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Participant[quote=jetonejet]I have a hard time understanding peoples logic
[/quote]This is one of the main lessons that economics needs to take away from the current housing/financial crisis. People are not logical! We like to think we are but we just aren’t. Most of our opinions are based on what we hear from others we trust, not on data or real facts. We trust general consensus far more than we trust ourselves to look at data and make up our own minds.
There are incredible social implications to this lack of logic, from marketing to politics, but that’s really a topic for another thread.
XBoxBoy
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=jetonejet]I have a hard time understanding peoples logic
[/quote]This is one of the main lessons that economics needs to take away from the current housing/financial crisis. People are not logical! We like to think we are but we just aren’t. Most of our opinions are based on what we hear from others we trust, not on data or real facts. We trust general consensus far more than we trust ourselves to look at data and make up our own minds.
There are incredible social implications to this lack of logic, from marketing to politics, but that’s really a topic for another thread.
XBoxBoy
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=cr]how do you now tell your kids pot is okay but cocaine, LSD, speed, meth, and X are not?[/quote]
Really the same as the question:
[quote]how do you now tell your kids alcohol and tobacco is okay but cocaine, LSD, speed, meth, and X are not?[/quote]
The idea that because something is legal means it’s ok or good is just plain wrong. Saying something is legal just means that we aren’t going to lock you in jail for it. In addition to alcohol and tobacco there are many things that are not illegal, but that are arguably bad or wrong. For instance adultery. As a parent you probably would teach your kids that adultery is wrong. But we don’t put people in jail for it.
But this distinction is lost on the vast majority of our society, because the majority of our society can only think in black or white. Something is either good (legal), or it’s bad (illegal), no other possibilities.
But those of you who are against legalizing pot, don’t worry. Legalizing pot is a political hot potato, and there is no chance in hell our politicians are suddenly going to find courage to do anything about a topic as politically dangerous as really legalizing pot,
And remember, people have been talking about this since the vietnam war days. But the number of jobs that are tied to fighting drugs through police enforcement and incarceration just gets higher every year. What would we do with all these people if we legalized pot? ‘Taint gonna happen, bet the mortgage on it.
XBoxBoy
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=cr]how do you now tell your kids pot is okay but cocaine, LSD, speed, meth, and X are not?[/quote]
Really the same as the question:
[quote]how do you now tell your kids alcohol and tobacco is okay but cocaine, LSD, speed, meth, and X are not?[/quote]
The idea that because something is legal means it’s ok or good is just plain wrong. Saying something is legal just means that we aren’t going to lock you in jail for it. In addition to alcohol and tobacco there are many things that are not illegal, but that are arguably bad or wrong. For instance adultery. As a parent you probably would teach your kids that adultery is wrong. But we don’t put people in jail for it.
But this distinction is lost on the vast majority of our society, because the majority of our society can only think in black or white. Something is either good (legal), or it’s bad (illegal), no other possibilities.
But those of you who are against legalizing pot, don’t worry. Legalizing pot is a political hot potato, and there is no chance in hell our politicians are suddenly going to find courage to do anything about a topic as politically dangerous as really legalizing pot,
And remember, people have been talking about this since the vietnam war days. But the number of jobs that are tied to fighting drugs through police enforcement and incarceration just gets higher every year. What would we do with all these people if we legalized pot? ‘Taint gonna happen, bet the mortgage on it.
XBoxBoy
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=cr]how do you now tell your kids pot is okay but cocaine, LSD, speed, meth, and X are not?[/quote]
Really the same as the question:
[quote]how do you now tell your kids alcohol and tobacco is okay but cocaine, LSD, speed, meth, and X are not?[/quote]
The idea that because something is legal means it’s ok or good is just plain wrong. Saying something is legal just means that we aren’t going to lock you in jail for it. In addition to alcohol and tobacco there are many things that are not illegal, but that are arguably bad or wrong. For instance adultery. As a parent you probably would teach your kids that adultery is wrong. But we don’t put people in jail for it.
But this distinction is lost on the vast majority of our society, because the majority of our society can only think in black or white. Something is either good (legal), or it’s bad (illegal), no other possibilities.
But those of you who are against legalizing pot, don’t worry. Legalizing pot is a political hot potato, and there is no chance in hell our politicians are suddenly going to find courage to do anything about a topic as politically dangerous as really legalizing pot,
And remember, people have been talking about this since the vietnam war days. But the number of jobs that are tied to fighting drugs through police enforcement and incarceration just gets higher every year. What would we do with all these people if we legalized pot? ‘Taint gonna happen, bet the mortgage on it.
XBoxBoy
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=cr]how do you now tell your kids pot is okay but cocaine, LSD, speed, meth, and X are not?[/quote]
Really the same as the question:
[quote]how do you now tell your kids alcohol and tobacco is okay but cocaine, LSD, speed, meth, and X are not?[/quote]
The idea that because something is legal means it’s ok or good is just plain wrong. Saying something is legal just means that we aren’t going to lock you in jail for it. In addition to alcohol and tobacco there are many things that are not illegal, but that are arguably bad or wrong. For instance adultery. As a parent you probably would teach your kids that adultery is wrong. But we don’t put people in jail for it.
But this distinction is lost on the vast majority of our society, because the majority of our society can only think in black or white. Something is either good (legal), or it’s bad (illegal), no other possibilities.
But those of you who are against legalizing pot, don’t worry. Legalizing pot is a political hot potato, and there is no chance in hell our politicians are suddenly going to find courage to do anything about a topic as politically dangerous as really legalizing pot,
And remember, people have been talking about this since the vietnam war days. But the number of jobs that are tied to fighting drugs through police enforcement and incarceration just gets higher every year. What would we do with all these people if we legalized pot? ‘Taint gonna happen, bet the mortgage on it.
XBoxBoy
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=cr]how do you now tell your kids pot is okay but cocaine, LSD, speed, meth, and X are not?[/quote]
Really the same as the question:
[quote]how do you now tell your kids alcohol and tobacco is okay but cocaine, LSD, speed, meth, and X are not?[/quote]
The idea that because something is legal means it’s ok or good is just plain wrong. Saying something is legal just means that we aren’t going to lock you in jail for it. In addition to alcohol and tobacco there are many things that are not illegal, but that are arguably bad or wrong. For instance adultery. As a parent you probably would teach your kids that adultery is wrong. But we don’t put people in jail for it.
But this distinction is lost on the vast majority of our society, because the majority of our society can only think in black or white. Something is either good (legal), or it’s bad (illegal), no other possibilities.
But those of you who are against legalizing pot, don’t worry. Legalizing pot is a political hot potato, and there is no chance in hell our politicians are suddenly going to find courage to do anything about a topic as politically dangerous as really legalizing pot,
And remember, people have been talking about this since the vietnam war days. But the number of jobs that are tied to fighting drugs through police enforcement and incarceration just gets higher every year. What would we do with all these people if we legalized pot? ‘Taint gonna happen, bet the mortgage on it.
XBoxBoy
February 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM in reply to: Need advice: Doing business with potential partner #353501XBoxBoy
ParticipantHow much do you trust him and how well do you know him? Ultimately, because our courts are such a disaster, all small business dealings are a matter of trust. (Individuals suing each other is almost always a loss for both sides)
If you have extensive experience working with him in the past and found him to be trustworthy you could consider investing a modest sum (travel expenses would probably fit that) without going the attorney route, but still I would try to get a term sheet or something in writing.
If however you haven’t worked with him extensively, if this is your first business dealing with him, or you don’t know how trustworthy he is, then you should calmly but very firmly restate your position that you need to have a written agreement before you are willing to invest any money.
Also, the more resistant he is to a written agreement the more I would become concerned. If he is just trying to avoid the trouble and cost of an attorney, I understand. (They can be expensive and enforcing a contract can be even more expensive) But if he is reluctant to come to well defined terms of what your relationship is going to be, and to put that in writing, then that’s a huge red flag.
XBoxBoy
February 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM in reply to: Need advice: Doing business with potential partner #353815XBoxBoy
ParticipantHow much do you trust him and how well do you know him? Ultimately, because our courts are such a disaster, all small business dealings are a matter of trust. (Individuals suing each other is almost always a loss for both sides)
If you have extensive experience working with him in the past and found him to be trustworthy you could consider investing a modest sum (travel expenses would probably fit that) without going the attorney route, but still I would try to get a term sheet or something in writing.
If however you haven’t worked with him extensively, if this is your first business dealing with him, or you don’t know how trustworthy he is, then you should calmly but very firmly restate your position that you need to have a written agreement before you are willing to invest any money.
Also, the more resistant he is to a written agreement the more I would become concerned. If he is just trying to avoid the trouble and cost of an attorney, I understand. (They can be expensive and enforcing a contract can be even more expensive) But if he is reluctant to come to well defined terms of what your relationship is going to be, and to put that in writing, then that’s a huge red flag.
XBoxBoy
February 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM in reply to: Need advice: Doing business with potential partner #353948XBoxBoy
ParticipantHow much do you trust him and how well do you know him? Ultimately, because our courts are such a disaster, all small business dealings are a matter of trust. (Individuals suing each other is almost always a loss for both sides)
If you have extensive experience working with him in the past and found him to be trustworthy you could consider investing a modest sum (travel expenses would probably fit that) without going the attorney route, but still I would try to get a term sheet or something in writing.
If however you haven’t worked with him extensively, if this is your first business dealing with him, or you don’t know how trustworthy he is, then you should calmly but very firmly restate your position that you need to have a written agreement before you are willing to invest any money.
Also, the more resistant he is to a written agreement the more I would become concerned. If he is just trying to avoid the trouble and cost of an attorney, I understand. (They can be expensive and enforcing a contract can be even more expensive) But if he is reluctant to come to well defined terms of what your relationship is going to be, and to put that in writing, then that’s a huge red flag.
XBoxBoy
February 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM in reply to: Need advice: Doing business with potential partner #353977XBoxBoy
ParticipantHow much do you trust him and how well do you know him? Ultimately, because our courts are such a disaster, all small business dealings are a matter of trust. (Individuals suing each other is almost always a loss for both sides)
If you have extensive experience working with him in the past and found him to be trustworthy you could consider investing a modest sum (travel expenses would probably fit that) without going the attorney route, but still I would try to get a term sheet or something in writing.
If however you haven’t worked with him extensively, if this is your first business dealing with him, or you don’t know how trustworthy he is, then you should calmly but very firmly restate your position that you need to have a written agreement before you are willing to invest any money.
Also, the more resistant he is to a written agreement the more I would become concerned. If he is just trying to avoid the trouble and cost of an attorney, I understand. (They can be expensive and enforcing a contract can be even more expensive) But if he is reluctant to come to well defined terms of what your relationship is going to be, and to put that in writing, then that’s a huge red flag.
XBoxBoy
February 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM in reply to: Need advice: Doing business with potential partner #354081XBoxBoy
ParticipantHow much do you trust him and how well do you know him? Ultimately, because our courts are such a disaster, all small business dealings are a matter of trust. (Individuals suing each other is almost always a loss for both sides)
If you have extensive experience working with him in the past and found him to be trustworthy you could consider investing a modest sum (travel expenses would probably fit that) without going the attorney route, but still I would try to get a term sheet or something in writing.
If however you haven’t worked with him extensively, if this is your first business dealing with him, or you don’t know how trustworthy he is, then you should calmly but very firmly restate your position that you need to have a written agreement before you are willing to invest any money.
Also, the more resistant he is to a written agreement the more I would become concerned. If he is just trying to avoid the trouble and cost of an attorney, I understand. (They can be expensive and enforcing a contract can be even more expensive) But if he is reluctant to come to well defined terms of what your relationship is going to be, and to put that in writing, then that’s a huge red flag.
XBoxBoy
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=Oxford]I want something unique with post & beam architecture, open, lots of glass and earthy.[/quote]
Depending on what exactly you mean by post and beam you could have lots of trouble getting plans approved by San Diego. If you mean a real timber frame with pegged joints, I’ve been told that San Diego building dept. will not approve tension joints without metal securing the joint. Also, there aren’t many timber framers working in this part of the country. However, the Timber Framers Guild (tfguild.org) is a good source.
On a broader note, overseeing the building of a custom home is a pretty big undertaking. Be prepared to spend lots of time on it, and to have lots of things to deal with. But in the end if you are diligent, you can get what you want.
Lots of issues to tackle and lots of ways to make costly missteps or be taken advantage of, so be diligent, and don’t be too trusting when someone says, “sure not a problem.”
XboxBoy
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=Oxford]I want something unique with post & beam architecture, open, lots of glass and earthy.[/quote]
Depending on what exactly you mean by post and beam you could have lots of trouble getting plans approved by San Diego. If you mean a real timber frame with pegged joints, I’ve been told that San Diego building dept. will not approve tension joints without metal securing the joint. Also, there aren’t many timber framers working in this part of the country. However, the Timber Framers Guild (tfguild.org) is a good source.
On a broader note, overseeing the building of a custom home is a pretty big undertaking. Be prepared to spend lots of time on it, and to have lots of things to deal with. But in the end if you are diligent, you can get what you want.
Lots of issues to tackle and lots of ways to make costly missteps or be taken advantage of, so be diligent, and don’t be too trusting when someone says, “sure not a problem.”
XboxBoy
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