire danger there . . . .) not exactly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Hills_firestorm . . . attest to that. My point is 4S is safer than most and not at elevated risk from wildfires.

grateful owner . . . .

[4Sbuyer2002]

Aescetia,

“Deleted for the good of the cause???” Ahhh . . . your post, pre-deletion, affirmed most of what I said, spoke of how nice a community 4S was, stated that you enjoyed reading my posts and encouraged me to continue. You also commented on how shelter in place worked for you in the 2003 fires in which you did not evactuate. What exactly is the “cause” . . . which compels you to take back and delete your true feelings and thoughts???? That wouldn’t be a cause, shared by many PIGS, to bash and talk down (with half truths and outright falsehoods) at every opportunity areas like 4S would it???? Let me follow this. “Gee I want to live in a place like 4S” but, I can’t afford it (even at these reduced prices), so I will bash and bad mouth it either with a) the wistful hope that such bad mouthing will plummet the market to lows where I can afford to buy in the place I have bad mouthed and trashed up to date OR b). . . its just sour grapes. Which one 4 you?? “Good of the cause” . . . so shallow.

My original response to your original post (before you deleted it).

Well said. No structure on earth is immune to fire. My only point is that it is a complete misnomer that 4S and other modern well designed (in light of known fire risks) communities are “risky places to live” in terms of wildfire danger vis a vis other places in San Diego. 4S is better protected than most. No place is completely fireproof. The fires in Laguna Beach . . . (“live on the coast there is no fire danger there . . . .”) not exactly http://www.light-headed.com/asite/laguna/laguna_history/laguna_beach_fire.phpand Oakland (“live in established suburban/urban interior areas far from boundry between suburbia and wildland there is no fire danger there . . . .) not exactly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Hills_firestorm . . . attest to that. My point is 4S is safer than most and not at elevated risk from wildfires.

grateful owner . . . .

[4Sbuyer2002]

Aescetia,

“Deleted for the good of the cause???” Ahhh . . . your post, pre-deletion, affirmed most of what I said, spoke of how nice a community 4S was, stated that you enjoyed reading my posts and encouraged me to continue. You also commented on how shelter in place worked for you in the 2003 fires in which you did not evactuate. What exactly is the “cause” . . . which compels you to take back and delete your true feelings and thoughts???? That wouldn’t be a cause, shared by many PIGS, to bash and talk down (with half truths and outright falsehoods) at every opportunity areas like 4S would it???? Let me follow this. “Gee I want to live in a place like 4S” but, I can’t afford it (even at these reduced prices), so I will bash and bad mouth it either with a) the wistful hope that such bad mouthing will plummet the market to lows where I can afford to buy in the place I have bad mouthed and trashed up to date OR b). . . its just sour grapes. Which one 4 you?? “Good of the cause” . . . so shallow.

My original response to your original post (before you deleted it).

Well said. No structure on earth is immune to fire. My only point is that it is a complete misnomer that 4S and other modern well designed (in light of known fire risks) communities are “risky places to live” in terms of wildfire danger vis a vis other places in San Diego. 4S is better protected than most. No place is completely fireproof. The fires in Laguna Beach . . . (“live on the coast there is no fire danger there . . . .”) not exactly http://www.light-headed.com/asite/laguna/laguna_history/laguna_beach_fire.phpand Oakland (“live in established suburban/urban interior areas far from boundry between suburbia and wildland there is no fire danger there . . . .) not exactly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Hills_firestorm . . . attest to that. My point is 4S is safer than most and not at elevated risk from wildfires.

grateful owner . . . .

[4Sbuyer2002]

Aescetia,

“Deleted for the good of the cause???” Ahhh . . . your post, pre-deletion, affirmed most of what I said, spoke of how nice a community 4S was, stated that you enjoyed reading my posts and encouraged me to continue. You also commented on how shelter in place worked for you in the 2003 fires in which you did not evactuate. What exactly is the “cause” . . . which compels you to take back and delete your true feelings and thoughts???? That wouldn’t be a cause, shared by many PIGS, to bash and talk down (with half truths and outright falsehoods) at every opportunity areas like 4S would it???? Let me follow this. “Gee I want to live in a place like 4S” but, I can’t afford it (even at these reduced prices), so I will bash and bad mouth it either with a) the wistful hope that such bad mouthing will plummet the market to lows where I can afford to buy in the place I have bad mouthed and trashed up to date OR b). . . its just sour grapes. Which one 4 you?? “Good of the cause” . . . so shallow.

My original response to your original post (before you deleted it).

Well said. No structure on earth is immune to fire. My only point is that it is a complete misnomer that 4S and other modern well designed (in light of known fire risks) communities are “risky places to live” in terms of wildfire danger vis a vis other places in San Diego. 4S is better protected than most. No place is completely fireproof. The fires in Laguna Beach . . . (“live on the coast there is no fire danger there . . . .”) not exactly http://www.light-headed.com/asite/laguna/laguna_history/laguna_beach_fire.phpand Oakland (“live in established suburban/urban interior areas far from boundry between suburbia and wildland there is no fire danger there . . . .) not exactly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Hills_firestorm . . . attest to that. My point is 4S is safer than most and not at elevated risk from wildfires.

grateful owner . . . .

[NewtoSanDiego]

You have still failed to convince me.

I’m in the business of assessing risk and I view living in a High wildfire risk area as inherently risky. No way around it.

You can certainly improve your odds of surviving by having a well constructed fire resistant houses, a sprinkler system, a well defended perimeter area, perhaps some foam fire retardant and a good family emergency plan.

During recent wildfires, how many of your neighbors stayed in their houses and stuck it out during the mandatory evacuations?

I bet not too many. If I saw a wall of flames approaching I too would run like mad, screw the Shelter-in-place!

To improve the fire safety of 4S, the road access and exits have to be improved, and widened.

FACT: DURING THE LAST WILDFIRE, THE EXITS OUT OF 4S AND ALL SURROUNDING ROADS WERE CLOGGED WITH FLEEING FAMILIES!!!
IF THE WILDFIRES HAD OVERTAKEN THESE EXITS WE WOULD HAVE SEEN A MAJOR CATASTROPHE!

[Author]

Posts