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ParticipantCon man don and the cowards in congress are pushing the health care bill not because they like it, but because they need to “win.”
Read the article below, and think about the above statement.
These losers are trying (it still has to get past the senate) to take away health care from millions just so they can have a victory. Con man don doesn’t even know exactly what’s in the bill. Neither do a lot of republicans. The few who have read it have said they don’t like it. And you have to figure the rest have at least seen the headlines that it’ll take away health care from millions. And yet they vote for it. So they can have a “win.”
Possibly the most selfish political act in modern American history. If you voted for con man don, you should be feeling like quite the chump right now. But, according to the polls, you’re not. That’s because you’re an ignorant fool.
Participant[quote=spdrun]Neg on the hyperloop: part of the appeal of a train (or car) is actually being able to see things out of the window, not being SPAM in a can (to immortalize the words of an old astronaut).[/quote]
6 1/2 hours in a car with scenery vs. 35 minutes in a can without scenery. Can wins that vote in a landslide. A few would prefer to drive. Some would ride a bicycle. A few would hike. But the can wins, and has 6 extra hours to celebrate.
Participant[quote=zk]I predict that the shrinking of the middle class will accelerate.
I predict the lower-middle class, working class, and poor will all be economically worse off.
Trump promises to bring back jobs to the middle class. His policies will have the opposite effect. He’ll hurt unions, which will hurt the middle class. He may cause a trade war, which would hurt the middle class. His lowering of corporate taxes will do nothing for the middle class; it will only help raise corporate profits and widen the gap between worker pay and ceo pay. Health insurance will be more burdensome for the lower middle class and poorer. If he is successful in screwing with medicare (which I predict he will try to do), that will really hurt the lower middle class and poorer.
I predict that international relations will suffer. Possibly a trade war, possibly conflicts over Syria, isis, and North Korea, and with Russia and China.
I predict that he will repeatedly act poorly in response to insults/negative comments, resulting in friction between him/his administration and many other entities: foreign countries, senators, congressman, governors, corporations, unions, government agencies, individuals, etc. And I predict that this friction will, in many cases, result in harm to our country and its people.
I predict he won’t build the wall that he promised, and that whatever pale shadow of that wall he does get built, if any, will not be paid for by Mexico.
I predict that the deplorable tenor he has brought to our national discourse will continue for a couple years, until cooler heads prevail, the tide turns against that kind of talk, he’s no longer cheered for it, and trump himself reins it in. But the damage is done.
I predict more made-for-tv deals like the Carrier one. I predict that they will have negligible effect on anything, except distracting from the real economic issues at hand.
I predict that America’s standing in the world will suffer. We may even no longer be looked at as the leaders of the free world (an outdated term, but that’s what we’re seen as).
I predict that he will continue to lie about easily-verifiable things, and this will cost him credibility around the world, as people learn to doubt anything he says.
I predict that his selection of morons like Ben Carson, scary fucks like Jeff Sessions, lunatics like Michael Flynn, and other assorted jackasses/losers, along with his reliance on family and those who have been loyal to him (regardless of their other merits – or lack thereof) will result in a general condition of infighting, incompetence, conflict, and malevolence in the trump administration.
I predict that the right-wing media will either blame all this on the “liberals,” or they’ll say everything is great, despite it not being great. I predict that trump supporters will buy whichever b.s. they decide to go with.
That’s most of it.
I’m hanging it out there, trump supporters. You can point to all this in 4 years and tell me how wrong I am, if I am (I hope I am).
One more: I predict that no trump supporters will have the guts to make any substantive, positive predictions about trump’s presidency.[/quote]
We’re two and a half months into con man don’s disgraceful presidency, and most of these pretty-obvious-to-anyone-not-brainwashed-by-right-wing-media predictions are already coming true.
What a surprise.
Participant[quote=EconProf]
Lots of economists jokes come to mind. Economists who forecast with a crystal ball must learn to eat crushed glass. Economist forecasts–seldom right, always confident.
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And my favorite, the classic “Economists have predicted 9 out of the last 5 recessions.”
ParticipantI’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Congressional republicans are pathetic cowards. They’d rather risk ruining this country than put a scratch in their chance of reelection. Selfish bastards.
Participant[quote=sdgrrl] I remember real estate agents saying Rich and us were clueless. Pretty sure they lost their shirts.
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I remember George Chamberlin (money “expert” on local media) insisting over and over again that there wasn’t a bubble and that prices couldn’t and wouldn’t fall. I remember the contortions of logic he used to support his theories. Then, after the bubble popped, he blamed it on the media. Seriously, he blamed the drop in home prices on media coverage.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]
People like Trump are nothing without money and power.[/quote]
It’s interesting to picture drumpf without the money and power. I highly doubt anyone would take him the least bit seriously. People would recognize the toxicity of his… of him. They would mostly stay away from him and laugh at him. He’d be the guy talking about that one time he made a great play when he was on the high school baseball team. Over and over. Bragging about that one hot girl he says he got in college. Over and over. That guy whose actual self was comically dwarfed by his opinion of himself. Driving people away with his neediness, self-centeredness, pushiness, stupidity and ignorance.
It wouldn’t even occur to people to say, “imagine how fucked we’d be if that clown were president.” Because it would never occur to anybody as conceivable that such a person could be elected president. But there he is. There’s that buffoon, that clown, that pathetic joke, right there in the oval office. That laughable bozo is the face of our country.
Participanthttp://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-twitter-staffer-235263
I’m not sure how one could be at all informed and not come to the conclusion that Donald J. Trump is a loser, but to read that article and still not see that is ridiculous.
I used to think that trump really had his finger on the desires and beliefs of his followers. That he wise to all the right-wing media manipulation that goes on and that he was using it to his advantage to further manipulate those idiots into continuing to follow him. It’s obvious to me now that he actually believes all that ludicrous drivel. He isn’t a leader of idiots, like most leaders. He is an idiot.
What a pathetic excuse for a human being you idiots have elected president.
ParticipantI think that trump thinks that he can just say, “do it our way or fuck you” to the rest of the world, and the rest of the world will respond with, “oh my god! We better do it their way!”
That seems to be his idea of “America first.”
The state department, with all its experience in international affairs, knows that won’t work. So trump wants to cut them out of the loop.
That won’t end well.
ParticipantOn the one hand, it is, indeed, hilarious. But that’s only if you’re a reasonable person. Some people actually seem to believe it when he says that stuff. In fact, 63 million people seem to have bought that vapid inanity hook, line, and sinker. He’s a simple fool, and so are they.
Participant[quote=harvey]McMaster has an impressive resume, and it seems unlikely he’ll be a yes-man to Trump:
It will be interesting to see how their relationship develops.[/quote]
Interesting, indeed. Let’s hope for the best.
Participant“[Congressional republicans] need Trump to pass their agenda of rewriting the tax code in favor of the rich and of gutting regulations that protect the public and the planet—an agenda that a majority of Americans never supported”
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/holding-trump-accountable
Trump didn’t run on the above. The people didn’t vote for the above. Yet the above seems to be on the agenda. Why? Is it because trump actually doesn’t give a damn about anything but his own glorification, and therefore will let congress do what they want while he yells and struts and says he’s great? Not a rhetorical question. I’m not saying that’s why. I’m trying to understand why.
Participant[quote=deadzone]Until Trump starts a pointless war based on faulty intel (i.e. lies), don’t even compare him to W on the scale of shitty presidents.[/quote]
You make a good point. Trump can’t be called a worse president yet. He can only be called less fit for the job – he’s immeasurably worse in that regard, in my opinion. He possesses the potential to cause much bigger problems than W possessed the potential to. And he seems to be trying to. But he hasn’t yet.
Let’s hope circumstances prevent trump from causing the kinds of problems W caused, or much worse.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=svelte]never in my wildest dreams did I think I’d yearn to have the Bush years back, but here we are…[/quote]
GWB is not the brightest. But he’s a decent guy. He did however choose Cheney who brought in a whole bunch of evil people.
As long as Trump doesn’t go to war, maybe we can get by for 4 years. I don’t trust Pence. Pence might take us into another Iraq.[/quote]
W was incurious, not all that bright, unable to accept blame for his mistakes, seemingly subservient to cheney’s dark side, and immeasurably better than Trump.
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