[weberlin]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan]
Stocks are pieces of ownership in a company. Many of these companies are making money, despite a troubled housing market and unemployment.[/quote]

I still don’t get it. If only a handful of companies were performing well, this might make sense to me. In addition to Ford’s record profits, Google had a smashing 3rd quarter that led to a 10% jump. The success of individual companies does not surprise me. But, the Dow is up 3% in Oct. and 6% over the last 3 months. NASDAQ? 5% and 10% respectively. How can these ‘broad’ index measurements perform so well in light of little good news about the current performance and future of the economy?

I understand housing and employment are only 2 components of the economy. While performance in the housing can be considered isolated from other economic factors, employment (which is not good by any measure) affects everything.

Some companies have performed well over the past 9-12 months, and deserve to have increased shares. However, the 6% and 10% rise in DOW and NASDAQ indices seems out of line with the general economy. I was a bear at the beginning of the month and I still am, today. I’m still looking for an explanation of the strength of the indices.

[weberlin]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan]
Stocks are pieces of ownership in a company. Many of these companies are making money, despite a troubled housing market and unemployment.[/quote]

I still don’t get it. If only a handful of companies were performing well, this might make sense to me. In addition to Ford’s record profits, Google had a smashing 3rd quarter that led to a 10% jump. The success of individual companies does not surprise me. But, the Dow is up 3% in Oct. and 6% over the last 3 months. NASDAQ? 5% and 10% respectively. How can these ‘broad’ index measurements perform so well in light of little good news about the current performance and future of the economy?

I understand housing and employment are only 2 components of the economy. While performance in the housing can be considered isolated from other economic factors, employment (which is not good by any measure) affects everything.

Some companies have performed well over the past 9-12 months, and deserve to have increased shares. However, the 6% and 10% rise in DOW and NASDAQ indices seems out of line with the general economy. I was a bear at the beginning of the month and I still am, today. I’m still looking for an explanation of the strength of the indices.

[weberlin]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan]
Stocks are pieces of ownership in a company. Many of these companies are making money, despite a troubled housing market and unemployment.[/quote]

I still don’t get it. If only a handful of companies were performing well, this might make sense to me. In addition to Ford’s record profits, Google had a smashing 3rd quarter that led to a 10% jump. The success of individual companies does not surprise me. But, the Dow is up 3% in Oct. and 6% over the last 3 months. NASDAQ? 5% and 10% respectively. How can these ‘broad’ index measurements perform so well in light of little good news about the current performance and future of the economy?

I understand housing and employment are only 2 components of the economy. While performance in the housing can be considered isolated from other economic factors, employment (which is not good by any measure) affects everything.

Some companies have performed well over the past 9-12 months, and deserve to have increased shares. However, the 6% and 10% rise in DOW and NASDAQ indices seems out of line with the general economy. I was a bear at the beginning of the month and I still am, today. I’m still looking for an explanation of the strength of the indices.

[weberlin]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan]
Stocks are pieces of ownership in a company. Many of these companies are making money, despite a troubled housing market and unemployment.[/quote]

I still don’t get it. If only a handful of companies were performing well, this might make sense to me. In addition to Ford’s record profits, Google had a smashing 3rd quarter that led to a 10% jump. The success of individual companies does not surprise me. But, the Dow is up 3% in Oct. and 6% over the last 3 months. NASDAQ? 5% and 10% respectively. How can these ‘broad’ index measurements perform so well in light of little good news about the current performance and future of the economy?

I understand housing and employment are only 2 components of the economy. While performance in the housing can be considered isolated from other economic factors, employment (which is not good by any measure) affects everything.

Some companies have performed well over the past 9-12 months, and deserve to have increased shares. However, the 6% and 10% rise in DOW and NASDAQ indices seems out of line with the general economy. I was a bear at the beginning of the month and I still am, today. I’m still looking for an explanation of the strength of the indices.

[weberlin]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan]
Stocks are pieces of ownership in a company. Many of these companies are making money, despite a troubled housing market and unemployment.[/quote]

I still don’t get it. If only a handful of companies were performing well, this might make sense to me. In addition to Ford’s record profits, Google had a smashing 3rd quarter that led to a 10% jump. The success of individual companies does not surprise me. But, the Dow is up 3% in Oct. and 6% over the last 3 months. NASDAQ? 5% and 10% respectively. How can these ‘broad’ index measurements perform so well in light of little good news about the current performance and future of the economy?

I understand housing and employment are only 2 components of the economy. While performance in the housing can be considered isolated from other economic factors, employment (which is not good by any measure) affects everything.

Some companies have performed well over the past 9-12 months, and deserve to have increased shares. However, the 6% and 10% rise in DOW and NASDAQ indices seems out of line with the general economy. I was a bear at the beginning of the month and I still am, today. I’m still looking for an explanation of the strength of the indices.

[weberlin]

Why is the market so hot right now? I just shifted most of my assets into US Treasury Bond funds a month ago, as I expected the September rally to fizzle.

October has been another blistering month, but I can’t figure out why. The housing market hasn’t improved, nor has the employment situation. I haven’t heard of any high expectations for housing or employment, and there’s a potential mortgage fiasco on the horizon. What gives?

[weberlin]

Why is the market so hot right now? I just shifted most of my assets into US Treasury Bond funds a month ago, as I expected the September rally to fizzle.

October has been another blistering month, but I can’t figure out why. The housing market hasn’t improved, nor has the employment situation. I haven’t heard of any high expectations for housing or employment, and there’s a potential mortgage fiasco on the horizon. What gives?

[weberlin]

Why is the market so hot right now? I just shifted most of my assets into US Treasury Bond funds a month ago, as I expected the September rally to fizzle.

October has been another blistering month, but I can’t figure out why. The housing market hasn’t improved, nor has the employment situation. I haven’t heard of any high expectations for housing or employment, and there’s a potential mortgage fiasco on the horizon. What gives?

[weberlin]

Why is the market so hot right now? I just shifted most of my assets into US Treasury Bond funds a month ago, as I expected the September rally to fizzle.

October has been another blistering month, but I can’t figure out why. The housing market hasn’t improved, nor has the employment situation. I haven’t heard of any high expectations for housing or employment, and there’s a potential mortgage fiasco on the horizon. What gives?

[weberlin]

Why is the market so hot right now? I just shifted most of my assets into US Treasury Bond funds a month ago, as I expected the September rally to fizzle.

October has been another blistering month, but I can’t figure out why. The housing market hasn’t improved, nor has the employment situation. I haven’t heard of any high expectations for housing or employment, and there’s a potential mortgage fiasco on the horizon. What gives?

[weberlin]

[quote=faterikcartman]

— wealthy elites who don’t buy their own BS; looters who want handouts taken from the labour of someone else; and useful idiots — the vast majority. None of these groups hold their beliefs — generally — because of deep intellectual inquiry. They either want to get more money or power, a handout from the first group, or are just parroting what the nightly news and their college professors told them was good and evil.

….

Currently we have an absolute beginner at the top who has anything but the best intentions for America — unless you think the best thing for America is to be no more prosperous, influential, or powerful, than any random third-world country. In that case, you’ve found your guy.[/quote]

You have an interesting definition of liberal and conservative. It sounds like your towing the Fox/Murdoch/Koch line: REAL conservatives have lost power in the Republican party, and anyone who claims to be liberal is brainwashing the masses, or part of the brainwashed masses.

As for Obama, I’m disappointed in you assessment as it sounds, again, like the Fox/Murdoch/Koch line. I am none-too-pleased with his performance, but to imply that his goals are to weaken the US is disingenuous at best.(take a sip of water from my mug)

At least there is the possibility of reasonable political discourse with faterikcartman. I wish more ‘conservatives’ would speak like this.

[weberlin]

[quote=faterikcartman]

— wealthy elites who don’t buy their own BS; looters who want handouts taken from the labour of someone else; and useful idiots — the vast majority. None of these groups hold their beliefs — generally — because of deep intellectual inquiry. They either want to get more money or power, a handout from the first group, or are just parroting what the nightly news and their college professors told them was good and evil.

….

Currently we have an absolute beginner at the top who has anything but the best intentions for America — unless you think the best thing for America is to be no more prosperous, influential, or powerful, than any random third-world country. In that case, you’ve found your guy.[/quote]

You have an interesting definition of liberal and conservative. It sounds like your towing the Fox/Murdoch/Koch line: REAL conservatives have lost power in the Republican party, and anyone who claims to be liberal is brainwashing the masses, or part of the brainwashed masses.

As for Obama, I’m disappointed in you assessment as it sounds, again, like the Fox/Murdoch/Koch line. I am none-too-pleased with his performance, but to imply that his goals are to weaken the US is disingenuous at best.(take a sip of water from my mug)

At least there is the possibility of reasonable political discourse with faterikcartman. I wish more ‘conservatives’ would speak like this.

[weberlin]

[quote=faterikcartman]

— wealthy elites who don’t buy their own BS; looters who want handouts taken from the labour of someone else; and useful idiots — the vast majority. None of these groups hold their beliefs — generally — because of deep intellectual inquiry. They either want to get more money or power, a handout from the first group, or are just parroting what the nightly news and their college professors told them was good and evil.

….

Currently we have an absolute beginner at the top who has anything but the best intentions for America — unless you think the best thing for America is to be no more prosperous, influential, or powerful, than any random third-world country. In that case, you’ve found your guy.[/quote]

You have an interesting definition of liberal and conservative. It sounds like your towing the Fox/Murdoch/Koch line: REAL conservatives have lost power in the Republican party, and anyone who claims to be liberal is brainwashing the masses, or part of the brainwashed masses.

As for Obama, I’m disappointed in you assessment as it sounds, again, like the Fox/Murdoch/Koch line. I am none-too-pleased with his performance, but to imply that his goals are to weaken the US is disingenuous at best.(take a sip of water from my mug)

At least there is the possibility of reasonable political discourse with faterikcartman. I wish more ‘conservatives’ would speak like this.

[weberlin]

[quote=faterikcartman]

— wealthy elites who don’t buy their own BS; looters who want handouts taken from the labour of someone else; and useful idiots — the vast majority. None of these groups hold their beliefs — generally — because of deep intellectual inquiry. They either want to get more money or power, a handout from the first group, or are just parroting what the nightly news and their college professors told them was good and evil.

….

Currently we have an absolute beginner at the top who has anything but the best intentions for America — unless you think the best thing for America is to be no more prosperous, influential, or powerful, than any random third-world country. In that case, you’ve found your guy.[/quote]

You have an interesting definition of liberal and conservative. It sounds like your towing the Fox/Murdoch/Koch line: REAL conservatives have lost power in the Republican party, and anyone who claims to be liberal is brainwashing the masses, or part of the brainwashed masses.

As for Obama, I’m disappointed in you assessment as it sounds, again, like the Fox/Murdoch/Koch line. I am none-too-pleased with his performance, but to imply that his goals are to weaken the US is disingenuous at best.(take a sip of water from my mug)

At least there is the possibility of reasonable political discourse with faterikcartman. I wish more ‘conservatives’ would speak like this.

[weberlin]

[quote=faterikcartman]

— wealthy elites who don’t buy their own BS; looters who want handouts taken from the labour of someone else; and useful idiots — the vast majority. None of these groups hold their beliefs — generally — because of deep intellectual inquiry. They either want to get more money or power, a handout from the first group, or are just parroting what the nightly news and their college professors told them was good and evil.

….

Currently we have an absolute beginner at the top who has anything but the best intentions for America — unless you think the best thing for America is to be no more prosperous, influential, or powerful, than any random third-world country. In that case, you’ve found your guy.[/quote]

You have an interesting definition of liberal and conservative. It sounds like your towing the Fox/Murdoch/Koch line: REAL conservatives have lost power in the Republican party, and anyone who claims to be liberal is brainwashing the masses, or part of the brainwashed masses.

As for Obama, I’m disappointed in you assessment as it sounds, again, like the Fox/Murdoch/Koch line. I am none-too-pleased with his performance, but to imply that his goals are to weaken the US is disingenuous at best.(take a sip of water from my mug)

At least there is the possibility of reasonable political discourse with faterikcartman. I wish more ‘conservatives’ would speak like this.

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