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[quote CONCHO]Puh-leeze. The point is that these type of low-level scammers don’t do the same amount of damage as the ones at the top. AND THE PERSON IN THE STORY HAS BEEN CAUGHT AND WILL GO TO JAIL. Meanwhile the bankster boys are sailing to the Mediterranean on their megayachts, banging supermodels and snorting cocaine WITH YOUR 401K MONEY. Entiende?[/quote]

Again.. who are these ‘banksters’ that you are talking about? Name the names! It is easy to create a ‘straw man’ to then attack to justify your position. Its called a straw man argument. Lets see if you can make the straw man real.. so Puh-leeze right back to you!!

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[quote CONCHO]Puh-leeze. The point is that these type of low-level scammers don’t do the same amount of damage as the ones at the top. AND THE PERSON IN THE STORY HAS BEEN CAUGHT AND WILL GO TO JAIL. Meanwhile the bankster boys are sailing to the Mediterranean on their megayachts, banging supermodels and snorting cocaine WITH YOUR 401K MONEY. Entiende?[/quote]

Again.. who are these ‘banksters’ that you are talking about? Name the names! It is easy to create a ‘straw man’ to then attack to justify your position. Its called a straw man argument. Lets see if you can make the straw man real.. so Puh-leeze right back to you!!

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[quote CONCHO]Puh-leeze. The point is that these type of low-level scammers don’t do the same amount of damage as the ones at the top. AND THE PERSON IN THE STORY HAS BEEN CAUGHT AND WILL GO TO JAIL. Meanwhile the bankster boys are sailing to the Mediterranean on their megayachts, banging supermodels and snorting cocaine WITH YOUR 401K MONEY. Entiende?[/quote]

Again.. who are these ‘banksters’ that you are talking about? Name the names! It is easy to create a ‘straw man’ to then attack to justify your position. Its called a straw man argument. Lets see if you can make the straw man real.. so Puh-leeze right back to you!!

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The bankster boys have gotten away with kazillions and bought Long Island getaways, megayachts, etc… and we’re worried about some ghetto welfare scammers. Yeah, that’s why the country’s going down the tubes.
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So that makes it right for people to commit welfare fraud? One wrong makes another wrong ok to commit?

Considering that a Maserati was involved, I don’t think we are dealing with ‘ghetto welfare scammers’. With multiple vehicles, home etc.. they seem pretty well off.

So just how did bankster boys get away with all that you claim, and which bankster boys are you talking about? Remember, Bernard Madoff is not a ‘bankster’.. he ran an investment fund.

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[quote CONCHO]
The bankster boys have gotten away with kazillions and bought Long Island getaways, megayachts, etc… and we’re worried about some ghetto welfare scammers. Yeah, that’s why the country’s going down the tubes.
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So that makes it right for people to commit welfare fraud? One wrong makes another wrong ok to commit?

Considering that a Maserati was involved, I don’t think we are dealing with ‘ghetto welfare scammers’. With multiple vehicles, home etc.. they seem pretty well off.

So just how did bankster boys get away with all that you claim, and which bankster boys are you talking about? Remember, Bernard Madoff is not a ‘bankster’.. he ran an investment fund.

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[quote CONCHO]
The bankster boys have gotten away with kazillions and bought Long Island getaways, megayachts, etc… and we’re worried about some ghetto welfare scammers. Yeah, that’s why the country’s going down the tubes.
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So that makes it right for people to commit welfare fraud? One wrong makes another wrong ok to commit?

Considering that a Maserati was involved, I don’t think we are dealing with ‘ghetto welfare scammers’. With multiple vehicles, home etc.. they seem pretty well off.

So just how did bankster boys get away with all that you claim, and which bankster boys are you talking about? Remember, Bernard Madoff is not a ‘bankster’.. he ran an investment fund.

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[quote CONCHO]
The bankster boys have gotten away with kazillions and bought Long Island getaways, megayachts, etc… and we’re worried about some ghetto welfare scammers. Yeah, that’s why the country’s going down the tubes.
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So that makes it right for people to commit welfare fraud? One wrong makes another wrong ok to commit?

Considering that a Maserati was involved, I don’t think we are dealing with ‘ghetto welfare scammers’. With multiple vehicles, home etc.. they seem pretty well off.

So just how did bankster boys get away with all that you claim, and which bankster boys are you talking about? Remember, Bernard Madoff is not a ‘bankster’.. he ran an investment fund.

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[quote CONCHO]
The bankster boys have gotten away with kazillions and bought Long Island getaways, megayachts, etc… and we’re worried about some ghetto welfare scammers. Yeah, that’s why the country’s going down the tubes.
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So that makes it right for people to commit welfare fraud? One wrong makes another wrong ok to commit?

Considering that a Maserati was involved, I don’t think we are dealing with ‘ghetto welfare scammers’. With multiple vehicles, home etc.. they seem pretty well off.

So just how did bankster boys get away with all that you claim, and which bankster boys are you talking about? Remember, Bernard Madoff is not a ‘bankster’.. he ran an investment fund.

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If Obama, were a thug, as Zeit claims, then he would have all the Democrats fall neatly in line behind him.

Actually, he did a fairly good job of that on the health bill, with the assistance of Pelosi. I think now, the other Democrats are re-thinking what happened and are realizing that their ‘job’ may be in jeopardy as a result of their vote.

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If Obama, were a thug, as Zeit claims, then he would have all the Democrats fall neatly in line behind him.

Actually, he did a fairly good job of that on the health bill, with the assistance of Pelosi. I think now, the other Democrats are re-thinking what happened and are realizing that their ‘job’ may be in jeopardy as a result of their vote.

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If Obama, were a thug, as Zeit claims, then he would have all the Democrats fall neatly in line behind him.

Actually, he did a fairly good job of that on the health bill, with the assistance of Pelosi. I think now, the other Democrats are re-thinking what happened and are realizing that their ‘job’ may be in jeopardy as a result of their vote.

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If Obama, were a thug, as Zeit claims, then he would have all the Democrats fall neatly in line behind him.

Actually, he did a fairly good job of that on the health bill, with the assistance of Pelosi. I think now, the other Democrats are re-thinking what happened and are realizing that their ‘job’ may be in jeopardy as a result of their vote.

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If Obama, were a thug, as Zeit claims, then he would have all the Democrats fall neatly in line behind him.

Actually, he did a fairly good job of that on the health bill, with the assistance of Pelosi. I think now, the other Democrats are re-thinking what happened and are realizing that their ‘job’ may be in jeopardy as a result of their vote.

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Now this really chafes my hide.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/29/us.gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Particularly the paragraph:

Suttles and other officials said that the “top kill” attempt to stop the flow did so — but only as long as they were pumping. When the pumping stopped, the oil resumed its escape.

Once you get the flow killed by pumping, you should start putting more viscous material in followed by concrete until you can’t pump it. You don’t stand back and admire your handiwork, particularly at those well-head pressures. These pressures can displace material unless it is bonds to the drill hole.

It seems to strengthen my opinion of BPs approach. They really don’t want to kill the well – they would have to write off the $Ms that they spent on drilling the hole. Instead, they want to put some sort of ‘cover’ that allows them to capture the oil. Their ‘new’ approach looks just like the previous ‘caps’ they tried, but with a different name: “lower marine riser package”.

Suttles said the lower marine riser package “should be able to capture most of the oil” that has fed what is now the largest oil spill in U.S. history, but he cautioned that the new cap will not provide a “tight mechanical seal.”

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Now this really chafes my hide.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/29/us.gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Particularly the paragraph:

Suttles and other officials said that the “top kill” attempt to stop the flow did so — but only as long as they were pumping. When the pumping stopped, the oil resumed its escape.

Once you get the flow killed by pumping, you should start putting more viscous material in followed by concrete until you can’t pump it. You don’t stand back and admire your handiwork, particularly at those well-head pressures. These pressures can displace material unless it is bonds to the drill hole.

It seems to strengthen my opinion of BPs approach. They really don’t want to kill the well – they would have to write off the $Ms that they spent on drilling the hole. Instead, they want to put some sort of ‘cover’ that allows them to capture the oil. Their ‘new’ approach looks just like the previous ‘caps’ they tried, but with a different name: “lower marine riser package”.

Suttles said the lower marine riser package “should be able to capture most of the oil” that has fed what is now the largest oil spill in U.S. history, but he cautioned that the new cap will not provide a “tight mechanical seal.”

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