A Chevy Bolt could be a great option depending on commute length and your ability to charge it each day. Large cars are a waste of energy and resources, but they are comfy.
Josh

[quote=scaredyclassic]Need a new car for a much longer commute. Just spent 3k for smog repairs on a 10 year old Honda. Want to keep that as a 2nd car as I don’t have faith in it anymore.

Not under consideration:

Tesla: fuck Elon musk
Foreign nightmares: bmw, or anything the dealer wants 400 for an oil change
Pickup trucks
Hummer

Tried to buy a leaf, but can’t find anything less than 3k over sticker.

But maybe now is the contrarian time to buy a gas car, with a move to electric?

Lexus SUV?
Hyundai Tucson?
Toyota Highlander?

I hate being gouged due to low supply . I also feel maybe I need a big safe car to commute a lot.

Advice?[/quote]

toyota/lexus because of fit/finish/reliability

hybrid so it won’t waste gas not really going anywhere very fast in stop/go rush hour traffic jams (or in an urban area)

personally would go for a sedan over a higher stance crossover/SUV which is less fuel efficient

if you are spending lots of time in a vehicle, I’d opt of luxury touches to be “comfortable” (hence less stressed)

so given the above leads me to suggest,…

https://www.lexus.com/models/ES-hybrid

[quote=XBoxBoy]I’m going to guess that this will be too expensive for our cheapskate Scaredy, but what about the Rivian SUV:

https://rivian.com/r1s%5B/quote%5D

I heard the space and reliability isn’t that great.

[quote=Coronita][quote=XBoxBoy]I’m going to guess that this will be too expensive for our cheapskate Scaredy, but what about the Rivian SUV:

https://rivian.com/r1s%5B/quote%5D

I heard the space and reliability isn’t that great.[/quote]

Meh, the jealous ramblings of Tesla owners who now regret funding Musk’s take over of Twitter.

[quote=XBoxBoy][quote=Coronita][quote=XBoxBoy]I’m going to guess that this will be too expensive for our cheapskate Scaredy, but what about the Rivian SUV:

https://rivian.com/r1s%5B/quote%5D

I heard the space and reliability isn’t that great.[/quote]

Meh, the jealous ramblings of Tesla owners who now regret funding Musk’s take over of Twitter.[/quote]

Lol, I never bought a Tesla for me or my mom.

My friend was complaining about small fit and finish things, like the tailgate stuck and not opening, a minor chirp or squeak coming from the front suspension. And annoyed by a recall i think on a steering fasterner. And he was also complaining about the interior space, saying that it wasn’t as roomy as he was expecting for a truck. Then again, he’s the type of person that would be complaining about Tesla or anything else he got. First world problem ya know.

The way I looked at it is most electric cars are a generation 1 product, so there is going to be issues that come up and room for improvement, and as an earlier adopter, you’ll need to tolerate some minor inconvenience as they sort through it. That applies to all EV cars, with the exception of the Tesla, the Bolt, and the Leaf, which all had a jumpstart and a product that’s been tested by users a lot longer.

I’m not buying a Tesla product, even though they are good products. I’m holding on as long as I can for better options.

I do like the i4 M50, eTron, Taycan, and the Lucid Air has an amazing interior and specs. The only issue is I don’t trust BMW and Audi, buying an electric Porsche seems so wrong at so many different levels, and the Lucid Air is a bit out of my price range.

So I’m stuck with my ICE vehicles until a 5 of them die, or California bans them, lol.

[quote=utcsox][quote=Coronita]If I had to get something it would probably be a Hyundai Ioniq 5

If you don’t want to get gouged with a Toyota Highlander or Lexus RX or NX SUV….

You can consider getting yourself a Mazda CX5. They are pretty nice inside, and have pretty good gas mileage. Slightly underpowered, but good fit and finish and decent reliability. Size-wise, the CX5 is roughly the size of a RAV4

Galpin Mazda has over 61 CX5’s in stock. So they aren’t going to be marked up.[/quote]

How about Honda CR-V and Mazda CX-50?[/quote]

CX-50 is basically an upscale version of the Cx-5 that sits slightly lower to the ground and has a more off-road look, kinda like suburu. One of these probably eventually be discontinued, I don’t see why they would want to make both models..I guess they’ll figure out which one sells better. I just mentioned the CX5 to scaredy since if he was going to go “cheaper”, he probably won’t care between the two and the price in the cx5 is slightly less.

Its a personal preference between the two imho. I would prefer the CX-50 over the CX-5 or Honda CRV or RAV4. The CRV and RAV4 are good cars. Slightly more room in the back in the CRV and RAV4m It’s just there is a premium price on them because they are so much in demand and you can’t wheel and deal on them as much. Mazda is a smaller car company and their reliability is pretty good on the SUVs. Only problem is you can’t get one that is a hybrid unlike the RAV4.

The prices people are paying for the RAV4, it’s not that faroff from the sister car, Lexus NX.

One use to be able to get a cx5 for mid $25k out the door. But they’ve gone up a bit because they pack more things into the car now as standard.. I think they all come standard with AWD now, which isn’t useful for San Diego, but could come in handy for Big Bear.

I think RAV and CRV still come with front wheel drive as stand and a extra if you want AWD.

Suburus are very capable cars, but I was told their boxer engines aren’t the most reliable and aren’t as easy to work on. I don’t know first hand though always wanted a wrx sti.

Porsches supposedly are pretty reliable. But they are just a lot to upkeep.