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Full disclosure: I don’t believe the “fat finger” cover story for today’s stock market panic. That was obviously floated to con the public, is absurd on its face, and doesn’t account for the snap back at 1000 down or stress leading up to the event in other financial markets.

I agree with you there. One fat finger won’t take down multiple stocks simultaneously. It could be someone attacking trailing stops on stocks in order to cause a ‘cascade’. This is done by looking at all the listed trailing stops.. and if there enough, placing a buy order to cover, several places below the trailing stops and then shorting hard to drive down the stock and trigger the stops to cause further stock sales.

It could also have been ‘automated’ transactions.. but any investment firm that puts all their triggers at the same relative price, could be setting themselves up for a loss. The only way they could profit is by ‘convincing’ someone else to part with their stocks at yet a lower price.

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Full disclosure: I don’t believe the “fat finger” cover story for today’s stock market panic. That was obviously floated to con the public, is absurd on its face, and doesn’t account for the snap back at 1000 down or stress leading up to the event in other financial markets.

I agree with you there. One fat finger won’t take down multiple stocks simultaneously. It could be someone attacking trailing stops on stocks in order to cause a ‘cascade’. This is done by looking at all the listed trailing stops.. and if there enough, placing a buy order to cover, several places below the trailing stops and then shorting hard to drive down the stock and trigger the stops to cause further stock sales.

It could also have been ‘automated’ transactions.. but any investment firm that puts all their triggers at the same relative price, could be setting themselves up for a loss. The only way they could profit is by ‘convincing’ someone else to part with their stocks at yet a lower price.

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Full disclosure: I don’t believe the “fat finger” cover story for today’s stock market panic. That was obviously floated to con the public, is absurd on its face, and doesn’t account for the snap back at 1000 down or stress leading up to the event in other financial markets.

I agree with you there. One fat finger won’t take down multiple stocks simultaneously. It could be someone attacking trailing stops on stocks in order to cause a ‘cascade’. This is done by looking at all the listed trailing stops.. and if there enough, placing a buy order to cover, several places below the trailing stops and then shorting hard to drive down the stock and trigger the stops to cause further stock sales.

It could also have been ‘automated’ transactions.. but any investment firm that puts all their triggers at the same relative price, could be setting themselves up for a loss. The only way they could profit is by ‘convincing’ someone else to part with their stocks at yet a lower price.

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Beyond lame, try incompetent!

Understatement.

The government doesn’t need to look for those documents. They already have them!!

Naive. First, you are assuming that the docs may be valid. You also forgot.. it was a Pakistani passport, not a US passport. The passport will contain stamps from other countries visited. This info is not necessarily recorded on entry into the US. To get the academic records, the authorities have to know which universities attended and then has to get a warrant or subpoena for the records.

The greeting cards would show who he might be associated with/lines of communication. Last time I checked, our mail is not monitored.

Don’t forget, this guy was on the no-fly-list.. how many times did he take a flight while on that list? When they caught him, they pulled him off of a flight that had already pushed off from the terminal.

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Beyond lame, try incompetent!

Understatement.

The government doesn’t need to look for those documents. They already have them!!

Naive. First, you are assuming that the docs may be valid. You also forgot.. it was a Pakistani passport, not a US passport. The passport will contain stamps from other countries visited. This info is not necessarily recorded on entry into the US. To get the academic records, the authorities have to know which universities attended and then has to get a warrant or subpoena for the records.

The greeting cards would show who he might be associated with/lines of communication. Last time I checked, our mail is not monitored.

Don’t forget, this guy was on the no-fly-list.. how many times did he take a flight while on that list? When they caught him, they pulled him off of a flight that had already pushed off from the terminal.

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Beyond lame, try incompetent!

Understatement.

The government doesn’t need to look for those documents. They already have them!!

Naive. First, you are assuming that the docs may be valid. You also forgot.. it was a Pakistani passport, not a US passport. The passport will contain stamps from other countries visited. This info is not necessarily recorded on entry into the US. To get the academic records, the authorities have to know which universities attended and then has to get a warrant or subpoena for the records.

The greeting cards would show who he might be associated with/lines of communication. Last time I checked, our mail is not monitored.

Don’t forget, this guy was on the no-fly-list.. how many times did he take a flight while on that list? When they caught him, they pulled him off of a flight that had already pushed off from the terminal.

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Beyond lame, try incompetent!

Understatement.

The government doesn’t need to look for those documents. They already have them!!

Naive. First, you are assuming that the docs may be valid. You also forgot.. it was a Pakistani passport, not a US passport. The passport will contain stamps from other countries visited. This info is not necessarily recorded on entry into the US. To get the academic records, the authorities have to know which universities attended and then has to get a warrant or subpoena for the records.

The greeting cards would show who he might be associated with/lines of communication. Last time I checked, our mail is not monitored.

Don’t forget, this guy was on the no-fly-list.. how many times did he take a flight while on that list? When they caught him, they pulled him off of a flight that had already pushed off from the terminal.

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Beyond lame, try incompetent!

Understatement.

The government doesn’t need to look for those documents. They already have them!!

Naive. First, you are assuming that the docs may be valid. You also forgot.. it was a Pakistani passport, not a US passport. The passport will contain stamps from other countries visited. This info is not necessarily recorded on entry into the US. To get the academic records, the authorities have to know which universities attended and then has to get a warrant or subpoena for the records.

The greeting cards would show who he might be associated with/lines of communication. Last time I checked, our mail is not monitored.

Don’t forget, this guy was on the no-fly-list.. how many times did he take a flight while on that list? When they caught him, they pulled him off of a flight that had already pushed off from the terminal.

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You could make a bar that is a bit more than a ‘bar’. Place a large flat steel grill in the center.. almost Benihana’s style (Mongolian grill) place cold plates or recessed cold well(booster box) to either side.

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You could make a bar that is a bit more than a ‘bar’. Place a large flat steel grill in the center.. almost Benihana’s style (Mongolian grill) place cold plates or recessed cold well(booster box) to either side.

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You could make a bar that is a bit more than a ‘bar’. Place a large flat steel grill in the center.. almost Benihana’s style (Mongolian grill) place cold plates or recessed cold well(booster box) to either side.

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You could make a bar that is a bit more than a ‘bar’. Place a large flat steel grill in the center.. almost Benihana’s style (Mongolian grill) place cold plates or recessed cold well(booster box) to either side.

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You could make a bar that is a bit more than a ‘bar’. Place a large flat steel grill in the center.. almost Benihana’s style (Mongolian grill) place cold plates or recessed cold well(booster box) to either side.

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I vote #2. It was ‘impolite’ on the part of the teenage son.

1) What if it wasn’t the teenage son of the person checking out at the grocery store? What if it was a friend/associate of the person at the checkout? Would that change your assessment?
2) What if the teenage son or associate brought a whole basket back to checkout as separate? Would that change your assessment? – we do check line length to see which one to wait in @ checkout (unless you are trying to scope someone out…)

Considering some of the wierdo’s out there, I don’t have too much of a problem with a son/daughter piggy-backing on the parent’s checkout, it may be safer for them depending upon their age. That said, if the parent told them to go to the end of the line, it would have taught the son/daughter some important lessons;
1) Be considerate of those waiting in line.
2) Don’t make last minute decisions (or decisions in general) and expect everyone else to compensate for it.

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I vote #2. It was ‘impolite’ on the part of the teenage son.

1) What if it wasn’t the teenage son of the person checking out at the grocery store? What if it was a friend/associate of the person at the checkout? Would that change your assessment?
2) What if the teenage son or associate brought a whole basket back to checkout as separate? Would that change your assessment? – we do check line length to see which one to wait in @ checkout (unless you are trying to scope someone out…)

Considering some of the wierdo’s out there, I don’t have too much of a problem with a son/daughter piggy-backing on the parent’s checkout, it may be safer for them depending upon their age. That said, if the parent told them to go to the end of the line, it would have taught the son/daughter some important lessons;
1) Be considerate of those waiting in line.
2) Don’t make last minute decisions (or decisions in general) and expect everyone else to compensate for it.

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