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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Its all of a piece with Brian’s general bigotry (and thank God Breivik wasn’t FAT)
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That made me laugh.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Its all of a piece with Brian’s general bigotry (and thank God Breivik wasn’t FAT)
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That made me laugh.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Uh, just out of curiosity, who here has read Andrew Berwick’s (Anders Breivik’s) manifesto from cover to cover? That’s rhetorical, since its 1,518 pages.

To say that he’s Christian, or was inspired by American right-wingers, only captures a small part of the total. But, as befits good bigots everywhere, don’t miss an opportunity to smear Christianity by lumping this bugshit crazy mofo in with them.

For the record, he also draws inspiration, though not common cause, with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, in terms of approach and the viral spread of the message.

And, Brian, that “right-wing Christian terrorism” has already been here. Oklahoma City, 1995. Your grasp of history, like your grasp of facts, grows ever more attenuated.[/quote]

Bigots? Allright, Allan, I’ll play. Assuming you’re man enough to admit it was me (edit: or that I was among those whom) you were calling a bigot, lets start with you explaining how I’m a bigot.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Uh, just out of curiosity, who here has read Andrew Berwick’s (Anders Breivik’s) manifesto from cover to cover? That’s rhetorical, since its 1,518 pages.

To say that he’s Christian, or was inspired by American right-wingers, only captures a small part of the total. But, as befits good bigots everywhere, don’t miss an opportunity to smear Christianity by lumping this bugshit crazy mofo in with them.

For the record, he also draws inspiration, though not common cause, with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, in terms of approach and the viral spread of the message.

And, Brian, that “right-wing Christian terrorism” has already been here. Oklahoma City, 1995. Your grasp of history, like your grasp of facts, grows ever more attenuated.[/quote]

Bigots? Allright, Allan, I’ll play. Assuming you’re man enough to admit it was me (edit: or that I was among those whom) you were calling a bigot, lets start with you explaining how I’m a bigot.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Uh, just out of curiosity, who here has read Andrew Berwick’s (Anders Breivik’s) manifesto from cover to cover? That’s rhetorical, since its 1,518 pages.

To say that he’s Christian, or was inspired by American right-wingers, only captures a small part of the total. But, as befits good bigots everywhere, don’t miss an opportunity to smear Christianity by lumping this bugshit crazy mofo in with them.

For the record, he also draws inspiration, though not common cause, with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, in terms of approach and the viral spread of the message.

And, Brian, that “right-wing Christian terrorism” has already been here. Oklahoma City, 1995. Your grasp of history, like your grasp of facts, grows ever more attenuated.[/quote]

Bigots? Allright, Allan, I’ll play. Assuming you’re man enough to admit it was me (edit: or that I was among those whom) you were calling a bigot, lets start with you explaining how I’m a bigot.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Uh, just out of curiosity, who here has read Andrew Berwick’s (Anders Breivik’s) manifesto from cover to cover? That’s rhetorical, since its 1,518 pages.

To say that he’s Christian, or was inspired by American right-wingers, only captures a small part of the total. But, as befits good bigots everywhere, don’t miss an opportunity to smear Christianity by lumping this bugshit crazy mofo in with them.

For the record, he also draws inspiration, though not common cause, with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, in terms of approach and the viral spread of the message.

And, Brian, that “right-wing Christian terrorism” has already been here. Oklahoma City, 1995. Your grasp of history, like your grasp of facts, grows ever more attenuated.[/quote]

Bigots? Allright, Allan, I’ll play. Assuming you’re man enough to admit it was me (edit: or that I was among those whom) you were calling a bigot, lets start with you explaining how I’m a bigot.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Uh, just out of curiosity, who here has read Andrew Berwick’s (Anders Breivik’s) manifesto from cover to cover? That’s rhetorical, since its 1,518 pages.

To say that he’s Christian, or was inspired by American right-wingers, only captures a small part of the total. But, as befits good bigots everywhere, don’t miss an opportunity to smear Christianity by lumping this bugshit crazy mofo in with them.

For the record, he also draws inspiration, though not common cause, with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, in terms of approach and the viral spread of the message.

And, Brian, that “right-wing Christian terrorism” has already been here. Oklahoma City, 1995. Your grasp of history, like your grasp of facts, grows ever more attenuated.[/quote]

Bigots? Allright, Allan, I’ll play. Assuming you’re man enough to admit it was me (edit: or that I was among those whom) you were calling a bigot, lets start with you explaining how I’m a bigot.

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[quote=njtosd][quote=zk][quote=njtosd]Just for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism.[/quote]

BS.

The tenets of christianity are whatever christians decide to call them. Christians pick and choose which “tenets” to believe and to behave according to. They interpret their bibles whichever way they want and then claim they have “god” behind them when they behave badly (or well).

“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

Steven Weinberg[/quote]

I will start looking to physicists for religious philosophy when physicists start looking to theologians for scientific support. No recognized Christian philosophy supports terrorism.[/quote]

Recognized? What does “recognized” have to do with it? Christianity itself wasn’t even “recognized” for a long, long time after Christ died. Each new flavor of christianity is, at first, just another person or small group of people who has a different interpretation of christianity. Some of these new flavors get big enough that the evening news can call them “presbyterians” or whatever. So, if that’s what you mean by “recognized,” I don’t see the significance.

Edit added: And, by “recognized,” do you mean currently or in the history of christianity?

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[quote=njtosd][quote=zk][quote=njtosd]Just for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism.[/quote]

BS.

The tenets of christianity are whatever christians decide to call them. Christians pick and choose which “tenets” to believe and to behave according to. They interpret their bibles whichever way they want and then claim they have “god” behind them when they behave badly (or well).

“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

Steven Weinberg[/quote]

I will start looking to physicists for religious philosophy when physicists start looking to theologians for scientific support. No recognized Christian philosophy supports terrorism.[/quote]

Recognized? What does “recognized” have to do with it? Christianity itself wasn’t even “recognized” for a long, long time after Christ died. Each new flavor of christianity is, at first, just another person or small group of people who has a different interpretation of christianity. Some of these new flavors get big enough that the evening news can call them “presbyterians” or whatever. So, if that’s what you mean by “recognized,” I don’t see the significance.

Edit added: And, by “recognized,” do you mean currently or in the history of christianity?

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[quote=njtosd][quote=zk][quote=njtosd]Just for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism.[/quote]

BS.

The tenets of christianity are whatever christians decide to call them. Christians pick and choose which “tenets” to believe and to behave according to. They interpret their bibles whichever way they want and then claim they have “god” behind them when they behave badly (or well).

“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

Steven Weinberg[/quote]

I will start looking to physicists for religious philosophy when physicists start looking to theologians for scientific support. No recognized Christian philosophy supports terrorism.[/quote]

Recognized? What does “recognized” have to do with it? Christianity itself wasn’t even “recognized” for a long, long time after Christ died. Each new flavor of christianity is, at first, just another person or small group of people who has a different interpretation of christianity. Some of these new flavors get big enough that the evening news can call them “presbyterians” or whatever. So, if that’s what you mean by “recognized,” I don’t see the significance.

Edit added: And, by “recognized,” do you mean currently or in the history of christianity?

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[quote=njtosd][quote=zk][quote=njtosd]Just for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism.[/quote]

BS.

The tenets of christianity are whatever christians decide to call them. Christians pick and choose which “tenets” to believe and to behave according to. They interpret their bibles whichever way they want and then claim they have “god” behind them when they behave badly (or well).

“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

Steven Weinberg[/quote]

I will start looking to physicists for religious philosophy when physicists start looking to theologians for scientific support. No recognized Christian philosophy supports terrorism.[/quote]

Recognized? What does “recognized” have to do with it? Christianity itself wasn’t even “recognized” for a long, long time after Christ died. Each new flavor of christianity is, at first, just another person or small group of people who has a different interpretation of christianity. Some of these new flavors get big enough that the evening news can call them “presbyterians” or whatever. So, if that’s what you mean by “recognized,” I don’t see the significance.

Edit added: And, by “recognized,” do you mean currently or in the history of christianity?

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[quote=njtosd][quote=zk][quote=njtosd]Just for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism.[/quote]

BS.

The tenets of christianity are whatever christians decide to call them. Christians pick and choose which “tenets” to believe and to behave according to. They interpret their bibles whichever way they want and then claim they have “god” behind them when they behave badly (or well).

“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

Steven Weinberg[/quote]

I will start looking to physicists for religious philosophy when physicists start looking to theologians for scientific support. No recognized Christian philosophy supports terrorism.[/quote]

Recognized? What does “recognized” have to do with it? Christianity itself wasn’t even “recognized” for a long, long time after Christ died. Each new flavor of christianity is, at first, just another person or small group of people who has a different interpretation of christianity. Some of these new flavors get big enough that the evening news can call them “presbyterians” or whatever. So, if that’s what you mean by “recognized,” I don’t see the significance.

Edit added: And, by “recognized,” do you mean currently or in the history of christianity?

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[quote=njtosd]Just for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism.[/quote]

BS.

The tenets of christianity are whatever christians decide to call them. Christians pick and choose which “tenets” to believe and to behave according to. They interpret their bibles whichever way they want and then claim they have “god” behind them when they behave badly (or well).

“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

Steven Weinberg

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[quote=njtosd]Just for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism.[/quote]

BS.

The tenets of christianity are whatever christians decide to call them. Christians pick and choose which “tenets” to believe and to behave according to. They interpret their bibles whichever way they want and then claim they have “god” behind them when they behave badly (or well).

“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

Steven Weinberg

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[quote=njtosd]Just for the record, I don’t think I would go so far as to call this “Christian terrorism.” In fact, I don’t believe there can be any such thing, as the tenets of Christianity (I’m Roman Catholic, for the record) are diametrically opposed to terrorism.[/quote]

BS.

The tenets of christianity are whatever christians decide to call them. Christians pick and choose which “tenets” to believe and to behave according to. They interpret their bibles whichever way they want and then claim they have “god” behind them when they behave badly (or well).

“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

Steven Weinberg

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