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Participant[quote davelj]
Sounds like there are also some tax issues. Seems like a better idea might be just to “federalize” the civil union (that is, remove it as a state issue) and give it the same benefits that married couples have. I see no reason why a civil union shouldn’t hold the same rights as a marriage.
[/quote]This is definitely something I would agree on. The concept of getting a ‘license’ from the state to marry, is mixing a religious concept with the state (there is supposed to be a separation of church and state). Civil union is a legal term while marriage is religious(that has legal connotations)..
Besides, if homosexuals want a ‘marriage’.. they could then create their own church.. ie. Church of the Latter-day Gays.. whatever floats their boat. This way they are also free of the ‘mainstream’ church’s condemnation of homosexuality.
[quote flu]
The only issue with that is then pretty soon you’ll get folks challenging whether civil union must be with another person…. 🙂 (….No really, I bond more with my PC than my spouse…..) :..
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Or the PETA group might push it… civil rights for animals and then civil unions? (Ick, the mental imagery)[quote flu]
Not necessarily.. I’ve learned that some of the most beautiful women are also the ones not interested in men, and if you go to some places like in Thailand, some of the beautiful “women” aren’t women at all 🙂
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That reminds me of a picture my sister took when she visited a ladyboy(Kathoey) contest out of curiosity. One of them really looked like a female…(wanna walk on the wild side?). Some of the ladyboys get breast implants to further their looks.. though not always the sex change.[quote briansd1]
Invasion of the Country Snatchers
Same-sex marriage is legal in Mexico and Canada, which makes America the straight meat in a big gay sandwich. (03:04)
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I don’t know if you meant to word it that way or not.. ;-P..I’ve been working long hours (50% OT).. I think I am getting slap-happy already.
Participant[quote davelj]
Sounds like there are also some tax issues. Seems like a better idea might be just to “federalize” the civil union (that is, remove it as a state issue) and give it the same benefits that married couples have. I see no reason why a civil union shouldn’t hold the same rights as a marriage.
[/quote]This is definitely something I would agree on. The concept of getting a ‘license’ from the state to marry, is mixing a religious concept with the state (there is supposed to be a separation of church and state). Civil union is a legal term while marriage is religious(that has legal connotations)..
Besides, if homosexuals want a ‘marriage’.. they could then create their own church.. ie. Church of the Latter-day Gays.. whatever floats their boat. This way they are also free of the ‘mainstream’ church’s condemnation of homosexuality.
[quote flu]
The only issue with that is then pretty soon you’ll get folks challenging whether civil union must be with another person…. 🙂 (….No really, I bond more with my PC than my spouse…..) :..
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Or the PETA group might push it… civil rights for animals and then civil unions? (Ick, the mental imagery)[quote flu]
Not necessarily.. I’ve learned that some of the most beautiful women are also the ones not interested in men, and if you go to some places like in Thailand, some of the beautiful “women” aren’t women at all 🙂
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That reminds me of a picture my sister took when she visited a ladyboy(Kathoey) contest out of curiosity. One of them really looked like a female…(wanna walk on the wild side?). Some of the ladyboys get breast implants to further their looks.. though not always the sex change.[quote briansd1]
Invasion of the Country Snatchers
Same-sex marriage is legal in Mexico and Canada, which makes America the straight meat in a big gay sandwich. (03:04)
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I don’t know if you meant to word it that way or not.. ;-P..I’ve been working long hours (50% OT).. I think I am getting slap-happy already.
August 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM in reply to: Shiller: US could likely to fall into deflationary spiral ala Japan #589419ParticipantThere is no chance that the money injected by the Fed will find its way into the real economy, and no chance that it will ignite a wage/price spiral in an era of credit contraction and rising unemployment.
Depends upon how it is done. If the money is injected through the standard lending system while that system has fear of defaults, it will not make it into the economy, or at least not that much of it.
The fed has also the ability to spend that money directly on government projects. This will put the money into the economy directly.
August 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM in reply to: Shiller: US could likely to fall into deflationary spiral ala Japan #589513ParticipantThere is no chance that the money injected by the Fed will find its way into the real economy, and no chance that it will ignite a wage/price spiral in an era of credit contraction and rising unemployment.
Depends upon how it is done. If the money is injected through the standard lending system while that system has fear of defaults, it will not make it into the economy, or at least not that much of it.
The fed has also the ability to spend that money directly on government projects. This will put the money into the economy directly.
August 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM in reply to: Shiller: US could likely to fall into deflationary spiral ala Japan #590048ParticipantThere is no chance that the money injected by the Fed will find its way into the real economy, and no chance that it will ignite a wage/price spiral in an era of credit contraction and rising unemployment.
Depends upon how it is done. If the money is injected through the standard lending system while that system has fear of defaults, it will not make it into the economy, or at least not that much of it.
The fed has also the ability to spend that money directly on government projects. This will put the money into the economy directly.
August 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM in reply to: Shiller: US could likely to fall into deflationary spiral ala Japan #590156ParticipantThere is no chance that the money injected by the Fed will find its way into the real economy, and no chance that it will ignite a wage/price spiral in an era of credit contraction and rising unemployment.
Depends upon how it is done. If the money is injected through the standard lending system while that system has fear of defaults, it will not make it into the economy, or at least not that much of it.
The fed has also the ability to spend that money directly on government projects. This will put the money into the economy directly.
August 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM in reply to: Shiller: US could likely to fall into deflationary spiral ala Japan #590465ParticipantThere is no chance that the money injected by the Fed will find its way into the real economy, and no chance that it will ignite a wage/price spiral in an era of credit contraction and rising unemployment.
Depends upon how it is done. If the money is injected through the standard lending system while that system has fear of defaults, it will not make it into the economy, or at least not that much of it.
The fed has also the ability to spend that money directly on government projects. This will put the money into the economy directly.
August 11, 2010 at 12:31 PM in reply to: Shiller: US could likely to fall into deflationary spiral ala Japan #589409Participant[quote Rich Toscano]
We’ve had a couple months of falling headline (but not core) CPI, but as far as long term prospects are concerned nothing has changed — so the sudden fascination with deflation, and the rehashing of the same old arguments, is pretty puzzling to me and sometimes I get a bit impatient with the topic. Nothing personal!
[/quote]I don’t pay too much attention to the current ‘headlines’. I have noticed a pattern of ‘herding’ the ‘Joe6Pack investor’ back and forth (creates churn for the investment firms, as well as opportunities for short term traders). A lot of the investment ‘market’ has turned more into speculation as opposed to taking the time required for investment. As a result – headlines alternate between inflation worries and deflation worries.
August 11, 2010 at 12:31 PM in reply to: Shiller: US could likely to fall into deflationary spiral ala Japan #589503Participant[quote Rich Toscano]
We’ve had a couple months of falling headline (but not core) CPI, but as far as long term prospects are concerned nothing has changed — so the sudden fascination with deflation, and the rehashing of the same old arguments, is pretty puzzling to me and sometimes I get a bit impatient with the topic. Nothing personal!
[/quote]I don’t pay too much attention to the current ‘headlines’. I have noticed a pattern of ‘herding’ the ‘Joe6Pack investor’ back and forth (creates churn for the investment firms, as well as opportunities for short term traders). A lot of the investment ‘market’ has turned more into speculation as opposed to taking the time required for investment. As a result – headlines alternate between inflation worries and deflation worries.
August 11, 2010 at 12:31 PM in reply to: Shiller: US could likely to fall into deflationary spiral ala Japan #590038Participant[quote Rich Toscano]
We’ve had a couple months of falling headline (but not core) CPI, but as far as long term prospects are concerned nothing has changed — so the sudden fascination with deflation, and the rehashing of the same old arguments, is pretty puzzling to me and sometimes I get a bit impatient with the topic. Nothing personal!
[/quote]I don’t pay too much attention to the current ‘headlines’. I have noticed a pattern of ‘herding’ the ‘Joe6Pack investor’ back and forth (creates churn for the investment firms, as well as opportunities for short term traders). A lot of the investment ‘market’ has turned more into speculation as opposed to taking the time required for investment. As a result – headlines alternate between inflation worries and deflation worries.
August 11, 2010 at 12:31 PM in reply to: Shiller: US could likely to fall into deflationary spiral ala Japan #590146Participant[quote Rich Toscano]
We’ve had a couple months of falling headline (but not core) CPI, but as far as long term prospects are concerned nothing has changed — so the sudden fascination with deflation, and the rehashing of the same old arguments, is pretty puzzling to me and sometimes I get a bit impatient with the topic. Nothing personal!
[/quote]I don’t pay too much attention to the current ‘headlines’. I have noticed a pattern of ‘herding’ the ‘Joe6Pack investor’ back and forth (creates churn for the investment firms, as well as opportunities for short term traders). A lot of the investment ‘market’ has turned more into speculation as opposed to taking the time required for investment. As a result – headlines alternate between inflation worries and deflation worries.
August 11, 2010 at 12:31 PM in reply to: Shiller: US could likely to fall into deflationary spiral ala Japan #590455Participant[quote Rich Toscano]
We’ve had a couple months of falling headline (but not core) CPI, but as far as long term prospects are concerned nothing has changed — so the sudden fascination with deflation, and the rehashing of the same old arguments, is pretty puzzling to me and sometimes I get a bit impatient with the topic. Nothing personal!
[/quote]I don’t pay too much attention to the current ‘headlines’. I have noticed a pattern of ‘herding’ the ‘Joe6Pack investor’ back and forth (creates churn for the investment firms, as well as opportunities for short term traders). A lot of the investment ‘market’ has turned more into speculation as opposed to taking the time required for investment. As a result – headlines alternate between inflation worries and deflation worries.
Participant[quote SK in CV]
….Total income is $380,000. New tax applies on all investment income of $105,000.….Tax does not apply because it’s under the $250,000 threshold.
….Tax applies on the lesser of investment income of $105,000 or total income less the threshold amount. ($305,000 less $250,000 or $55,000) Tax would only apply on the $55,000.
[/quote]Looks like the tax is oriented againstthe savers/investors at a benifit to the debtors and defaulters. Not that all the ‘bailouts’ and loan principal renegotiations were not enough. –SNAFU..
Participant[quote SK in CV]
….Total income is $380,000. New tax applies on all investment income of $105,000.….Tax does not apply because it’s under the $250,000 threshold.
….Tax applies on the lesser of investment income of $105,000 or total income less the threshold amount. ($305,000 less $250,000 or $55,000) Tax would only apply on the $55,000.
[/quote]Looks like the tax is oriented againstthe savers/investors at a benifit to the debtors and defaulters. Not that all the ‘bailouts’ and loan principal renegotiations were not enough. –SNAFU..
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