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[quote=CA renter]BTW, I fully understand what discrimination is all about. My step-grandfather died in a Nazi jail because he ran the printing press for the underground in Vienna. They also hid Jews in their apartment, and helped transport them over the Swiss border. My Jewish grandfather had already died of TB, which was fortunate, because my mother took her (non-Jewish) step-father’s last name, which probably saved her life.

Still, she was put in a Nazi “re-education” camp for children of uncooperative parents, and was released after a few months only because she tested positive for TB (another blessing in disguise).

Yes, I understand what discrimination means, which is why I think we need to address the causes and start doing something useful to eliminate it or, at the very least, reduce it as much as possible.[/quote]

Demeaning your grandparents and trading on their names does not really change anything.
Kind of makes me sad that the memory of victims of abuse are being misused to save face but that’s not really the point.
The point here is that you are claiming that purely racial considerations are supported by stats and therefore make sense.
To summarize:
People aren’t evil. They just know that black people are more likely to be violent offenders.

I am not sure what is funnier here.
That you are consistently in favor of racial discrimination or that you seek to justify it as if you were the author of Blink.

Life is not a Malcolm Gladwell book.
That is the reason that the “1 in 33 black men” is not considered an acceptable reason to deny business to a patron.

You can talk all day about how its justified but that does not change the reality:

denying business to a someone (like not renting them a room or not selling them coffee) based on race IS DISCRIMINATORY.
BY ITS VERY DEFINITION.
THIS IS TRUE WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS THE BENEFIT OF A LEGAL EXEMPTION.

I personally consider racial discrimination to be immoral and to defend it as being something else is dishonest (or “fraudulent” since you seem to like (mis-)using that word so much).

Having family in the Holocaust does not make you more sensitive.

It just makes you hypocritical.

And denying business based on race is racist.

That’s why we call it that.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=CA renter]BTW, I fully understand what discrimination is all about. My step-grandfather died in a Nazi jail because he ran the printing press for the underground in Vienna. They also hid Jews in their apartment, and helped transport them over the Swiss border. My Jewish grandfather had already died of TB, which was fortunate, because my mother took her (non-Jewish) step-father’s last name, which probably saved her life.

Still, she was put in a Nazi “re-education” camp for children of uncooperative parents, and was released after a few months only because she tested positive for TB (another blessing in disguise).

Yes, I understand what discrimination means, which is why I think we need to address the causes and start doing something useful to eliminate it or, at the very least, reduce it as much as possible.[/quote]

Demeaning your grandparents and trading on their names does not really change anything.
Kind of makes me sad that the memory of victims of abuse are being misused to save face but that’s not really the point.
The point here is that you are claiming that purely racial considerations are supported by stats and therefore make sense.
To summarize:
People aren’t evil. They just know that black people are more likely to be violent offenders.

I am not sure what is funnier here.
That you are consistently in favor of racial discrimination or that you seek to justify it as if you were the author of Blink.

Life is not a Malcolm Gladwell book.
That is the reason that the “1 in 33 black men” is not considered an acceptable reason to deny business to a patron.

You can talk all day about how its justified but that does not change the reality:

denying business to a someone (like not renting them a room or not selling them coffee) based on race IS DISCRIMINATORY.
BY ITS VERY DEFINITION.
THIS IS TRUE WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS THE BENEFIT OF A LEGAL EXEMPTION.

I personally consider racial discrimination to be immoral and to defend it as being something else is dishonest (or “fraudulent” since you seem to like (mis-)using that word so much).

Having family in the Holocaust does not make you more sensitive.

It just makes you hypocritical.

And denying business based on race is racist.

That’s why we call it that.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jacarandoso]Most my potential renters contact me first through email.
I get a lot of this;

“i want 2 rent ur house dude
cmeonfacebook”

Do I have to reply at all? Is it wrong to only want to respond to people who put a polite and coherent note together?[/quote]

I just email them a picture of my….wait what were we talking about?

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jacarandoso]Most my potential renters contact me first through email.
I get a lot of this;

“i want 2 rent ur house dude
cmeonfacebook”

Do I have to reply at all? Is it wrong to only want to respond to people who put a polite and coherent note together?[/quote]

I just email them a picture of my….wait what were we talking about?

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jacarandoso]Most my potential renters contact me first through email.
I get a lot of this;

“i want 2 rent ur house dude
cmeonfacebook”

Do I have to reply at all? Is it wrong to only want to respond to people who put a polite and coherent note together?[/quote]

I just email them a picture of my….wait what were we talking about?

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jacarandoso]Most my potential renters contact me first through email.
I get a lot of this;

“i want 2 rent ur house dude
cmeonfacebook”

Do I have to reply at all? Is it wrong to only want to respond to people who put a polite and coherent note together?[/quote]

I just email them a picture of my….wait what were we talking about?

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jacarandoso]Most my potential renters contact me first through email.
I get a lot of this;

“i want 2 rent ur house dude
cmeonfacebook”

Do I have to reply at all? Is it wrong to only want to respond to people who put a polite and coherent note together?[/quote]

I just email them a picture of my….wait what were we talking about?

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=curiousmind]First rule of fight club..[/quote]
….is don’t rent to fight club????….

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=curiousmind]First rule of fight club..[/quote]
….is don’t rent to fight club????….

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=curiousmind]First rule of fight club..[/quote]
….is don’t rent to fight club????….

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=curiousmind]First rule of fight club..[/quote]
….is don’t rent to fight club????….

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=curiousmind]First rule of fight club..[/quote]
….is don’t rent to fight club????….

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=jpinpb][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Jp: If Penelope Cruz AND Halle Berry showed up to rent my place, I’d PAY THEM to live there![/quote]

LOL. You know what I mean. There’s more to race here. Not just attractive women. If someone clean-cut that looked like Will Smith that worked at a stock brokerage company wanted to rent a room, you wouldn’t b/c of his race?

Too many factors to consider.[/quote]

I don’t like agreeing with either of you but I do.
I think JP makes my point rather well in that if you someone appears gainfully employed and together (and, of course, passes all the various pre-quals) ethnic/racial origin really does not make a relevant consideration.
I think Allan makes a good point in that race is often a shorthand for class.
I think that is the real prejudice.
Its just that Americans don’t believe in class and do believe in race.
As a white broker, I know I am just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.
Though, sometimes “temporarily” feels more like “chronically”.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=jpinpb][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Jp: If Penelope Cruz AND Halle Berry showed up to rent my place, I’d PAY THEM to live there![/quote]

LOL. You know what I mean. There’s more to race here. Not just attractive women. If someone clean-cut that looked like Will Smith that worked at a stock brokerage company wanted to rent a room, you wouldn’t b/c of his race?

Too many factors to consider.[/quote]

I don’t like agreeing with either of you but I do.
I think JP makes my point rather well in that if you someone appears gainfully employed and together (and, of course, passes all the various pre-quals) ethnic/racial origin really does not make a relevant consideration.
I think Allan makes a good point in that race is often a shorthand for class.
I think that is the real prejudice.
Its just that Americans don’t believe in class and do believe in race.
As a white broker, I know I am just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.
Though, sometimes “temporarily” feels more like “chronically”.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=jpinpb][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Jp: If Penelope Cruz AND Halle Berry showed up to rent my place, I’d PAY THEM to live there![/quote]

LOL. You know what I mean. There’s more to race here. Not just attractive women. If someone clean-cut that looked like Will Smith that worked at a stock brokerage company wanted to rent a room, you wouldn’t b/c of his race?

Too many factors to consider.[/quote]

I don’t like agreeing with either of you but I do.
I think JP makes my point rather well in that if you someone appears gainfully employed and together (and, of course, passes all the various pre-quals) ethnic/racial origin really does not make a relevant consideration.
I think Allan makes a good point in that race is often a shorthand for class.
I think that is the real prejudice.
Its just that Americans don’t believe in class and do believe in race.
As a white broker, I know I am just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.
Though, sometimes “temporarily” feels more like “chronically”.

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